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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:12 PM Original message |
Re: the Madoff scandal; WTF is up with making comments about the victims? |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Elie Wiesel, Holocaust survivor, was wiped out. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. and money from the foundations as well |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. his foundation - not he. |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Some days people throw a "I'm more enlightened than you" contest on DU |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. *Some* days? |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I was being compassionate |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Well considering the fact that I'm a puritan freeptard... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Because there were warning signs for years. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Hindsight is 20/20. Looking back, Clinton should have clearly taken bin Laden |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Wow. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I'm not on trial, and I'm not arguing before a judge. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Knowing that he was chair of NASDAQ and of a reputable business school |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Research enough? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. "trust"...hmmmm |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. I am of too minds |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree... hindsight is twenty twenty honestly the warning signs were |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Yes, the SEC is clearly cupable for some of this. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think many need to believe the victims were really stupid... |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Bingo |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. Investors were so desperate to be a part of Madoff's special club that.... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Well, yeah, that's how a confidence game works, of course. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It was a nasty scam for sure, but investors played their part... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. You seriously think they should've suspected that a former chair of NASDAQ |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. NPR interviewed some of those scammed a couple of months ago... |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Not all of them |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. We have to remember that many people invested with Madoff because the people they knew |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. Too quick a guilty plea - too many questions unanswered...... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I completely agree about the missing money. You don't spend that |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I also agree that in a Ponzi scheme money goes from the right hand to the left.... |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. Yes, where are the others? |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
20. I blame the SEC much more than I do the victims. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. You can't cheat an honest man. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. I Can Only Guess You Haven't Been Paying Attention |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Okay, all I've seen about that is sheer, 100% speculation. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Experienced Investors |
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ozu (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
26. Individual investors were wealthy |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Who has Steve Jobs oppressed? Huh? |
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ozu (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Jobs |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. If you have a cite or evidence to support that claim, feel free to post it here. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
35. It was reported that he was going to plea bargain. |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
36. These people were (my understanding) getting a very very high rate of return, higher than any other |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Not really. You had the former head of the NASDAQ running the thing |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
43. they call him the greatest evil on the planet, pure evil, evil this, evil that... |
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