Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Shell will no longer invest in renewable technologies as wind solar and hydro power/not economic

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 01:35 AM
Original message
Shell will no longer invest in renewable technologies as wind solar and hydro power/not economic
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/mar/17/royaldutchshell-energy

Shell will no longer invest in renewable technologies such as wind, solar and hydro power because they are not economic, the Anglo-Dutch oil company said today. It plans to invest more in biofuels which environmental groups blame for driving up food prices and deforestation....

The company said it would concentrate on developing other cleaner ways of using fossil fuels, such as carbon capture and sequestration (CCS) technology. It hoped to use CCS to reduce emissions from Shell's controversial and energy-intensive oil sands projects in northern Canada.

The company said that many alternative technologies did not offer attractive investment opportunities. Linda Cook, Shell's executive director of gas and power, said: "If there aren't investment opportunities which compete with other projects we won't put money into it. We are businessmen and women. If there were renewables we would put money into it."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 01:48 AM
Response to Original message
1. "attractive investment opportunities"
Well there ya go!

:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:26 AM
Response to Reply #1
6. And our tax money is shoring up, maybe not Shell, but banks and
investors with similarly short-sighted investment strategies.

No more bail-outs for the rich. Give the money directly to the little guys -- and not in tax cuts. The people who need the most help don't have jobs or viable businesses right now and aren't paying income taxes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:05 AM
Response to Original message
2. Burn in Helll....
Anyways, I hope smaller comapnies come and take control of the renewable energy movement. There is too much wealth concentrated in too few companies now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #2
11. The oil companies will let the small companies develop wind & solar
and then swoop in with their billions and buy them up. Much easier and probably cheaper for them in the long run.
The US gov't will pay for a lot of the development for them. And in the end they get the ultimate profits.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:09 AM
Response to Original message
3. Will "no longer"!? Did they ever!? Nonetheless: goodbye, Shell.
Don't let the door of opportunity knock you ... oh, who the hell am I kidding?

I would gladly watch as these dinosaur corporations sink while innovators rocket past them.

Bye-bye Shell!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:14 AM
Response to Original message
4. There should be laws to deiberately EXCLUDE any existing oil companies from future energy technolgy
The very fucking reason why these technologies are so far behind where they should be is that these greedy fucking bastards have no interest in any form of energy which they cannot patent, or control the supply of.

And you can't own the wind or the sun. But you can cut deals with your fellow criminals at Monsanto & ADM to make sure corn and only corn is the source of "biofuels".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:14 AM
Response to Original message
5. Good! We don't need this kind of thinking for the future.
It's time to abolish the mega-energy structures and their hold on resources and political power.

The way I see it, oil prices are someday going to explode as demand increases and supply diminishes. And it will happen fast.

Anyone who's invested in wind, solar or hydro/tidal power are going to be the smart ones.

Time for this dinosaur to die a natural death.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:52 AM
Response to Original message
7. "developing other cleaner ways of using fossil fuels"
Yeah, like 'clean coal'!!? what ever, Oil companies are a crooked lot. "If there were renewables " what a pathetic excuse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:52 AM
Response to Original message
8. Hmm, perhaps then we should try not using shell. Eventually, they will be obsolete.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 07:16 AM
Response to Original message
9. wonder if a big ole carbon tax would change their tune
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 07:54 AM
Response to Original message
10. Yup, the profit margin isn't there for them, go figure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. The poor dears are barely scraping by
Can you imagine seeing ExxonMobil's record profits and then looking at their own paltry balance sheet from the third quarter last year?

http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/10/31/exxon-mobil-earnings/

ExxonMobil made $14.8 billion, totally dwarfing Shell's $8.45 billion. No wonder Shell's in a pissy mood. Up thread, the poster who said that the oil companies will bide their time until someone makes alternative energy this profitable, and then swoop in and buy it up is probably spot on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:14 PM
Response to Original message
13. I own a Shell/BP solar panel. Wonder if they're selling that division?
My other panel is a Kyocera 55 watt

The shell panel is 85 watts

Hey SLAD, you still mad at me?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:21 PM
Response to Original message
14. good! get left out in the cold. They're just showing they're total dinosaurs.
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 12:22 PM by ima_sinnic
Isn't Shell the company with all the fake "concern" about the environment? I actually received an unsolicited CD of some sort from them in the mail that I think was supposed to make me feel all warm and fuzzy about their "environmental efforts." I hung it out near my garden to scare birds away without playing it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
15. That's why gasoline prices had to fall..
Now we need government intervention to force them to relinquish their control over all the patents they have been buying up for decades, so someone ELSE can bring those ideas to fruition:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC