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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:22 PM
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If there is an Independent run by Gore wouldn't that divide the
Democratic vote?

If Gore does run I hope he runs as a dem.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:23 PM
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1. There won't be. It was RW chicanery speculation
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:26 PM
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2. You would have to wonder what he would gain by running Indy.The only thing I can speculate would be
the idea that he would gain more swing votes than he might as a Dem.

Either way I think he would do very well, except by those folks for whom label is all they care about.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:33 PM
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3. That story came out in the RW mag that peddled the Obama madrassa and
Hillary put it out story.

It is bogus.

Gore would only run as a Dem if he ever chose to run again.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:39 PM
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4. That story was circulated by the Moonie Times publishing group.
Very right wing, and long standing role in pushing bs as news that then gets picked up by the rw media echo chamber as "legitimate news." Not a real story - a propoganda (from the right) effort to create divisiveness and discord - and to distract from the disasterous news cycle for bushco and the GOP in general.

Lets not give it any more "air" time. It is bogus. It is demeaning to Gore. He deserves better.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:42 PM
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5. It'd destroy DU probably
Or come close anyway.

And not just us for that matter - how would MoveOn or DailyKos react to that?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:03 PM
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6. It would certainly make the election interesting.
The more choices the better.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:28 PM
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7. It sure would, and I could back that all the way
Show the world he really is his own man outside of the corporate benefactor backslapping sideshow that Washington DC has become by standing up to the status quo and running it his way by throwing caution to the wind. It would turn this boring predictable CORRUPT system on its ear. I would love it and support him with all of my heart!
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:35 PM
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9. Stop and think a minute
The result of Al Gore running as an independent would be a Republican victory.

You may think Gore is foolish or selfish enough to do that. I don't.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:41 PM
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10. I'm confused
Aren't you the one always berating any person here who wants Gore to run. If I recall correctly it's detracting from his message and he's more effective at saving the world if he's not POTUS. Yet you'd love it if he ran as an Independent and support him with all your heart?

:shrug:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:03 PM
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15. I would support changing this TOXIC system
I never said I wouldn't want him to run if he could do it HIS WAY outside THIS SYSTEM if he really wanted it. Doing it his way would give him time to concentrate on this crisis as he chooses to without having to conform to the status quo way of doing things, especially regarding wasting money on 30 second ads. I have been agreeing with his own words regarding this system for months now because he is right about it. I don't think he will run, but if he made a bold move like that to challenge it all in a revolutionary way of course I would support him on that. Wouldn't you? To go back to the crap we have now, well, if he wanted it I would support him but I would also be disappointed because I don't think it would allow him to do it the way he wants to do it. And I don't berate people so you must have me confused with someone else and there's no confusion here. Do I still believe he can accomplish more outside this toxic system regarding this crisis? Yes, which is why I would also support him running outside this system where he wouldn't have to be detracted because it could be his platform. But again, I don't think he will run, and that's OK with me too.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:28 AM
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28. I need you to clear up a couple of areas for me still
"And I don't berate people so you must have me confused with someone else and there's no confusion here." I'm sorry, this sentence doesn't make sense to me.

Why could he not run on his own platform in a revolutionary way as a Democrat? Wouldn't that go further toward repairing our broken system then if he were to simply split the non-Republican votes between two candidates?
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:05 PM
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So after all your kvetching about how if Gore runs his environmental message is lost etc.
Edited on Mon Apr-02-07 09:13 PM by Reterr
You are saying you are basically a Green :eyes:....

I cannot think of anything more pointless than for Gore to run as an independent. I could kind of buy the points you used to make earlier about how his time would be spent less effectively if he went back to politics and his environmental message were to be diluted. I didn't agree because I think there are few positions from which he could do more for the environment than as the POTUS, but still I could at least understand the point you were making. But, now to claim that its ok if he does run as long as he has no hope in hell of actually winning...wow... just wow :eyes:.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:23 PM
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18. It's called being a free thinking American
Edited on Mon Apr-02-07 09:26 PM by RestoreGore
Well, now we know what many of those who praise him would really think of his abilities, and you missed the point. And the only thing I am is a free thinking American who believes in Democratic principles, and if Mr. Gore believed the ONLY way to be able to run if he truly wished to without being a part of the toxic system was to do so as a free man unencumbered by any party rhetoric I would support it. Will it actually happen? More than likely not because all those Democrats now in love with him would turn on him once again showing their true colors and his attempt to truly run on ideas and principles would be diverted anyway. So in reality I think he will stay doing what he is doing now because he is making progress on it as a great statesman and can still remain a part of the political landscape in trying to change it. I really don't see what is so hard to understand about that opinion, but I suppose when you only think on a partisan political level rather than a level that goes beyond it it is hard to understand.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:04 AM
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21. Don't argue.
RS is The One And Only Keeper Of Al Gore's Flame Of Truth.

The One And Only...
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:39 AM
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26. Its creepy
:scared:

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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:34 PM
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8. I'll take a decent president over an interesting election any day.
If Al Gore ran as an independent, he would have no chance of winning, and he'd massively damage the chances of the Democratic candidate, giving us four more years of Republicans in the White House.

I don't think that's a good trade for a little interest.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:48 PM
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11. That's rubbish
To think he can only win as a status quo Democrat is putting party before the man and speaks volumes about what you (in general) really think of him. People I talk to every day are disillusioned with government REGARDLESS of party. This just may be the time for a man of his stature to make a bold move if he really wants it without having to be a part of the toxic system that is keeping him out. I reiterate my comment that if he ever did I would support him with my whole heart because of the man he is, and I think if he did it the right way he could blow them all out of the water. Of course, we don't live in a country that really appreciates such courage, and that too is sad.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:52 PM
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12. I note that in your final sentence you come close to admitting that you are wrong.

Gore *can't* win as anything other than a Democrat, whether or not you and the "people you speak to every day" support him.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:05 PM
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16. Not wrong, just realistic
But then, you may be right since people in this country haven't gotten above the level of seeing things in black and white.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 11:48 PM
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19. Perhaps.
Perhaps not.

But, having been through a lot of elections, each won by one of the two major parties, and seeing the country deteriorate, I think it might be a good thing to end the stranglehold of the two party system.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:56 PM
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13. This is a non-story
Published by Insight Magazine, owned by Sun Myung Moon (of the Moonie Times). When have they gotten anything right?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:59 PM
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14. Gore is a Democrat not an Independent
If he chooses to run he'll do so as a Democrat. He's a realist, there is no way, except in some Republicans dreams, he would divide the vote and risk America being stuck under GOP rule for four more years.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:06 PM
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17. April Fools Day is over.
Don't fall for the rw sludge spewing out of the fecal-stained mouths at FUX Nooze, et al.



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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:07 AM
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22. kay...I won't do it anymore nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:11 AM
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23. Thanks!!
:D :hi:



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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 01:38 AM
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27. Welcome
Me loves Swamp Rat
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 11:55 PM
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20. Gore is not going to hand the election to the republiks!! n/t
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:13 AM
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24. He would never run as an Independent
That would be turning his back on everything he has worked for and stood for the past 4 decades.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:20 AM
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25. Gore knows better than most what the Bush presidency has wrought on the environment
I don't see him handing those rats another presidency...
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