Swine Flu Cure ... Cannabis!

[Danascot]

Good thing today isn't April 1

Cannabis Science Inc., an emerging pharmaceutical cannabis company, reported today on the current state of development of its whole-cannabis lozenge in response to Homeland Security Administration Secretary Janet Napolitano's declaration of a public health emergency to deal with the emerging Swine Flu pandemic. The Company's non-toxic lozenge has properties that could alleviate many of the symptoms and harmful effects of the H5N1 bird flu and H1N1 swine flu viruses, and has offered its assistance to HSA today in a letter to Secretary Napolitano. The Company has offered to produce up to 1 million doses of its whole-cannabis lozenge, and provide them to HSA for distribution at cost.

Cannabis Science Inc., President & CEO, Steven W. Kubby said, "We have the science and preliminary anecdotal results confirming the anti-inflammatory properties of our new lozenges and indicating they may present an effective and non-toxic treatment for minimizing the symptoms and harm from influenza infections. Our lozenges appear to down-regulate the body's excessive inflammatory response to the influenza virus, which could reduce the deadly consequences of an infection into something that is more like a common cold. Because of my cancer and diminished auto-immune functions, even common influenza is a deadly threat, and I've had incredible symptomatic relief with the lozenge."

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/cannabis-science-inc-reports-prospective/story.aspx?guid={03D1AE62-679E-460D-988F-EE0966A80445}&dist=msr_2

[babylonsister]

1. Wow. Argue that, or try it. There ya go. nt

[realisticphish]

2. this may be totally legit

and I'm really not trying to cast any shadows on it


But isn't this totally like something a stoner would come up with? "Dude, what if, like, weed could CURE DISEASE"

[HughMoran]

9. You're not casting any asparaguses on this

:rofl:

:smoke:

[crikkett]

40. Where have you been? News stories about cannabis curing, treating and preventing disease

have been all over the place for several years.

Your flippant derision of "stoners" makes you look pretty ignorant.

[realisticphish]

60. ignorant implies I haven't known any stoners

but, in fact, I know quite a few, and have partaken in the past.

And, it does in fact sound like something a stoner would claim. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT ISN'T TRUE, which is what I friggin said in my post.

Thanks for going straight for the personal attacks!

[seemslikeadream]

3. NORML National Marijuana Forum Part B - Dr. Robert Melamede - CU Boulder 2009

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x302338

NORML National Marijuana Forum Part C - Hemp - CU Boulder 2009
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x302348


NORML National Marijuana Forum Part D - Prohibition - CU Boulder 2009
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x302354



Rick Simpson's CRUSH CANCER WITH HEMP AND TRUTH
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x303575

[Rhiannon12866]

4. K&R. Will the panic over a possible pandemic change attitudes about using cannabis-based medicine?

I think not, since the RW opposes even prescribing medical marijuana to ameliorate the suffering of cancer patients. :grr:

[Occam Bandage]

8. Why would it?

A pack of potheads said that they haven't tested it or anything, but they bet pot would make something better. This happens, oh, I don't know, about every single day.

[Rhiannon12866]

23. IMO, the best way to eliminate fear over marijuana is to demonstrate its medicinal properties.

If people are frightened enough, or truly suffering, they'll turn to anything, even if they have some sort of "moral" objection to it... If it was to become regulated and taxed, helping the economy and cleaning up border violence would be one added benefit. ;) :-)

[Occam Bandage]

25. Sure. I'm well aware that "medical marijuana" is a brilliant trojan horse.

But in this particular case, there are no proven medicinal properties. There's just what appears to be some guy who runs a pot shop with an Internet connection firing off press releases claiming without any studies, research, or data that cannabis might cure the flu.

[Rhiannon12866]

27. However, it has been proven to have medical benefits in some instances.

Reducing nausea and improving the appetite during chemo is one of them. The unfortunate thing is that it won't make piles of money for the pharmaceutical companies, like other natural substances, so nobody's willing to back studies that could prove its benefits and achieve widespread use among people who could use it. :-(

[Occam Bandage]

28. Sure it would make money for 'em.

There are literally thousands of plants that have medicinal qualities. That's where most drugs come from.

When you have a headache, do you go outside to your willow tree, strip off some of the bark, then take it inside, stick the bark in some boiling water, and brew up a tasty tea containing all the precursor ingredients of aspirin? No, you take a pill.

If cannabis were legalized, drug companies would quickly find a way to slightly change some of its molecular properties so as to concentrate an effect or remove a useless few chemicals, put it in a pill or an inhaler spray, patent it, and make a killing. Time and again, patients have proven that they will buy whatever their doctors tell them is best, and time and again, doctors have proven that they will claim the latest offering from big pharma is the best, regardless of its cost-to-benefit ratio.

[Rhiannon12866]

29. So why haven't they done it?

There's certainly has been enough public discussion about it. :-(

Another substance is DMSO, dimethyl sulfoxide. It's a chemical solvent that my doctor has used to eliminate pain in arthritis patients. I've seen it work, took my grandmother to him. It was a Mike Wallace story on "60 Minutes" in 1980 (I read the transcript), but it never took off because it is inexpensive, so the drug companies weren't interested. Also, it has an odor and leaves an aftertaste for anyone that's given it, so a double blind study is impossible. :-(

[EOTE]

51. You have heard of Marinol, right?

The problem is, it's not as effective as smoking and while cannabis taken in other ways like smoking, vaporizers, and baked goods fights nausea while Marinol actually tends to make patients more nauseous. I'm sure big pharma will create new ways of ingesting cannabis, but I doubt any of them will be as effective and side effect free as the ways we have of taking it already.

[Occam Bandage]

53. Yep. Cannabis works in complex ways. It's obvious that synthetic THC isn't nearly as effective

isolated and alone, but that doesn't mean that marijuana must be smoked/ingested exactly as nature created it in order to have any medical effect. We just need to figure out what the exact chemical interactions are.

[EOTE]

55. Or we could just smoke it or eat it in baked goods.

Since that seems to have been working fine too. Funny how big pharma will only advocate for the drug when they can make a profit from it. And even then, everyone who takes it says it's inferior to the real thing. Some progress there.

[Occam Bandage]

57. Nothing wrong with doing that.

And I don't think there's anything wrong about pharma companies developing drugs to make money. As long as our health care system is profit-driven, we don't get new drugs unless there's a profit to cover R&D. Until we have a completely nationalized health care system, that's the way it's gotta be.

[EOTE]

58. I hear what you're saying. And I have nothing against the for-profit system per se.

But it's the hypocrisy that kills me on the issue. Big pharma has been probably the biggest critic of medical MJ that there is, but then they come up with a way to produce it in pill form and they're all for it, even though it's not as effective as the real thing.. When they put the public interest at a very distant 2nd to their annual profits, it makes them look like the vultures they sometimes can be.

[nichomachus]

59. Never made me more nauseous n/t

[femrap]

50. I think a great 'eye opener' would be

a Reality Show! We have two houses side by side. Each house has 6 males (or could be 3 females and 3 males) between the ages of 21 to 25. One house is filled with as much liquor/wine/beer and mixers as anyone could need. The second house has an ounce of weed.

Let the games begin!

This will teach the American stupid people who watch Reality shows what Reality actually is.

Booze = violence, puking, anger.

Weed = turn on some music, turn the volume off of the TV, and order a pizza or four or five while everyone giggles and talks.

[Doremus]

21. I can think of only one scenario in which they would: if they got the flu and it helped THEM.

Then they would find a way to make it available only to themselves.

[Rhiannon12866]

22. Agreed. Or that medical marijuana was the only thing that helped a dying loved one.

I've witnessed this and it sends me over the edge that something that can alleviate suffering would be denied to anyone. What are they afraid of?! That these poor folks will become "addicted?" :crazy: :grr:

[midnight]

5. Cannabis Science to the rescue.

[BlooInBloo]

6. hahahah! Potheads never met an issue they won't exploit.

[Occam Bandage]

11. One of my favorite panels from a webcomic, ever:

From Checkerboard Nightmare, which sadly is no longer active.

[BlooInBloo]

20. hahahah! Nice!

[malaise]

17. Great news

Jamaica is safe :rofl:

[killbotfactory]

30. Those damn, dirty potheads!

It's almost like they think they are humans and can reason and use logic.

[tridim]

36. Legalize it and we'll stop.

:)

[CrownPrinceBandar]

56. Oh snap.

[Cronus Protagonist]

37. What a damn fucking downer you are

I need a joint.

[Occam Bandage]

7. Yes, I'm pretty sure a pot company would claim pot alleviates any and all problems.

No surprise there.

[seemslikeadream]

10. I think you need to do some research

[Occam Bandage]

12. I think Cannabis Science should do some research first.

Then I'll consider reading it. "Well maybe if we take pot, and put it in a lozenge, it'll cure the flu" is stoner bullshitting until they can present some data.

[seemslikeadream]

13. I wasn't referring to "Cannabis Science"

[Occam Bandage]

14. I'm sorry, I assumed you were, since that's what this thread is about. nt

[seemslikeadream]

16. I was referring to the science of cannabis

Filmed by Christopher Pezza of April 19, 2009. World-renowned Medical Cannabis Research expert Dr. Robert Melamede has a Ph.D. in Molecular Biology and Biochemistry from the City University of New York. Dr. Melamede is a retired Chairman of the Biology Department at University of Colorado, Colorado Springs in 2005, where he continues to teach and research cannabinoids, cancer, and DNA repair. Dr. Melamede is recognized as a leading authority on the therapeutic uses of cannabis, and has authored or co-authored dozens of papers on a wide variety of scientific subjects. Dr. Melamede's current focus is on integrating far from equilibrium thermodynamic physics with the biology of life and health and the unique evolutionary role played by the endocannabinoid system in these processes. Dr. Melamede also serves on the Editorial Board of The Journal of the International Association for Cannabis as Medicine, the Scientific Advisory Board of Americans for Safe Access, Sensible Colorado, Scientific Advisor for Cannabis Therapeutics as well as a variety other of state dispensaries and marijuana patient advocacy groups. Dr. Melamede frequently serves as an expert witness in cannabis-related trials. Dr. Melamede's testimony was critical in the recent trial of growers for the Vancouver Island Compassion Society that resulted Canadian Court's ruling that their current medical marijuana laws were unconstitutional.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlndKmlmWSg
part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzNM96rPd90

part3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiLq0-UT9q4

part4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YUmxg5L-sI



NORML National Marijuana Forum Part C - Hemp - CU Boulder 2009

Filmed by Christopher Pezza on April 19, 2009. Until the end of World War II, hemp was a vital resource in the American industrial textile industry. Hemp refers to the non-psychotropic cannabis strains that can produce various products including oil, fabric, and food. This panel will present the history of the American hemp industry, its current legal status, and possible solutions to climate disruption and economic recession.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxOicaEcn2A

partC2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUoow06DShU

partC3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzEo92VZgDo

partC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipfWme2yNvI



NORML National Marijuana Forum Part D - Prohibition - CU Boulder 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJThqi7JIgA

partD2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzxZVOZp42Q

partD3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP06AjN_vw8

partD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzxZVOZp42Q

[Occam Bandage]

18. I was referring to Cannabis Science, Inc., and its press release detailing

the untested and unproven claims it is making about the benefits of its product. No different than a holistic-medicine company claiming that its latest assortment of roots, petals, and leaves probably cures AIDS or something but they're too busy to actually test it.

[Aethertek]

31. Try it you'll like it.

Occam...
Sounds(reads)like you should try some smoke, might mellow that sarcastic ass attitude that comes across in your posts.
Pothead,Stoner etcetera.

No Peace
Kevin~

[seemslikeadream]

33. no doubt

[Aethertek]

34. Tease

Damn if that don't look delicious.

Peace
Kevin~

[Occam Bandage]

45. I have. Not a huge fan.

Utterly immaterial as to whether pot cures the flu.

[SammyWinstonJack]

49. Was thinking the same.

:thumbsup:

[crikkett]

42. you go on and on and say nothing, as if repeating yourself will make that nothing true.

You sound like a freeper.

[Occam Bandage]

47. No, I say a rather particular something:

There's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that pot would do anything whatsoever for the flu. The closest they come to justifying their claim is, "pot can be anti-inflammatory."

So is ibuprofen, and ibuprofen is a hell of a lot better as an anti-inflammatory agent than pot is. Yet nobody would claim ibuprofen cures the flu. The fact that ibuprofen is not a popular-but-illegal recreational psychoactive probably has something to do with that.

[jberryhill]

26. No, it's backed up by studies...

...or was that goiters?

It was either swine flu or goiters.

Hey, did you ever notice that 'swine flu' is a palindrome for "swine flew", like, "when pigs fly"?

There is this AWESOME Pink Floyd tribute band touring around that I saw a couple of weeks ago. At the end of the show they have this huge flying radio control pig balloon thing.

It was really cool.

Are you going to eat that?

[cbc5g]

41. And I'm sure some dude on a bulletin board will laugh at the claims

No surprise there.

[Occam Bandage]

44. Until they have any evidence for them, sure.

A tiny, unknown company making unfounded miracle-drug claims ought always be considered laughable until they can present some evidence.

[Union Yes]

15. If this is true then I'm immune.

:hippie:

Peace

[parasim]

19. Nice. So I'm good to go then.

Sweet.

[dysfunctional press]

24. that shitty mexican weed doesn't seem to be all that effective...

i prefer a domestic blend.

[seemslikeadream]

32. Who doesn't

[babylonsister]

35. Would this be the thread to suggest aggressive placement of seeds in silos,

so everyone could benefit?

Ah, seeds! :)

[MercutioATC]

38. It doesn't make you any better....

...but you're too stoned to care...

[shadowknows69]

39. I've smoked a lot of pot since I was about 17

I also haven't had the flu pretty much since then and I used to get it every year as a child. Coincidence? Probably, but it gives me continued excuses for my favorite vice. 'Scuse me while I hit this pipe.

[EOTE]

54. For me, it's bronchitis. Haven't had it in about 12 years.

As a teen and child, I'd get it every year and it would be HORRIBLE. Now, as soon as I feel that tickle come about in my throat, I just smoke a little bowl. Within minutes, all the phlegm will be out and I'm comfortable again. Thanks to pot, I don't need to ever worry about bronchitis again.

[Ganja Ninja]

43. It may not be a cure but it certainly can't hurt. n/t

[bamacrat]

46. Awesome.

Doubt it gets you high but its a start when it is shown to actually have benfits.

[leftyladyfrommo]

48. Yea. And if you are sick you won't care. n/t

[lunatica]

52. The many uses of pot