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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:32 AM
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Former Bush NSA Stephen Hadley defends torture: "The proof is in the pudding"

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Feaver also asked Hadley to provide the audience with some insight into the Bush White House by addressing the public's conceptions about the administration.

The former president conveyed humor, intelligence and a sense of enormous strength in person, Hadley said. He noted that much of Bush's personality was distorted by the influence of television and therefore lost on the American public.

Hadley added that many of Bush's policies would be validated by his legacy.

"The War on Terror, which has generated a lot of controversy, is actually something that stands the country in good stead and the president in good stead," he said.

The Bush administration probably underestimated how much it knew about Iraq leading up to the war, Hadley said. But he defended the administration's use of "harsh interrogation techniques" in the War on Terror.

"The proof is in the pudding," Hadley said. "We were able to uncover real plots and save lives."

Only three individuals were subjected to the controversial practice of "waterboarding" under the Bush administration, he added.



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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:35 AM
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1. Too bad he can't name any 'real plot' that was uncovered.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:41 AM
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3. Absolutely.
What a bloody lie, the "proof is in the pudding".....there was not a single plot uncovered by torturing, any non-partisan intelligence person will tell you this.

False logic, false causation: "There were no attacks on the homeland after 9/11, therefore torture works."
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:44 AM
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5. Cheney said the so called UK airline terror plot one of the successes of torture
though, it's been reported that A) US really had nothing to do with discovering this "plot" B) the so called ring leader is free in Pakistan
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:47 AM
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8. i don't believe it
There is not one documented "ticking time-bomb" case. And by documented, I mean by someone or some entity not politically invested in torture.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:43 AM
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4. Even if you could pin him down to answer

He'd just lie his ass off.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:15 PM
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13. No kidding. I was going to say we need details.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:41 AM
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2. petrified pile of shit
K&R
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:44 AM
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6. When and if the indictments start rolling down, we've got a great target right here...
In the name of Stephen (Torture is Good) Hadley
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:45 AM
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7. "That's blood pudding. Smirk." - Republicon Homelander Torture Freaks
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 11:47 AM by SpiralHawk
"We are, like, totally into the torture thingy. Smirk."

- Republicon Homelander Latter Day Pharisees
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:48 AM
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9. He can't even get the saying right
"The proof of the pudding is in the eating".
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:48 AM
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10. Another scumbag war criminal...
...distorting the act of torture into something noble, with no proof offered for the lofty claims made. I hope I live long enough to see people like Hadley answer for their horrific, sadistic behavior.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:07 PM
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11. The pudding is in his head where a brain should be.
The proof should be brought into court with the indictments of those who approved and ordered torture.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:09 PM
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12. "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." Nobody says that any more.
Everyone says "the proof is in the pudding," which DOES NOT EVEN MAKE SENSE.
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