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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:30 AM
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Could Some of you please refrain from saying "That's Not Hope and Change!" when criticizing Obama?
You have every right to criticize him, but I see that phrase every so often and rightfully so it pisses the hell out of me. Its the same GOP talking point we saw during the election and thereafter. Whenever Obama did something they didnt like, they would say, "That not hope and change!" or "That's not the hope and change we were promised!"

If you are going to criticize, get your own talking points, not ones from the Repukes.

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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:32 AM
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1. When you run on a platform, people are going to measure you against that
That's why we always trashed Bush when he did something that was neither compassionate or conservative.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:33 AM
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2. .
:thumbsup:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:09 PM
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22. Some DUers use that phrase when criticizing the President about Afghanistan, despite
the fact that he is keeping his promise of increasing the number of troops there.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:33 AM
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3. Sorry, but it hurts because its true. nt
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:11 PM
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23. Yep, the truth hurts. nt
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:04 PM
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31. You got it! n/t
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:34 AM
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4. so YOU are telling everybody what to say now?
Is that the hope and change we worked for?












:P
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:34 AM
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5. Sorry, but no.
The Obama campaign pumped the populace up with the meme's of hope and change, they were shoved in our face on a continuous basis. I feel that it's only right that he has to eat his own words when he fails to provide real change.

You don't like that, oh well.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:41 AM
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7. I still have hope.
And I am seeing change. I see no problem.

He has no words to eat, IMO.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:46 AM
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12. Bravo! Agreed! n/t
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:48 AM
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14. Same here!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:49 AM
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15. Thats because we are just simple-minded sheep or bots, or suckers.
How bout cultists!

Seen them all in the past week.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:54 AM
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17. I really wonder why those that are soooo disappointed
and see no good in the short few weeks Obama has been President are still here.
It's become obvious that nothing this man does will make them happy.

I'm proud of our President! I wear the 'bot label with honor!
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:37 AM
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6. You used it three times in one post. n/t
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:42 AM
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8. You're so right!
"That's not hope OR change" seems much more grammatically correct. Thanks for the clarification!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:43 AM
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9. I'm substituting it with 'the cow on the barn'
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 11:53 AM by bigtree
. . . as in, "This isn't the cow on the barn we were promised."

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:45 AM
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11. Fine
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:44 AM
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10. People live by the cliche
These are the same tools that yell at their co workers "Show me the money!" then laugh hysterically at the incredible wit.

I actually kind of like it when I see someone here use a puke yapping point as though it's their own. It's a great way to populate an ignore list.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:47 AM
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13. Agreed.
I thought after Obama was elected my 'ignore' list would empty out. Instead it's filling up fast. Sad...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:53 AM
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16. Obama has given us PROMISE,,,,and he is a change... we got fresh air now
He is doing better than I expected considering the scope and obstacles
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:58 AM
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18. Out in the real world many would agree with that.
Sadly on DU where you would think support would be strong... well, not so much.

I wonder what Pres Obama could have done already without the inherited crap to clean up.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:01 PM
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19. Its a very small vocal minority. My Obama approval poll had 74% approve and 13% somewhat approve.
6% disapprove and 2% somewhat disapprove.

So his approval rating on DU is 87% and disapproval rating is 8%
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:22 PM
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26. I feel them Pub Trolls and moles are infectious..but their strident refusal to see reality is losin
them ground....peeps are beginning to really see their Negative FLAWS and BS
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:34 PM
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27. These people arent pub Trolls, they are DK and Nader folk.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:21 PM
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33. Because we really are not definitive...I will guess its a mixed bag of trolls, etc etc
all with evil nefarious intentions....
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:06 PM
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20. Could you please refrain from telling people what they are and are not allowed to say?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:07 PM
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21. If I was doing that, I wouldnt have said please.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:14 PM
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24. You obviously can't handle the truth. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:17 PM
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25. In Spanish, there is only one word for "hope" and "wait".
They are one and the same. The word "hope" is not a very strong word. Obama used it early on, but then figured it out and went with "Change We Can Believe In" and "Change We Need". Hope was really only good in getting it started.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:46 PM
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28. Cheap political slogans make easy targets when unfulfilled.
"The Great Society" Whoops! Vietnam.
"Morning in America" Brought to us by the Great Drooler
"A Chicken in Every Pot" No pots, no chickens.
"Compassionate Conservatism" - 1,000,000 dead Iraqis

etc, etc, etc.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:00 PM
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29. Sorry, but we got the "Hope n' Change" bullshit stuffed down our throats 24/7 for over a year
It will continue to be puked back at him until we get our pony, and not a minute before.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:02 PM
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30. have fun puking
and puking and puking and puking. no ponies for you.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:12 PM
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32. Ohai, self-appointed pony Nazi!
:hi:

Have fun whining and whining and whining. No purgies for you. :nopity:
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