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jackson Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:12 PM
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More scholars and others call Bush worst president ever; New book traces lifelong Bushies deceit
by Jackson Thoreau

In a relatively recent column in The Washington Post, Columbia University presidential scholar and historian Eric Foner called Bush the worst president in U.S. history. Foner even said Bush was worse than Nixon and comparable to James Polk, who led the U.S. into the unprovoked invasion of Mexico by lying about an "alleged Mexican incursion into the United States."

"Nixon considered himself above the law," Dr. Foner wrote. But "Bush has taken this disdain for law even further. He has sought to strip people accused of crimes of rights that date as far back as the Magna Carta in Anglo-American jurisprudence: trial by impartial jury, access to lawyers and knowledge of evidence against them. In dozens of statements when signing legislation, he has asserted the right to ignore the parts of laws with which he disagrees. His administration has adopted policies regarding the treatment of prisoners of war that have disgraced the nation and alienated virtually the entire world. Usually, during wartime, the Supreme Court has refrained from passing judgment on presidential actions related to national defense. The court’s unprecedented rebukes of Bush’s policies on detainees indicate how far the administration has strayed from the rule of law."

More recently, others have come out saying Bush is the worst president ever. Even someone as mainstream as developer Donald Trump recently said Bush was "probably" the worst president ever. Even mainstream Republican Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel recently said that Bush is "not accountable" and "you might see calls for his impeachment."

Nobel Prize-winning economist George Akerlof of the University of California recently said that this was the "worst government the United States has ever had in its more than 200 years of history. It has engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies, not only in foreign policy and economics, but also in social and environmental policy.... Future generations and even people in ten years are going to face massive public deficits and huge government debt."

Historians Sean Wilentz and Robert S. McElvaine have previously lent more evidence of presidential scholars’ and others’ concerns about Bush.

Unfortunately, we cannot impeach presidents for being irresponsible and raising deficits to give boatloads of money to his wealthy campaign contributors and supporting unwise actions. But we can impeach presidents for breaking the law. By this count, Bush deserves to be impeached. His "disdain for law" detailed by Foner and many others runs much longer than the superficial reasons on which the former Republican-controlled Congress impeached Bill Clinton.

Still more unfortunately, we aren’t likely to succeed in impeaching Bush through Congress, whose Democratic leaders have already said impeachment is off the table. We can try to push through petitions and join in impeachment efforts, such as Vote to Impeach and the Impeach Bush Coalition. Things could turn, though I’m not holding my breath. By doing so - even in a doomed effort - we raise more public awareness about Bush’s deceit.

But the way we can see the fruits of our efforts is by impeaching Bush in the court of public opinion and the history books. I’ve spent a good part of the last few years polishing book that is backed up by hundreds of footnotes mostly from mainstream sources that is my contribution to impeaching Bush in the court of public opinion.

Born to Cheat: How Bush, Cheney, Rove & Co. Broke the Rules - From the Sandlot to the White House shows how Bush & Co.’s cheating started when they were young and continued to their power grab of the White House and lust for an empire. I include a list of resources for people who want to do something about this administration to have somewhere to turn.

If you want more info on the book and how to read it, go to http://www.geocities.com/jacksonthor/cheat.html

PLEASE NOTE: I didn’t write this book to make a few more bucks – believe me, there are easier ways to make money than writing something like this. I wrote it because it was a story that had to be told, for history's sake. I wrote it because I could put it together and show how the deceit of these players started young and continued throughout their sorry lives. I wrote it as a warning, so that maybe we won’t let this happen again.

I wrote it for my kids and their kids, so they’d know that quite a few of us didn’t sit around while Bush & Co. was leading this country and the world into hell.
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jackson Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:13 PM
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1. BTW, Democratic Underground is in the resources list of the book.
Hats off to people here......
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:20 PM
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3. Wow!! DU listed in the resources!
:applause: We've got a great many researchers here, and they're all top of the line!

:hi: Hats off to the DU researchers!! :woohoo:

:kick::kick::kick:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:22 PM
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6. A major part of the Democratic platform should be to restore democracy.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:19 PM
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2. Here's the thing I can't get over:
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 04:20 PM by no_hypocrisy
I can understand one destructive, manipulating, opportunistic man getting into the highest seat of power and trying to impose his antediluvian set of principles established over centuries to make societies more fair, just, and civilized.

What I can't get over is how many people were there with him, either in agreement or without principle, to actively assist him executing his plans. I have tried not to compare our situation since 2000 with the Third Reich; I kept telling myself it was comparing apples to oranges, or maybe not even relevant and on point. But I still returned to the same question for both regimes: Hitler and Bush didn't do it by themselves. They had banks, businesses, lackeys, sycophants, and mindless followers in order to effectuate their deconstructive plans that, in their minds, were supposed to "improve" and "strengthen" their countries, making them ultimately "saviors". It's the supporting actors so to speak who scare me more than the stars.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:24 PM
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7. This is what lead Milgram to carry out his obedience studies in the 60s
Where he tested how far he could get student volunteers to go by shocking a subject (who was in on the experiment) to the point of death. I don't have a link, but google "Milgram obedience" and enjoy (or be horrified)
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:31 PM
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10. my Art History teacher played a film about that experiment when I was in college!
hundreds of us sat there, stunned as the whole thing unfolded, including the 'SCREAMING' subject, who had electricity applied in ever increasing voltage, until there was nothing on the other end

I'll never, ever forget that
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:28 PM
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8. Because it is not Bush. or at least, not just Bush.
What happens is that a group of thugs, henchmen, or in this case, neoconMen, gather together because they find a usefool tool like the Boy King. Like Hitler, he is to some extent, a figurehead. Hitler, for all his paranoia and power grabbing, alos collected around him some superb, likeminded creeps who felt about the rule of law no differently than Rove, Cheney, Gonzales. addington bolton, and many more. Himmler, Goering, Bormann, and a whole crew of people came around because of similar goals, not because Hitler was so brilliant.
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jackson Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:30 PM
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I try not to compare it to the Third Reich either but.....
you look at the early stages of Nazi Germany and there are some similarities. I doubt we will go down that road, but we should heed the warning.
And Bush had Rove, his dad, Cheney and others pushing him. Bush's main motivation was actually personal revenge against Clinton, to somehow "right" his father's name after Clinton beat him in '92.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:41 PM
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17. I think Bush was able to do this because of two things:
1) The 9-11 attacks, of course

2) The long-developed right-wing movement that calls itself "Conservatism" in the US. That movement itself is the product of several decades worth of very intentional anti-labor propaganda, meant to undermine the New Deal. It includes the formation of religious fundamentalists as a voting block.

Bush, as part of the usual GOP/corporate plutocracy which has been directing this marketing-driven "movement" since it's inception, was able to simply step into the driver's seat, as other GOP politicians have. Bush is just particularly egomaniacal, ideological, and, frankly, stupid.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:41 PM
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21. It isn't Bush's plan. He is a frontman for a
criminal oligarchy--an organized crime syndicate. Hitler waas the planner of his own policies--but Bush was chosen by the crime syndicate specifically because he wouldn't bother with such things, but his weaknesses made him easy to lead and control. They get him to do what they want, while all the while thinking he is the Decider.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:21 PM
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4. Just a note folks
you should know that this is truly an emergency. It is HIGHTLY unssual for a practicing historian (let alone one of the statuture and prestige of Dr. Foner) to get involved in CURRENT affairs
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jackson Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:31 PM
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11. Not to mention Donald Trump....
he has to play both sides so that's a big concession for him.
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:21 PM
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5. On The Eve Of The 2000 Election - Told My Friends Bush Would Be Worst Ever
How did I know?

I'm a Texan.

You just can't bullshit Texans.

Except Texan Republicans, of course!
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jackson Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:33 PM
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13. I lived in Texas most my life,
even covered some of the 2000 campaign. I still remember how sick I felt in Dec. 2000 when Gore conceded.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:31 PM
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20. I bet my brother we'd be at war within six months. It took just a little longer but sure enought nt
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 05:31 PM by EVDebs
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:30 PM
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9. By far the worst ever from any point of view in every aspect of governance
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:32 PM
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12. I think this Congress *is* building towards impeachment, personally.
The smart way to go about it is to do just what they're doing now; hold hearings, issue subpoenas, and expose crimes that have been and are being committed by this Administration. Once this is done, they'll be in a position to not only impeach him, but convict him in the Senate, which would actually mean something (unlike Clinton's ludicrous impeachment, which really accomplished nothing for the Republicans).
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jackson Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:34 PM
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14. I hope so, maybe the previous statements
about impeachment off the table were to just deflect the real purpose. We'll see....
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:35 PM
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15. Thanks jackson
:hi:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:37 PM
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16. Bush2 never would've happened if Clinton hadn't been so generous to Poppy Bush
and sided with his secrecy and privilege over the right of the American people to be informed of their government's official wrongdoings and crimes against the constitution.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:44 PM
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24. Rachel Ehrenfeld's Evil Money page 180 hardcover
"The BCCI debacle made its first intrusion into the US presidential race in 1992 and may be more damaging to the Democratic presidential candidate Bill Clinton, governor of Arkansas, than his alleged extramarital affair. Clinton's fund-raiser and confidant, Jackson Stephens, a billionaire from Little Rock who owns the controlling interest of Worthen National Bank in Little Rock, was the person who introduced Bert Lance to Abedi. While Stephens might not have known back in 1977 that BCCI was a criminal bank, Bill Clinton had full knowledge of Stephen's involvement with BCCI when he accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Stephens family for his campaign. On the eve of the New Hampshire primary Robert Morganthau was looking into the BCCI/Stephens/Clinton link (21). In December 1991 The Wall Street Journal reported that Stephens and his bank invested in Harken Energy, a small Texas investment company of which George Bush, Jr., is a board member. The money Stephens invested came through the Swiss BCCI subsidiary."

21. Mike McAlary, 'Bill Clinton Banker's BCCI Link' New York Post, February 7,, 1992

It looks like the key to keeping people's mouths shut and cooperating with the CIA's buddy-bank BCCI is to spread the money around. It also precludes the pursuit of certain crimes with the ever ironic 'national security' excuse.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:47 PM
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25. Interesting that an issue as HUGE as BCCI and Clinton doesn't mention it ONCE in his book.
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 05:54 PM by blm
9-11 is rooted in BCCI and Bill STILL wouldn't mention it.

None of the Dem party spokespeople would go near BCCI during the campaign - no doubt because they were protecting Clinton. I always believed that the Dem consultants who supposedly focused group BCCI and said people don't understand it were LYING to the Kerry campaign. When Kerry brought up BCCI in a Sept.2004 speech, none of the Dem pundits would talk about it afterwards.

I was also told by a Boston Globe reporter that he and others tried to bring it up and their editors and publisher did not want it emphasized.

BCCI is the key to the entire fascist system, imo.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:52 PM
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26. That is weird.
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 05:55 PM by sicksicksick_N_tired
Maybe, it's just easier to ignore than confront the "switch" from BCCI to other finaciers, if you know what I mean?

On edit: Carlyle has shift-changed as has "halliburton" into lots of different creatures.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:59 PM
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27. Is Stephens a big Hilary contributor ? Nah, couldn't happen a second time
Could it ?
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:41 PM
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18. I used to wonder how on earth the German people allowed themselves,...
,...to be manipulated into doing nothing about such grossly inhumane tyranny. Now, I see how cynicism and fear can be utilized to manipulate almost any populace containing a thread of disenchantment/disappointment/disillusion with life.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:47 PM
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19. The History News Network has...
been playing with polls of historians for a couple of years now, and Shrub tends to show up on the bottom 5. He's not well liked amongst professional historians.

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/hnnus?q=worst+president&sa.x=0&sa.y=0

If that doesn't work, just go to

http://www.hnn.us/

and search-- worst president

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/hnnus?q=worst+president+poll&sa.x=0&sa.y=0

comes up when searching-- worst president poll

Nope, he's not well liked at all.

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:42 PM
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22. its scary how awful and treacherous bush really is
and yet so many people have support bush.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 05:43 PM
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23. I'm waiting for "Born to Kill: From Frogs to Humans".
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 05:44 PM by WinkyDink
Sub-title: "How a Psychopath Became President".
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:09 PM
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28. Hey! I agree!
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:33 PM
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29. SURE you can:
Unfortunately, we cannot impeach presidents for being irresponsible and raising deficits to give boatloads of money to his wealthy campaign contributors and supporting unwise actions.

It's High Crimes and MISDEMEANORS, remember? There's not requirement that laws be broken. Serious incompetence, serious and serial irresponsibility, etc., most certainly CAN be cause for impeachment.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 12:49 PM
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30. The arguments and evidence for impeachment
are more compelling than for any other president in history, overwhelming IMHO.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:31 PM
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31. The news and information media brainwash people into accepting this situation.
It's appalling - and terrifying - how many people in this country, apparently still close to 30% (one-third the adult population!) STILL don't see much wrong.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 03:56 PM
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32. Why has it taken them so long to figure out what we knew from day one?
Why is everyone a slow learner?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 04:04 PM
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33. If you're talking about the historians,
it's because historians don't usually write about current events. In fact, they rarely do.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 05:15 PM
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34. LOL I know that, I just mean in general. Light bulbs going off over people's heads. Finally.
Glad to see you aren't calling me names this time dear.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 06:16 PM
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35. Well, dear
as the OP was about historians, one presumes that your remark addressed the OP. But I'm relieved to know that you were actually aware of how historians work.
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