Well, the GOP mess finally got me - I lost my legal asst job here in Miami , FL

[Sarah Ibarruri]

(sigh)

I'm so sad and so frustrated that we allowed the GOP to hurt our country for so long. How could this have happened to our country?

:think:

I'm looking around desperately for a job in my field, but even attorneys are applying for legal assistant/secretary/paralegal jobs here in Miami. It's so bad. I think I need a beer.

:beer:

Anyway, wish me luck! Send me a hug. And if you hear of anything, you know where I am.

:pals:

[waiting for hope]

1. Good Luck!

:hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

2. Thanks my friend! I need it!! lol nt

[October]

3. Hugs!

I'm so sorry.

:grouphug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

7. Merci! Thanks! nt

[EFerrari]

4. Damn! I'm so sorry, Sarah.

DUer Cant Trust Em suggested looking in the non-profit sector and imho, he's right.

I haven't had fulltime work for almost two years. It's no fun. :hug: to you.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

9. OH! I am SO sorry!! :( Now I feel like a heel for being sad....

Darn it I hope this gets fixed one day. They've done so much harm to our beautiful people.

[EFerrari]

17. No, I think it's very important for us to tell each other what is happening.

That's the only way I can see for us to deal with it.

You may be in a good position to tap the non-profit job market. You let us know how you do. :hi:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

19. You're right, you're right - I promise I'll let everyone know if I find anything -

you do the same please

:fistbump:

[marmar]

5. Sorry to hear that......I hope you find something soon.

I've heard more than a few reports about lawyers seeking out legal assistant jobs lately.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

10. Yes it's shocking! nt

[pnwmom]

6. So sorry, Sarah. Here you go.

:hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

11. Thank you my friend! nt

[Infomaniac]

8. Good Luck

Good luck on your job search. :hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

12. Thank you, info! nt

[TriMera]

13. Have that beer...

Here's that hug. :pals:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

14. Thanks! Boy do I need those now. :( I've joined the unemployed club nt

[Mnemosyne]

15. Damn, sorry Sarah.

:hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

16. I know... thank you. (sigh) nt

[Mnemosyne]

72. Hang in there, everything is temporary, always.

:hug:

[TBF]

18. What a difference 15 years makes, huh?

I was a trial paralegal in Washington DC during the 90's. I would go on job interviews (after I had a few years experience) and get offers on the spot. And turn them down because they weren't high enough. When I left in 2000 my salary was six figures with my o/t, and I cashed in my decent investment account & headed to grad school.

I can't imagine what it's like now. I'm so sorry you lost your spot. I've been watching law.com and it's very frightening.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

22. I know! It used to be so easy. Now it's a nightmare! I went to one interview....

for a legal secretary/paralegal job, and the atty I interviewed with told me he'd received over 200 responses. Out of those, 18 were attorneys seeking the position! My hair stood on end!!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

20. Good luck!!

I was a legal secretary, then a court stenographer for twenty yrs, and I have a BA in Biology and a J.D.

I looked for a legal assistant job back in 2005-2006 and got a grand total of one interview in about two yrs of looking. And I used my law school's job search office to help me. Didn't do any good.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

24. :( And now it's worse than ever. nt

[flvegan]

21. FDLG has openings in Miami, I'll bet.

That's Florida Default Law Group. Foreclosure and closings law firm. Shitty field to be in if you're morally objected to it, but it is work.

Just an fyi. And good luck!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

25. Thanks, friend. I'll take a look nt

[JohnnyLib2]

23. Best wishes, Sarah.

You've been such a steady poster, wish it paid! :hi:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

26. I know! :( nt

[lonestarnot]

27. Try state and federal agencies.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

31. Thanks friend, I will nt

[ixion]

Sorry to hear it, Sarah. I hope you find something soon!

:hug:

:beer:

If I hear of anything in that area, I'll be sure and PM you.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

32. Thank you! I'd appreciate it. And I'd love some of that beer lol nt

[TNDemo]

28. I've been wondering how the legal profession was faring

across the country and if it would be affected. What have been the main issues? They did a spot on the news the other day that divorcing couples are having live together because they can't afford to divorce until house prices go back up. What about car accident claims and medical malpractice and things like that? What is taking the biggest hit.

Sorry for the 64,000 questions. It's just an industry I don't deal with much. Here is to hoping you find something quickly and what you want and pays a bundle.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

30. No it's okay for the questions :) Well, what I've seen happening is that...

1) Clients are no longer paying as quickly as they used to, or paying at all
2) Any firm that was remotely associated with real estate, construction, banks, loans, the construction boom, home sales, etc. is almost finished. Real estate departments are dead except for foreclosures.
3) Bankruptcy is doing okay but not as good as foreclosures
4) As companies die out and people go out of business, law firms have less business

LOTS of layoffs, LOTS! Some stealth layoffs, some en masse.

It's not good.

[texastoast]

36. Big firms here

Are making big administrative changes. Some are getting rid of secretarial floater pools. Legal assistants are doubling and tripling assignments. Secretaries are getting assigned as many as four attorneys. Some firms are doing away with the classic secretarial position altogether and going to big typist pools and structuring one assistant for several attorneys more like a traffic cop for directing work to efficient, specialty service groups. "Luxury" IT jobs are vanishing and marketing budgets are being reduced. One of the big firms here laid off 16 people earlier this week (some attorneys included). That's pretty unheard of.

Raises were nothing and benefits are beginning to be reduced at my firm. So far no layoffs but early retirement packages were offered and many accepted them. The attrition is not being replaced.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

43. Thanks for the info! It doesn't sound as bad over there yet

Here, they're doing away with floater pools, they've been on 4 to 1 for a while, LOTS of layoffs everywhere. Clients are not paying billed time.

[Double T]

29. Sorry for the news. Your next job will be better than the one you lost.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

34. Thank you, Double T! Bless you! nt

[MrMickeysMom]

33. You will do well...

... and of course, here's wishing you support.

Hang in there!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

35. Thanks so much, MrMickeysMom! All those wishes are bound to help

I believe in that.

[Blue_In_AK]

37. My daughter who is a lawyer in LA, now at a mid-size firm,

says the larger firms are laying off up to 90 lawyers and 250 staff people, or approximately 10% of their employees. She's feeling fortunate that she downsized to a smaller, more manageable sized law firm last summer. I don't know what all those associates are going to do with their (no doubt) very large student loans.

And good luck, Sarah. In some respects you'll probably have an easier time finding work than the lawyers will.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

44. Can you imagine! Those huge loans! Thank you Blue. I'm glad your daughter is safe

at her job! And thank you. The attys I have close friendships with, some are out of work and suffering greatly. :(

:argh:

[Blue_In_AK]

55. Have you thought about doing court transcription?

I was a legal secretary/paralegal for 25 years here, but I left the biz in 2001 when our firm downsized (because all my favorite people were leaving), and started typing transcripts at home. Here in Alaska all the court proceedings are recorded on four-track CDs, and then we transcriptionists have the playback program that works just like a dictation tape would, with headphones and a foot pedal so you can start and stop as you type.

I subcontract with a woman who has contracts with the state and federal court system. She's very busy, and I have work almost all the time -- transcribing trials for appeal records, motion hearings, all kinds of things. It's interesting, plus I can set my own pace -- I tell her how much I want to type, and she downloads me the sound files off the CD that she picked up from the court or attorney. I don't even have to do any of the production -- just type and get paid by the page. I can do it in my bathrobe. :)

Anyway, it's just a thought. There's some security in being your own boss.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

56. Not a bad idea. I wonder how I'd get started on that.....

Maybe contact court reporter offices?

[Blue_In_AK]

57. That's what I did.

You might talk to your court clerk, too.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

58. I'll check it out. Thanks Blue_In_AK!!! You're the best! nt

[Stephanie]

88. Order a foot pedal - well worth it

And you can download a free trial of Express Scribe.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

68. They did this to get rid of the trained court reporters.

What do you do when a person mumbles?? You can't get a usable transcript if somebody mumbles.
The court reporter has to interrupt the person and tell them to speak up and repeat things. I did it constantly. The court reporter also has to interrupt when the lawyer and witness run over each other's words.

And who CERTIFIES the transcript? That they were there and that it is complete AND accurate?

You're not gonna get that with a person running a tape recorder. Tape recorders do NOT hear the same way people do and they cannot clarify the record.

:shrug:

A defendant's life hangs in the balance, but HEY, we can't afford a REAL court reporter.

[Blue_In_AK]

77. I'm afraid I don't agree with you.

Our in-court clerks are very good about making sure that the recording is clear, they monitor it continually, and if someone isn't coming through they are not shy about stopping the proceeding and getting it clarified. The recording is on four channels, a microphone for the judge, one for each attorney, and one in the witness box, so we are able to isolate out each channel when people are talking over one another. The transcript is certified by the transcriptionist, i.e., me, and I will swear by my work. Like I said I've been doing this full time since 2001, and before then I was doing it as a second job, and I have never had a complaint by either side about the quality of my work.

I type the transcript, then I go back and listen to the whole thing again to make sure I got it right. That's one thing you can't do if you're an in-court reporter.

And I also know of stenographers, the "real" court reporters, as you want to call them, who couldn't get a transcript scoped right if their life depended on it.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

84. I didn't operate that way.

I made DAMN SURE that every word was as close to perfect, and every sentence as close to perfect, as was humanly possible.

In fact, I once took a deposition where the attorney did not speak in complete sentences. I refused to change the transcript to make the attorney look good. My boss FIRED ME for making an accurate transcript. So much for doing a superlative job.
:shrug:

I am stil wondering what sort of certification you have to go through? Does the state make you pass a test, and make you get a bond, so you can sign and seal documents, like a Notary?

I have been a C.S.R. and a Notary Public both. Actually, if the clerk is REPLACING the court reporter, then the clerk would have to go over the transcript and swear that it matched what they heard in court. Since you weren't there in person, I wonder what the wording is on the certificate.

[Blue_In_AK]

90. Yes, I did pass a test and post a bond.

Our certification says this:

TRANSCRIBER’S CERTIFICATE
I, **, hereby certify that the foregoing pages numbered 2 through * are a true, accurate, and complete transcript of proceedings in Case No. ****, transcribed by me from a copy of the electronic sound recording to the best of my knowledge and ability.

______________________ _____________________________
Date ***, Transcriber


As I said, I voice check the entire transcript (I usually do this after I've typed about 40 pages or so, so I don't get fatigued before proceeding), then it's spot checked again by the woman I subcontract with, who does the production end of it (as well as a lot of typing herself), and then finally it's spot-checked again by clerks in the transcript department at the court, who are very, very picky. And, of course, the attorneys have the final say -- if something doesn't sound right to them, we go back and listen again, but I've never had any issue with an attorney.

I agree that the old tapes, even though four-track, were sometimes not the best, but with the new digital recordings, they couldn't be any clearer. And, of course, it helps that I've been doing legal work for 34 years and know the "terms of art." Just as there are no doubt skilled and less skilled stenographers, there are skilled and less skilled transcriptionists. Not to brag, but our team is very skilled.

We have the same issue as you do when people talk about sending these CDs out to "transcription factories" in the Lower 48, who know nothing about our court system, or more especially how to spell Alaska place names -- Kikmiktalikamiut, Arovirchagk, Chuathbaluk, to name a few.

Anyway, I know this a longstanding fight, and I do see your point of view. Maybe there's room in the world for all of us. :pals:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

98. Isn't that crazy? When did things arrive at a point where the only thing that mattered....

was CEOs making big profits?

[Shakespeare]

78. I'm in LA, too, at a small boutique entertainment law firm.

Our offices are in the twin towers in Century City, and we've been hearing lots of elevator chatter about who's getting hit with layoffs. The most recent big firms to do mass attorney layoffs were Latham & Watkins and Cox Castle.

We're in pretty good shape so far, but if the actors strike (which then hits our clients directly, and hard), we will be well and truly fucked.

[Blue_In_AK]

81. The ones I heard of were

Latham & Watkins and O'Melveny & Myers, which is where my daughter had been working since she graduated from law school in 2003 up until last year. O'Melveny will be letting 90 lawyers and 110 staff people go. My daughter is at Liner, Grody, etc. etc. now.

[Shakespeare]

82. Jeez. Hadn't heard about O'Melveny yet.

They're across the street from us in a different office complex (as you probably know, Century City and downtown are the two clusters for law firms).

I feel awful for everybody being let go, and I'm EXTREMELY grateful for my job (not just that I have one, but that I work for a truly wonderful bunch of people). Scary stuff.

[Blue_In_AK]

83. The announcement from O'Melveny just came out a couple days ago.

I believe the cut is 10% of their employees. It's a very, very sad thing, and if those young associates have student loans anything like my daughter's, it will be a real crisis for them.

[Stephanie]

89. Latham!

There goes my weekend job... :(

[TBF]

87. It hasn't hit the top firms in Texas yet (although some mid-size fims have had layoffs),

but we are worried. Law.com has an updated layoff list.

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Good luck Sarah, we all know things are bad all over

[Sarah Ibarruri]

45. Thank you, my friend nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

39. Sorry Sarah, good luck.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

46. Thank you! I need the luck! nt

[Patchuli]

40. I'm sorry Sarah!

I do understand. My husband lost his 8 year hardware salesman job last week. And they love him. They had to cut a 1/3 of the workforce. My thoughts are with you and him that you will both find a better new job. Think of me too, please? I work for a school district 4 million in the hole...! Hopefully, my seniority will carry me better for the next school year than it did in 2004! Remember, we're all in this hole together and together, we'll climb the hell back out! We are Americans and I'm still really proud of that fact in spite of the last 8 years of hell. I never did like my husband's employer of the past 8 years so it's kind of funny that we got rid of BUSH (hahahaha I am *saying* BUSH instead of *!) and my husband's icky job almost at the same time! I guess if we look hard enough, we'll find a rainbow somewhere? Good luck and keep us posted, please!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

47. Patchuli, I'm so sorry. And thank you for sharing that with me!

I will send you blessings and hope that both you and your hubby climb up to a very comfy position soon. I have lots of hope that eventually we'll all climb out of this nasty hole the Repukes have put us all in. Let this be a lesson to us that we cannot afford to let this happen again.

:pals:

[Patchuli]

74. You are right about that!

Everytime Rethugs get control, they completely f*ck everything up. The Boyking did an incredible job of turning everything he touched to shit! Hey, he took down a company, a baseball team, a state and now a country. Let's hope the pain dealt U.S. by the Bush clan will ensure that never ever will another one 'grace' our White House! NO JEB!!!!

Hang in there, friend! We will get through this! :fistbump:

[applegrove]

41. So sorry.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

48. Applegrove, thank you. Your picture of Obama cheered me up some tho! nt

[Jennicut]

42. My sister in law just lost her job as well and she is in the medical field

She was a med asst and got let go as she was one of the last people hired at a Dr.'s office. Its bad in every profession right now. My husband works for our local power company in CT. I hope he keeps his job, it so tough for everyone right now. Good luck.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

49. Jenni, thank you. I hope your hubby keeps his job!!! Gosh, I had no idea doctors were

letting people go! Everything that's happening makes me REALLY mad at GOPers.

I'd like to whack them big time! All of them! Starting with the #1 dunce and his evil vp.

:spank:

[Jennicut]

61. Yeah, its bad in all professions. Hang in there.

I am angry too. She is only 29 and she and her husband have no kids and he has a good job still. But I know tons of people that have lost jobs already and that has never happened before, a lot of people in their twenties and thirties. Its effecting younger and older workers. Hopefully it will turn around at some point.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

62. It will. The problem is, when. :( I'll keep everyone posted on what happens w/ me nt

[OmahaBlueDog]

50. I'm Sorry, Sarah

I don't know anyone down in Miami these days in the legal profession. On the other hand, if you have a straight truck with a freezer or a reefer unit (NOT THAT KIND OF REEFER), I know someone who might be able to help you out.

Good luck.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

51. Reefer? lol :) Thank you my friend OmahaBluedog. I'll keep everyone posted on how

I am doing.

[Cerridwen]

52. Much LUCK!

I typed it in CAPS and gave it an ! so it'd be stronger. :D

And...

:hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

53. Yay Cerridwen! I felt that! Thank you much, my friend nt

[Sarah Ibarruri]

54. I'm off to bed, but I'll respond to any more messages tomorrow - a big hug to all & tx! nt

[Behind the Aegis]

59. I am so sorry!

While not in your situation (knocking on wood), my partner comes home today and announces his company is laying of 4% of its entire workforce, the process has already started! I have been 'unemployed' for over 6 years. His company pays for my insurance. I am trying not to get too upset, but both of us will start re-tooling our resumes. I pray this will pass us over and feel for those who are about to get the "pink slip."

On your front, I know someone with contacts in the legal world and Miami. I will see if the two paths cross, should I hear of anything, I will let you know immediately!!! I wish you the best!

:hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

63. Thank you, Behind the Aegis! I appreciate it! I know everyone is going through this...

If it doesn't affect them directly, then a friend, or family member, or someone else. It's an unusual time. We've gone from so much abundance, to such a disaster :(

Still, I'm hoping for the best!

:fistbump:

[pengillian101]

60. Best to you!

In these uncertain times, we all can use a hug :grouphug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

64. Pengillian, thank you!

Here's one back at you:

:pals:

[roody]

65. I'm so sorry. I hope you will be getting unemployment.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

66. Thank you, roody! Yep, I will be, but it's not very much at all!

I hope I can pay something with it!

:shrug:


Still, it's better than nothing!


:pals:

[Genghis]

67. Feel like venting?

My angry video about those responsible for the mess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVWcK9aWhqs

I am really sorry about your job and hope that you find a new one soon. Too many suffer for this nation's stupidity.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

93. Genghis, I LOVE your video!!! Thank you so much. It helped nt

[ddeclue]

69. Links to job search:

http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobResults.aspx?IPath=QAKV&sc_cmp1=js_navg_nvjtl&nvjtl=%5eJN030%24&APath=2.21.0.0.0&ff=21&excrit=freeLoc%3dMiami%2c+FL%3bQID%3dA3852718323362%3bst%3da%3buse%3dALL%3brawWords%3dlegal+assistant%3bTID%3d0%3bCTY%3dMiami%3bSID%3dFL%3bCID%3dUS%3bENR%3dNO%3bDTP%3dDRNS%3bYDI%3dYES%3bIND%3dALL%3bPDQ%3dAll%3bPDQ%3dAll%3bPAYL%3d0%3bPAYH%3dgt120%3bPOY%3dNO%3bETD%3dALL%3bRE%3dALL%3bMGT%3dDC%3bSUP%3dDC%3bFRE%3d30%3bCHL%3dal%3bQS%3dAdvSearchFrm%3bSS%3dNO%3bTITL%3d0%3bRAD%3d30%3bJQT%3dRAD%3bJDV%3dFalse

60 legal assistant jobs on careerbuilder in Miami.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

94. Thank you, friend. nt

[monmouth]

70. Check out Palm Beach County. We have so many corrupt pols here

there's sure to be loads of law work in the coming days. I do wish you the best. Seriously, check the pbpost.com, they may have listings...

[Sarah Ibarruri]

95. lol OH boy there are so many corrupt politicians everywhere! Obama needs to clean things up!

Thank you much.

[Joanne98]

71. I'm so sorry. Good luck. I've been laid off for two months. I'm going crazy.

I think I have cabin fever. It's going to be warm today so at least I can garden.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

96. Joanne, I'm so sorry! Yes, doesn't it drive you up the wall?! I'm going crazy too nt

[Mika]

73. So sorry to hear this. Things are VERY tough in Miami.

One just wouldn't believe the horror stories that come through my practice. No one has any money. even if they have a job.

If it wasn't for the free work I do I would be sitting at home most of the time. Even the "rich" are so bust they aren't getting their teeth done.


Best of luck to you. :hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

97. You're kidding me! (About the teeth of the rich). That's pretty crazy! nt

[Kajsa]

75. I am so sorry, Sarah.

I hope you find something, soon.

MY SO works for the state, so we've had the axe hanging over
our heads for a while.

Sending a big :hug: and good vibes your way.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

99. Thanks Kajsa. I hope things stay well for you - I'm very hopeful about getting a job nt

[Bryn]

76. Bummer!

I worked for the Miami Herald for 17 years and decided to take early retirement in 2005 at age of 55 because I felt things were going to get worse. Got approval quickly for SSDI (I am totally deaf, but I had been working for 36 years.) Got pension from the Miami Herald, move to Arkansas. Recently I got a letter from the Miami Herald ... they are freezing pensions, but no change for those who are already receiving pensions so I got lucky. My car insurance went from $1,600 per year to $700 per year when I moved from Miami to Arkansas. Living here in Arkansas is much cheaper than South Florida. I lived in Homestead/Florida City. I still miss it there. Even my house insurance went from normally $379 per year to over $2,000 because of those hurricanes. I couldn't live on present income if I stayed, wouldn't be able to retire.

I still can't imagine how Americans allowed GOP to destroy America for 8 years! x(

I hope you find something better. My sister lost her job as paralegal secretary in Ohio last December. She is still looking! :(

[Sarah Ibarruri]

100. Wow, you got so lucky! Thank goodness for that! Sad about your sister tho

I'm hoping to find a job eventually! Somebody has to need me! Send me some good luck!

Btw, my nephew is completely deaf so we share something.

[Ganja Ninja]

79. Find a lawyer who specializes in bankruptcy.

I hear that segment of the legal profession is booming.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

101. Ganja, I'm looking desperately everywhere.

LOL! And I'll bet more than one person is needing that ganja!

[akbacchus_BC]

80. Dear Sarah, I am so sorry to hear that you have lost your job. I hope

you find something soon. Good luck and best wishes.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

102. akbacchus, thank you so much nt

[roguevalley]

85. I send you hugs, honey, hugs and good wishes. I wish I knew

something. Did you try on Craig's list?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

103. Thank you Rogue! I needed those hugs! Yep, I've tried craigslist....

Things are bad all over. I'm hopeful tho!

[roguevalley]

108. don't give up, sweetie. my dad used to go and take jobs he couldn't

do but sassed people into believing he could. He learned fast on D-8 cats and the like. :) My dad, my hero.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

110. Your dad sounds like an awesome, beautiful person! nt

[Xenotime]

86. I know the rich GOP are happy. Sorry to hear about your loss.

Hold out for Obama. He will turn things around.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

104. Thanks Xeno. I'd like to smack the rich GOP upside the head.

I am trusting Obama. I cannot believe the monstrous situation he's gotten stuck with. :( I hope he reminds the nation constantly what crap he inherited from the GOP.

[tnlefty]

91. Sorry to read this.

Good luck and I hope that you find something soon.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

105. Thanks, Tnlefty! nt

[devilgrrl]

92. Good luck to you!

:hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

106. Thanks Devilgrrl! Your pic of the new GOP hero made me laugh lol nt

[joeybee12]

107. Good luck, sweetie...I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

It's a shock, I know, as I've been laid off in the past...just know you're not alone in this mess and things WILL get better.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

111. Thanks!! Btw, I decided I'm going to volunteer with the poor once a week -

Maybe that will keep my mind off the craziness the Repukes left for us to clean.

[OhioChick]

109. I hope you find something soon, Sarah.

:hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

112. OhioChick, me too! Meantime, I'm going to be volunteering to help the homeless, the poor

I'm not rich myself, but hey, I figure everyone can do something to help someone else!

[kywildcat]

113. Hugs

:pals:

[Idealism]

114. Sorry to hear of it, Sarah

Our job market is Florida sure sucks now! :(

Commercial real estate has plunged in the state, all I am doing now are private deals once a month if I am lucky :cry: