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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:08 AM
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OMG!!1! Venezuela becomes more like evil commie pinko fascist nations like
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 12:23 AM by LynnTheDem
CANADA!

"A prime minister does not have a fixed term of office - once appointed and sworn in (s)he retains the office until (s)he resigns, is dismissed or dies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Canada

And BRITAIN!

"There is no term of office for a prime minister."
"No term limits are imposed on the office"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom

And other such evil-doer nations such as;

Australia

Japan

France

Belgium

Netherlands

Sweden

Iceland (world`s oldest democracy...how could they!!1!)

Italy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_term_limits


OMG!!1! We're all screwn!!1!


Dear America, get out of the US bubble now & then.



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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:12 AM
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1. Not true about France
There are term limits on the French presidency.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:13 AM
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2. Passed in 2008 to 2 terms, you're correct.
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 12:16 AM by LynnTheDem
Sorry!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:16 AM
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3. In 2005 Columbia eliminated term limits and our traditional media didn't care
so why should we care about what Venezuelans decide about how long their leaders can serve?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:51 AM
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9. The media windbag Wurlitzer is singing the same old right-wingnut propaganda song.
Trying to tell us what to think, as usual. Well, we know how to think!!!
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:35 AM
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19. It is spelt Colombia. FUCKING COLOMBIA
*deep breaths*
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mecherosegarden Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:19 AM
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4. You better compare it to
Cuba!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:25 AM
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12. NOT CUBA!
lol
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:20 AM
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5. And New York City.
'Cept we didn't get a chance to vote on it. Well, actually we did and we voted NO twice( i.e. to keep term limits), but the gov't repealed term limits anyway.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:43 AM
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6. I love term limits. nt
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:45 AM
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7. ...!
:applause:

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:50 AM
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8. Term limits are particularly important in an oligarchy like ours.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:55 AM
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10. Most of those are parliamentary systems.
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 01:56 AM by Occam Bandage
I believe term limits are essential for directly-elected executive office.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:22 AM
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11. LynnTheDem
LynnTheDem

In the Parliamentarian System it tend to work it self out. Because the Prime Minister tend to be the leader of who ever party who are in POSITION, aka have majority in the Parliament, and even if the Prime Minister are leader in a minority government, he/she seldom have the power to govern, without at least one another party who support them.. In some country, like Belgium, the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway and so on, the Prime Minister is officially been asked by the Head of state (aka the king or queen) to have the government. And in theory they all work at the pleasure of the head of state. If the head of state revoke the support, they very seldom exist for long as a rule. Specially if they are in a minority position, and must have help from other parties to get true with things.. And even if most Head of state, if they are a monarch tend to have no political power on their own - it is very symbolic to revoke their support from the Prime Minister.. Even that I guess it have never happening before either. Very seldom have a monarch revoked the support, even that they do have the right to do so.. I guess the political fallout from a stand like that will be to much for a monarch to bear... A Monarch are in theory an non-political figure, who should try to stand over the political mess, and be there for everyone, regardless of what they political leaning may be... And most modern Monarch tend to do that pretty well to, thank to good advisor's.. It is long time since a KING or Queen have made a mess out of them political speaking... They know they are sitting there they are sitting, because the government - and the people want them to be there... Not because they have some "right" to be there...

When it come to Venezuela I am not sure about how thing will work out,and how to act, but I will guess this means many americans have to start shitting their pants again, and wake up in the middle of the night, bathing in their own body flour, because they have had nightmares about Chavez coming to eat them alive.. Like they did for more than 40 year when Castro was the El Comandante at Cuba. And we all know that Chavez is more than just friendly with Castro, so I will guess the next country to get an international embargo on them is Venezuela, because Chavez is surly looking as the next Castro - just younger and meaner... Because he have the money that Castro never had - he was supported by USSR

Yes I am beeing ironic, I doubt that Chavez would be the next Castro. I doubt that anyone else in the world,could posible thumb the nose at USA and get away with it, as Castro have been doing for the last 40 year or so.. And I would guess when the time is coming, that Castro is dead, and he is burried, he will be missed by most cubans. Most becouse he was giving them some they can use in the future - to be proud of themselfs, to prove that a country can exist, and flurish even if your big nabour are acting out as a spoiled brat.. If US dosen't want to trade with Cuba, the rest of the world would, and even today, with comunist Cuba, the economic ties to Latin America and Europe are just going stronger and stronger day for day.. More than 130.000 US american are traveling to Cuba - by other country, like Mexico and Canada. So it is not exactly a bomb shell that the economy in Cuba are starting to grow, even so slow...

Diclotican

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:27 AM
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13. Castro outlived all the @ssholes that tried to kill him.
Living well is the best revenge. :)
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:46 AM
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16.  EFerrari
EFerrari

Absolutely, to manage to survive more than 1000 hit on your head, and even make jokes about it... Then you are little over the average people I would guess.. And he have not just survived, but also made Cuba one of the most educated people in the whole of Caribia.. For the future that tend to be very important. Even that it can work both ways.. If just US was keeping their hands of Cuba when Castro is dead and in the casket, then Cuba can rise from what they are, to be a stable - and democratic country who use their resources to the best of the people.. I hear it is some gas and oil in the sea outside Cuba. If they as to build this out, it can mean that Cuba can get a flow of revenues to build up a more stable and democratic country that never been seen before in the Caribians.. But that means No influence from the US.. And some good accountability for the cuban government..

Diclotican
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:55 AM
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17. The United States is pre-occupied with the poor Middle East
and I believe it will stay that way for the next decade. Latin America and Cuba will continue to benefit from our "neglect". Now, if we can make some reparations to Haiti for overthrowing their government in 2004, I will be very happy. :)

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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:23 AM
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18.  EFerrari
EFerrari

You are so right, the US are indeed pre-occupied with Middle East, to much to even care if Cuba, Venezuela and the rest of Latin America is building a economic block, political block, and social block, to even try to do something to stop it. It can sometimes be lucky if the "stars" are right, but for the most past I hope the next decade or so will be a time when the whole of Latin America can grow and flourish as never before. And where them self can build the society they will have, and not what ol'uncle Sam want them to have.. The revolution that have happened the last couple of years will just grow stronger and stronger, because for the most part US have not the resources to both fight Latin America and the whole of Middle east... Not at the current level of economical downturn.. Maybe 20 year ago, when the economy was "ok" and the US still have a grand standing in the World, but today, you have not the means, and not the resources to try to thrown out democratic elected leaders anymore.. That time in history have past, and will never came back - even if the right wings of US claim that every one who doesn't like Friedman and who like will west capitalism are branded as communist.. They tried that with Chavez some year ago - he just rugged it off as a bad flue...

Hm, I doubt that US will ever make reparations for Haiti, or every other country they might have overthrown.. The US still deny that USS was instrumental of overthrowing the democratic elected Prime Minister of Iran in 1953.. And many americans are still angry, 30 year later, when Iranians by the millions was overthrown the iranian Shan, and sending him to his exile in 1979.. And specially the 444 day of stand off where american was made hostages by iranians... They claim IRAN have to say them are sorry for that - before US can say sorry for something most american have no clue happened anyway..

But, I will hope that Latin America the next decade or so,will grow and be rich, in any contest of the world, and maybe some other millions of dirt poor people at lest will have a house, and 3 decent meal every day in the end.. That alone will have an impact in Latin America that every US dollar spend of popping up this dictatorship the US have supported over the years seen just a waste of time...

Diclotican
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:28 AM
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14. As someone pointed out It's not like most of those countries
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 02:29 AM by rpannier
They're Parliamentary Democracies
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:31 AM
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15. BushCo must be soiling itself.
:woohoo:
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