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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:08 PM
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Kurt Warner of the Cardinals: "I'd like to blame Jesus for our loss."
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:56 PM by greyl
Subject line is satire. The rest all too true.


(What a great finish to the game!)

Both Kurt and his wife are active born-again Christians.

Warner has also appeared in several public service announcements for Civitan International, promoting their volunteer efforts and their work with the developmentally disabled.

On October 24, 2006, he was featured in a political advertisement opposing a bill supporting embryonic stem cell research in Missouri. The advertisement was in response to a pro-embryonic research ad featuring Michael J. Fox. He appeared in the advertisement with James Caviezel, Patricia Heaton, Jeff Suppan, and Mike Sweeney. The advertisement aired during Game 4 of the 2006 World Series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Warner

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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:09 PM
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1. Tsk tsk. God answers all of our prayers, my friend.
It's just sometimes He says "no".
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:12 PM
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4. fuck warner
he spoke out against stem cell research.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:14 PM
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9. Because the first person you need for a science opinion is a proudly ignorant football player.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:20 PM
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18. But he WAS a bag boy, or so I learned today.
Of course I don't think he qualifies for a Science dude.

:rofl:

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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:49 AM
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57. Let us not mock Grocery Workers......
Their work is honorable and for the most part they do not interject themselves into things of science in national forums.

I know I busted my rear end bagging (as did my checking and bagging crew) yesterday afternoon and evening so that many could go home with their purchases and enjoy their sporting entertainment.


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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:44 AM
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58. I apologise, my intention wasn't to be mocking grocery workers
However, I prefer to bag my own groceries, as I haven't been fortunate to having very qualified baggers when I go shopping.

Back in the 70's the grocers used to train the sack boys as they were called back then, I don't think they receive training anymore. But I do realize that they are doing the job they are paid to do.


As for the Cardinal quarterback he wouldn't have been given a second thought on his science "credentials" if he were still a bag boy, that's the only reason I brought it up in the first place.



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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:43 PM
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29. I agree
F warner a lowlife right wing pos.
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:13 PM
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7. So why is it he is only thanked when things go "right"? nt
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:23 PM
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19. Something about us really, REALLY having to kiss God's ass . . .
. . . at JUuuuuuuust the right moment . . .
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:13 AM
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50. "He?"
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:44 PM
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67. Jesus, not God. ;) nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:11 PM
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2. Not the way it works for the religious. God gets all the credit when things go well...
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:11 PM by BlooInBloo
and *we* get all of the blame when things go bad.

Religion is by definition anti-human.


EDIT: It's a GREAT deal, of course, if you're God.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:11 PM
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3. Allahu Akbar! n/t
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:12 PM
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5. yep, God killed his inlaws for not believing, and God made Arizona lose for having a heretic
:rofl:

Kurt Warner can go kiss my ass.

And, Oh, I pray to God, this thread gets all Mavericky.
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:58 PM
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39. So you are saying
John McCain would give this thread a :thumbsup:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:12 PM
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6. lol!!!!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:14 PM
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8. While I don't share his beliefs or his politics I give him credit for walking the walk.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:49 PM
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32. Hijacking a microphone
to force your religious beliefs down the throats of people who don't give a shit about them isn't "walking the walk."
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:44 PM
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73. Is your response serious?
How exactly are his beliefs being "forced down your throat"? People could say the same thing about Dan Rooney (owner of the Steelers) mentioning Obama in his speech after the game last night, when Obama didn't have a single thing to do with the Superbowl. So the guy believes in God...big deal. Your intolerance is intolerable...or something like that
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:14 PM
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10. He obviously didn't pray hard enough.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:15 PM by ebdarcy
Or God hates him. Whatever.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:15 PM
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11. Did the Cards lose, I hope
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:15 PM by rurallib
We live near his native town and if the Cards win we will never hear the end of Warner, Jesus and his fucking nutcase wife.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:16 PM
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12. Yup. Stillers were well on their way to a blow out, then fell asleep for a quarter, then won it.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:17 PM
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13. Jesus wasn't the one who threw the ball away.
If the Cardinals had played the entire game the way they did the 4th quarter, they would have probably won. Despite the Diebold referee staff that expected them to defy the laws of gravity.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:27 PM
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20. If I remember anything from my childhood, it's that God doesn't interfere with the post-season.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:27 PM by Veritas_et_Aequitas
At least that's what Angels in the Outfield said.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:17 PM
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14. No puppy for his kids either
Sharing a loveseat with his wife, Brenda, in the living room of their suburban Phoenix home late Sunday night, having endured a long day’s worth of pressure from the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC championship game, the Arizona Cardinals’ Super Bowl-bound quarterback made a proclamation that even President-elect Barack Obama didn’t dare utter in his household.

“No puppy,” Warner said, provoking immediate resistance from Brenda and 17-year-old daughter Jesse, the second oldest of the couple’s seven kids. “It’s not gonna happen.”

“Dad, you promised,” Jesse said. “Remember?”

“I never promised that.”

“We are so getting a puppy if you win the Super Bowl,” Brenda said, smiling like someone who knows she’ll get her way. “Just like you said we would.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:30 PM
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70. IOW, he threw the game so he wouldn't have to pick up dog shit
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:18 PM
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15. Jesus really let me down. I swear, that dude must be out to lunch.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:37 PM
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24. Did he seriously say that?!
Idiot.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:19 PM
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16. Clearly the Pittsburgh players are better Christians and prayed harder than Warner
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:20 PM by Better Believe It
:)
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:20 PM
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17. I'm not happy Pittsburgh won but I couldn't be happier that
Warner lost.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:28 PM
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21. bout time "he" started getting the blame for some of this nonsense.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:34 PM
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22. He should blame it on the Cardinal defense
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:42 PM by rocktivity
who couldn't get within a mile of Rothelsberger. He had enough time to make phone calls before he threw the football! No wonder I got so bored, I did my taxes.

When is Tiger Woods going to start playing again?

:headbang:
rocknation
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:36 PM
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23. "God, Incorporated" just went bankrupt.
:evilgrin:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:38 PM
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25. Warner played a great game. Jesus can be proud.
Penalties and defensive mistakes hurt the Cardinals.

Two great quarterbacks in this game.

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:40 PM
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26. Does ANYONE really believe that Jeebus gives a flying fuck about a football game?
Or God? Especially God. He has lot of shit on his plate. Causing tornadoes and tsunamis, smiting people that aren't christians, starting Katrina to punish all them homasecksuals, and especially shooting the shit with pat robertson. God doesn't have time to care about a Himdamn football game.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:31 AM
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45. Apparently, about 1/3 of the NFL players do.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 12:31 AM by depakid
Though if I were them, I'd be praying to God not to break my neck, blow my knee out- or end up with Parkinson's disease from one too many concussions....
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PylesMalfunction Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:40 PM
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27. Something funny I once heard
On TV - some comedian who's name I can't remember. He basically said the same thing you did except that his line was "How come you only hear about Jesus when good stuff happens in a football game. How come you never hear some player say 'Well - I was doing alright until Jesus made me fumble'". :D

Like God gives two shits about a football game. :eyes:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:14 AM
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51. Jeff Stilson
I'm trying to wean myself off sports, it's too time consuming. I don't watch football anymore, I gave that up. I got tired of the interviews after the games, because the winning players always give credit to God, and the losers blame themselves. You know, just once I'd like to hear a player say, 'Yeah, we were in the game—until Jesus made me fumble. He hates our team.'

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jeff_Stilson

:rofl:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:42 PM
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28. Did he really say that?!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:43 PM
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30. Of course not. He was perfectly gracious.
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:53 PM
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35. No he didn't, but he did make an implication
about the fact that his in-laws not showing up for church, was the reason they perished in a tornado in a book.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:33 PM
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72. "Subject line is satire. The rest all too true."
It's right up there in black red and white.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:46 PM
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31. That's odd I just heard him congratulate the Steelers on great play.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:52 PM
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33. People let their hatred of religion lead them to make shit up.
I'm second to none in my hatred of religion, if I allowed myself such deceitful fabrications, why, I may as well just be religious in the first place.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:54 PM
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36. It's called a sense of humor
if you can't buy one, maybe you can rent one
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:56 PM
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38. That's better directed to the OP, but thanks.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:05 PM
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43. lol :)
Glad you appreciate it.

(OP edited in the nick of time to make it clear to the others that the subject line is satire)
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:53 PM
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34. Yeah, but he was thinking it
After the Cardinals won the division championship, Warner said "the only reason" he was up there (talking into the mike) was the Lord Jesus. That must have come as quite a surprise to the other players on his team who busted their asses getting him to that mike. They probably thought they had a small hand in it -- unless Jesus was the guy who made three touchdowns.

I will believe the "I owe it all to Jesus" horse shit when a player refuses a salary increase because he didn't do anything -- it was all Jesus.

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:58 PM
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40. I heard an interview with Marshall Faulk he was very complimentary of Warner.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:16 AM
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52. Jesus made that Cardinal safety fall down...
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 02:17 AM by pokerfan
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:54 PM
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37. He's not the only Cardinal, you know
There are plenty of players on that team who AREN'T Jesus freaks.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:00 PM
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41. I have to agree (although I was thinking the same thing about Warner).
I feel bad for Fitzgerald. He seems like a good guy and is a monster on the field.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:01 PM
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42. Yes, thank you
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:20 AM
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44. Congrats to the Coach of the Steelers
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:50 AM
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46. Heh.
That's funny stuff. ;)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:58 AM
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47.  Yeah well didn't Warner just win an award for his work with Habitat for Humanity( Jimmy Carter) ??
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 12:58 AM by saracat
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:26 AM
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54. If true, so what? Not the point. He still thinks Jews, Muslims, and Hindus are going to hell.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 03:34 AM by greyl
And he still lost The Big Game and only has Jesus to blame!


A bunch of indy filmmakers have set out on a mission to show the mysteries and controversy behind the identity of God, as seen by our culture and society. The film is called God In The Box. One of those they talk to is Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, a devout Christian. One of them asks Warner if he’s worried that his friends and teammates who don’t lead Christian lives will go to hell.

Kurt Warner is worried you’re going to hell


Fyi everyone, this OP was never about targeting Kurt. I'd bet he's a decent enough guy, other than the opposition to stem cell research, GLBT issues, and authentic progressive thought.
It was an opportunistic jab(5 seconds before the end of the game) at the irrationality of a particular religious behavior that I know we've all seen from many, many people.


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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:38 PM
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68. Then it's not the best setup for a reasonable discussion.
Maybe try the Lounge for stuff like this.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:07 AM
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48. What a disgusting post!!! Alerted. n/t
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:11 AM
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49. That would be pretty funny
but alas these people rarely have a sense of humor.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:34 AM
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53. How unChristian! Tsk, tsk, blaming God's son
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 02:36 AM by Sultana
God is going to open a can of WUP ASS on your ass Warren! :D

:eyes:

ps, Did he really say that?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:38 AM
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55. Hey Kurt...
You want cheese with your whine?
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:38 AM
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56. There are a few things that anger me more
than a pro athlete thanking god for their success. There are so many things wrong with it and it just gets me worked up even thinking about it. I love sports and I wish an athlete would come along and just say I'm so happy to have won this game without any help whatsoever from an imaginary space man.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:54 AM
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59. I thought Kathy Griffin said it best...
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 06:54 AM by pokerfan
when she accepted her Emmy a couple of years ago...

"Now, a lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus. He didn't help me a bit. If it was up to him, Cesar Milan would be up here with that damn dog. So all I can say is suck it, Jesus, this award is my god now!"

Kathy Griffin meant this remark not as a slight on Jesus but rather as a satire of celebrities who thank Jesus profusely and nonsensically for their awards, especially artists who themselves are controversial.

Her remarks were quickly condemned by the Catholic League which urged the academy to "denounce Griffin's obscene and blasphemous comment." The Academy said that her "offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast on Saturday night". Griffin later responded, "Am I the only Catholic left with a sense of humor?"

The editing was condemned in two consecutive episodes of Freethought Radio, the latter containing the deleted material. Annie Laurie Gaylor in particular objected to the comment being described as "hate speech."

Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly called Griffin a "pinhead" (a label he frequently uses) for her remark, which Griffin considered a "badge of honor."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Griffin#Second_season_and_Emmy_Awards_controversy
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:52 AM
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60. It's a show of humility...
...that also subtly reminds the audience that here is a man singled out by God for a special blessing.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:43 PM
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65. Few Things That Anger You More?
Holy cow seek help.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:25 PM
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76. It's a pet peeve, sorry you don't know exaggeration when you see it.
Don't you have some wacky conspiracy theories to be working on?
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:06 PM
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66. Then talk to someone.
If you're that easily upset, you may have a treatable psychological condition. No, really.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:24 PM
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75. For fuck's sake, I was exaggerating.
Sorry if I touched a nerve. The point I was trying to make is that it is stupid and as somebody who is a huge sports fan, I have to deal with that crap a lot. The first 2 people who replied to my post understood my point, you and operationmindcrime would rather ignore my point to try and make a sarcastic comment and apparently don't know what the word exaggeration means.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:07 AM
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61. Of COURSE Jesus cares about football
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:21 PM
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69. What a terrible example
he's setting -- playing without a helmet. What will we tell the children?
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:41 AM
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62. Like I said before....
....unless he actually uses his religion to propogate hate towards other people, and not just stances that you or I might not see eye to eye with, I don't really see what his religious views have to do with anything.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:09 AM
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63. A brilliant cartoon about divine intervention in sports
"God-Man on the Gridiron!", a Tom the Dancing Bug cartoon by Ruben Bolling.

It perfectly captures the absurdity of these athletes who think God is pre-occupied with the score in their game.




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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:31 AM
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64. In the Simpson's episode "Homer the heretic" God asks Homer if St. Louis still has a team
Homer responds "No, they moved to Phoenix!"

See, God really is a Cards fan!
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:17 PM
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71. He picked the wrong time for a "Hail Mary Pass".
We could of used a few yesterday during the game.
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ilrslr3 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:49 PM
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74. I'm a born Again Christian and I support embryonic research:-)
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