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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:51 AM
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Has anyone heard of the "Smart Grid"
It would seem that the Smart Grid made it into the Stimulas package and may be coming to an organic farm near you. The industrial farms industry is going after the organic farms and trying to control all of the food production in the country. If you have seen anything about the genetic seed issues then this is going to cover the rest of the farming world.

Two bills are making there way through committee now and no one is saying anything about them Bills 814 and 875, creating a new food safety department.

Full article here: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Monsanto-bills-being-rushe-by-Linn-Cohen-Cole-090217-758.html


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The bills in both the House and Senate are virtually identical. This means this whole deal was decided at the same time Smart Grid was inserted into the Stimulus Package. The house and Senate bills will lay the groundwork for NAIS and other programs, and Smart Grid will make them operable.

Both these bills appeared simultaneously in both houses, having been planned before the fact. This speeds them through committee and brings them to the floor to be calendared. Since both bills are identical, there will be motions to suspend the rules on debates. Meaning none will be allowed. We will have to watch these closely as they will appear suddenly on probably the same day with the House voting first in the morning and the Senate in the afternoon.

Not one rep or senator has denied, refuted or argued even one of our articles or any of our statements. Not one major paper has covered any of it.

This is all part of the Smart Grid System of controlling everything in our lives and us – to me it is the Patriot Act gone ballistic, digitizing every aspect of our lives and leaving no area of privacy or true freedom whatsoever. Do people even remember anymore how different life used to be, how it belonged to us and only us?

Found here: http://rfdamerica.com/?p=333


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One of the largest components of Smart Grid is already being implemented by the USDA; it's called the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) it requires farmers to implant a RFID tag into the body of all of their livestock–cows, pigs, goats, chickens, sheep, all livestock. The NAIS threatens to destroy small-scale family farms. If you're not familiar with the NAIS, here are a couple of resources: Downsize DC, NAIS: Too little too late? and NAIS: Let's do some fuzzy math. Coupled with Smart Grid, the NAIS strengthens the ability of Government officials to control rural Americans as completely as they control people in the cities.

President Obama believes implementing Smart Grid is urgent. He wants the program to expand quickly, with all of us on the thinking grid by 2011. All of us.

Notice the great rush to do this. The great and unjust and non-transparent and immensely UNDEMOCRATIC rush - to force on the entire country something they know nothing about.

We are talking about one of the most massively controlling laws in the history of this country and one affecting the health and thus existence of every single person. We are talking about the take over of the US food supply by industrial forces and the contamination and thus death of organic farming through stealth.

Everything green, healthy, anti-global warming, local, decent, environmental, community building, independent, free thing that organic farming is, we need. But the corruption of our government and politicians by Monsanto and especially the Clinton influence on behalf of Monsanto, is bringing us horror.

Obama must be held accountable. The bum's rush is not grassroots anything. The implementation of plans laid during Bush's regime is not change. This, no matter how you cut is, is fascist.

"Food and nourishment are right at the point where human rights and the environment intersect."
Alice Waters

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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:59 AM
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1. See Boulder, CO
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stklurker Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:09 PM
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2. Smart Grid
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:15 PM
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3. Sounds like maybe you haven't, eh
Smart grid they are talking about in the stimulus bill has nothing to do with controling you and everything to do with EV's and our electrical grid.
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:47 AM
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10. You right, thats why I asked seems it has to do with food tracking.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:16 PM
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4. What on earth are you talking about? "Smart Grid" refers to self monitoring electrical distribution
One of the real problems we have with our power system is its not really possible to tell how much power is being carried through lines at any given time and so its even harder to route electricity when there is great chance of overloading the lines. Much of this is because we have increased our use of 'reactive power' which is as much a mathmatical concept as it is real that I could explain to you but would hate to have to do so.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:19 PM
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5. "It would seem that the Smart Grid made it into the Stimulas package"
It seems? Yet no explanation How? Not even a description of what the smart grid is? Even though it's so scary that it Warrants Capitalization?

Color me 'hesitant to become hysterically afraid of one more thing without a good explanation why'.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:22 PM
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6. And another thing: the NAIS microchipping program is voluntary
sez wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Animal_Identification_System

"While the federal program is voluntary, money received by some states,<2> tribes, and non-profit entities <3> from the USDA through cooperative agreements has been used to make parts or all of the program mandatory. <4> <5>"
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:24 PM
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7. The "Smart Grid" relates to green power and the current electric grid!
Obama has mentioned it quite a few times.

You're also wrong about the NAIS! Country of Origin tags/labeling has been around for quite a few years, and the animal farmers have been fighting it ever since it began! The current implementation, IMO, is a joke! A package of steaks will have a tag saying something like "Country of Origin: North or South America." The intent of this ID was to let the consumer know where the product came from, like Canada, Mexico, USA, etc. It also will NOT hurt family farmers, or organic farmers. It's not those smaller guys who constantly search the globe for the cheapest stuff they can buy!
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:38 PM
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8. NAIS is just the modern version of branding cattle.
It's just a lot more humane, and a lot more information can be conveyed than just a design.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:39 PM
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9. Maybe better to ignore sites saying "News and Conservative Commentary From the Country"
especially when their Recent Posts are:

* PETA: Domestic Terrorist Group Targets Family Farmers
* Epidemic: Two-thirds of the milk supply is infected
* Smart Grid: Government spying targets Rural America
* Vegetarians Cause Global Warming & Threaten to Destroy Organic Agriculture
* Secretary of Agriculture Announces $6 Million For Race-Based Giveaway

They're nuttier than squirrel shit. They don't know what 'Smart Grid' means at all, but they're probably the same guys who thought the Commies were poisoning our Essential Bodily Fluids with fluoride, back in the 50s.
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