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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 08:42 PM
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Bailed-out Goldman Budgeting $569,220 per Worker - WTF?
From NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/business/26pay.html?ref=todayspaper

"Of the large banks receiving federal help, Goldman Sachs stands out for setting aside the most per person for compensation. The bank, which nearly halved its compensation last year, set aside $4.7 billion for worker pay in the quarter. If that level continues all year, it would add up to average pay of $569,220 per worker — almost as much as the pay in 2007, a record year. “We need to be able to pay our people,” said Lucas van Praag, a spokesman for Goldman, adding that the rest of the year might not prove as profitable, and so the first-quarter reserves might simply be “sensible husbandry.”

Sensible husbandry? We are the sheep getting screwed by this. It is hard to imagine a more arrogant statement.

Story continues... "At other banks, pay scales tilt in favor of particular units. JPMorgan Chase, for example, is setting aside what would total $138,234 on average for workers. But in the bank’s trading and investment banking unit, if revenue stays at first-quarter levels, workers are on track to earn an average of $509,524 over the year. That figure was $345,147 in 2006."

So, while Wall Street is demanding and encouraging companies to outsource to China and India because labor is cheap, they themselves believe that high pay is necessary to retain the best people. This bullshit has got to stop. I'd jump on a plane tomorrow to attend a mass protest in NYC. Bring it on - where are the leaders who can organize? This is not the stuff of whacked out conspiracy theorists, it really and truly is the new era of American fascism. And we let it happen because we just don't give a damn about ourselves, our children or our nation.

Every one of us, democrat and republican should be seething, fire spitting angry about this and ready to march in unity and mass protest on Wall Street.

Here is FDR in 1936. As true now as it was then. FDR was a great man and great leader. Where are the great leaders now? Working for Goldman lining their own pockets with our taxes and retirement money.

"For twelve years this Nation was afflicted with hear-nothing, see-nothing, do-nothing Government. The Nation looked to Government but the Government looked away. Nine mocking years with the golden calf and three long years of the scourge! Nine crazy years at the ticker and three long years in the breadlines! Nine mad years of mirage and three long years of despair! Powerful influences strive today to restore that kind of government with its doctrine that that Government is best which is most indifferent.

For nearly four years you have had an Administration which instead of twirling its thumbs has rolled up its sleeves. We will keep our sleeves rolled up. We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace‹business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me‹and I welcome their hatred."
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 08:52 PM
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1. wow just one of those paychecks would do me just fine for the rest of my life...
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 08:53 PM
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2. I wonder what the janitor makes
And what kind of health care he or she gets.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 08:58 PM
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3. obscene.
Other individual and organizations that face closures due to huge debts - do not expect a) a bail out; b) to keep paying full (or aggrandized) paychecks for ALL - at the tax payers expense.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:13 PM
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4. Given that large banks have had zero incentive to change their business practices
this shouldn't be a surprise.

The White House needs to start flexing its muscles against these assholes the same way they have against automaker CEOs.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:27 PM
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5. It seems our government leaders are STILL picking and choosing crony corporations
to give all our money to. President Obama should be held accountable as well as Bush.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 10:27 PM
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7. the treasury has been outsourced to Goldman and Wall Street
and along with it, any responsibility or accountability to the people of USA. We are a nation that has been radically transformed away from public service and accountability. And in its place we have installed something much, much worse - dependence on the kindness of self-regulating corporations. Torture, and wire tapping and Geithner's "see no evil" give-away to Wall Street define our morals, values and culture as a nation. Its looking grim for the public sector.

Contractors at one point made up more than half the US force depolyed in Iraq (estimates range between 170,000 and 200,000) - Blackwater, Halliburton, CACI. Even torture was outsourced in attempt to dilute government accountability. AT&T principals were involved with wire tapping US citizens for NSA and CIA. Goldman Sachs is ground zero for treasury policy making. As if Enron and the first S&L disaster weren't enough warning, we continued to shovel policy and legislation into the open arms of corrupt corporations over the next 15 years. And we are continuing to do right now with all of the Amnesty being handed out.

As an Obama delegate in Texas, I had hoped for swift and firm correction in to the practice of out sourcing government functions to corporations. This can only be achieved by the application of common justice - the law must apply equally to everyone. However, since our government is now dependent and in many ways controlled by corporate forces, its no surprise that its been nothing but amnesty for the elite and culpable criminals at the center of the greatest scandals of our generation. Its not looking good for justice nor public participation in government over long term. The data and inevitable consequences of inaction are frightening.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:44 PM
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6. K&R
:grr:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 10:51 PM
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8. Why is there not more outrage about this? FUCK!!!!
They're getting rich and we're getting fucked in the ass. It's not right!!!! :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:39 AM
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14. WHAT YOU SAID!!!!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 10:54 PM
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9. I wonder if "compensation" includes the bribes to SUmmers and Geithner.
:shrug:

LET THEM FAIL.

REPLACE THEM WITH SOMETHING LEGITIMATE AND HONEST.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:30 AM
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10. hmm ... "average" vs "median" ...
I wonder how many would actually get the "average" ... very few, I bet ...

sounds like the old bit about 10 guys in a homeless shelter ... Bill Gates walks in, and one homeless guy says, "Hey, on average, we're billionaires!"
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:23 AM
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11. average pay, not median pay
The term term average is used 6 times in the article. I don't see the word median used anywhere.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:34 AM
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13. meant to add I do I understand your point
but I don't think it matters. It's an obscene amount and a slap in the face of all of us. Executives are facing some caps, so median is likely closer to mean this time around. But again I believe its mostly academic.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:26 AM
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12. I'd let them budget just $450,000 for me. I should let them know about this bargain..
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LeftHandPath Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 08:22 AM
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15. What does Goldman make?
What is their contribution to our society? What do they do to deserve these salaries?
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:59 AM
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16. kick
:kick:
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