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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:11 PM
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I have to say, while I dislike them intensely, Republicans know how to stick together and fight
No, I am not calling for lockstep thinking. I am simply saying that when they're in a nearly irrelevant minority in government, they STILL manage to make themselves felt.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:13 PM
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1. '200 million dollars for condoms' i've heard it a hundred times....they are sick
i hope they all get booted 'sticking together'
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:14 PM
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3. They always provide the good material for comedians ....
... but they *do* soldier on ...........
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:14 PM
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2. Funny thing is it's like a man dying of a massively bleeding wood doing this.
Instead of attacking they might want to...you know...bandage up. They may stick together but that's not always a good thing.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:16 PM
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5. Not, it may not always be a good thing ....
.... and for us, it is usually a bad thing ..... but stick they do, through thick and thin.

As they stick together to a fault, our side is as bad in the other direction.

This would be an area where I would favor some ... uh ..... moderation.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:15 PM
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4. That's because they all share one brain. eom
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:18 PM
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6. They do, indeed
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:18 PM
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7. Its almost as if someone is above them all telling them what to say
They don't represent the people, the represent their corporate masters.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:21 PM
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13. Yes, there do seem to be occasional flashes of intelligent control
Seriously, for a party that has no "leader" they sure do manage to stay together and on one single set of messages. I honestly *do* wonder who is their command and control.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:18 PM
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8. I think that's why they're perceived as "strong".....
the lockstep thing, even if most if not all of their message is a lie, harmful, hypocritical, etc.

It's also why they depend upon people being in a state of fear so much; they play that card because they seem united and "strong," and people fall for it.

Ughhhhh.........

I'm actually finding the racist/bigot BS is worse NOW than leading up to the election! I don't know what to make of it. I guess the reality of Obama winning made them all more belligerent...they can't and won't accept it...it really is much worse than before, much to my surprise.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:20 PM
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9. Which is why Reid's "I don't work for him" was NOT helpful, even if...
it is technically correct.

Makes it look like Dems can't agree if the sky is sunny or cloudy.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:34 PM
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21. The fact that our leaders suck is pretty clear.
They've been failing to impress me for a while .....

....... and in 2006, I was so hopeful.
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walkaway Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:20 PM
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10. if Obama hadn't made such a big deal about including them...
they would just sound like a bunch of whiney babies and everyone would be mocking them or not paying attention (except for the low info radio listeners).

Now we have to kiss their ass. They have good reason to stick together and demand the attention they were promised by the president.

He should have ignored them from day one. They are not Democrats. They don't share well. You can't feed them or they'll take over the garden like weeds.

Wake up Mr. President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:27 PM
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17. it's called change
wake up republicans
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:39 PM
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23. I disagree. It is precisely because the President has made
such a big deal about including them that those ditto heads and the people that think as they do are being shown to be "a bunch of whiney babies and everyone would be mocking them..."

Make no mistake, their ass will indeed be kicked.

What Obama is doing reminds me of how Ronald Reagan laid claim to the majority of the electorate nearly 30 years ago. What's funny is Obama may prove to be better at it than Reagun was.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:20 PM
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11. There was an exchange on 'Boston Legal' that perfectly
encapsulates the GOP mindset:

Denny Crane: Say what you will about Republicans, we stick to our convictions even when we know we’re dead wrong.

Allan Shore: Some might say especially then.


(Season 2, Episode 6, "Witches of Mass Destruction")
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:21 PM
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12. This morning on NPR, a Congressional Repub was "interviewed"...
It might have been Rep. Boehner of Ohio...anyway, when asked about Obama's stimulus package, this person said, now...wait for it...yeah...you guessed it...

...must cut taxes and lower government spending :crazy:

That's their answer to everything!

And this...from the party that brought us a $10 billion-a-month war based on lies, and an increase in taxes for the lower economic classes...:silly:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:22 PM
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14. Right you are...
...and the responses so far illustrate one of our problems: making jokes about their tendency to stick together, and stating that it will be their downfall, amounts to hiding our heads in the sand regarding how much damage they will do to us -- precisely because they can stick together, and as a minority can wield what power they do have.

They still have the media to help them frame the debate, and we are already caving to their demands here and there. We already put a large amount of tax cuts in, and took a lot of infrastructure spending out, because that is what the Republics wanted. And we took family planning out of the stimulus because they framed the debate withe the "$200 million for condoms" meme.

This is madness. When, oh when will we get people in leadership positions who are willing to *fight like hell* for *our* side????? And as a woman, I have to ask: since when is family planning negotiable? Family planning has been gutted nationwide over the last 30 years, and we're still making concessions? What the hell???
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:42 PM
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24. "What the hell?"
Well said
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:26 PM
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15. This is true
And for some reason, they seem to get the popular media to pay full attention to their blathering, even when it's patently wrong on it face. "We have to stick with the policies that got us into this mess!" they bleat. And the talking chuckleheads just nod sagely and then turn to the camera to wonder aloud why the Democrats hate America so much and they're so ideologically blinkered that they're willing to drive the country over the cliff financially just so welfare queens can have abortions.

:wtf:

What pisses me off is that by the tenor and the content of the coverage, you'd think that Republicans were in the majority, and that it was their programs that would save rather than ruin the country.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:27 PM
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16. no they don't. that's a myth. the freeps entertain the same myth about dems
if they know how to stick together so well, how come 10 of them voted for Geithner yesterday? As for how they make themselves felt, that's the design of our form of gov't.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:27 PM
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18. Congressional Republicans are taking their orders from Rush Limbaugh instead of their leaders...
How is this "sticking together"?


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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:27 PM
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19. That's why Democratic flabbiness is so infuriating
I heard on the radio this morning that a bunch of Republicans voted against Geither.

Note that they didn't say, "We'll vote for him because he's going to be approved anyway."

Note that they didn't say, "We'll vote for him in a spirit of bipartisanship."

Note that they didn't say, "We'll vote for him because the president has the right to pick whom he wants."

Note that they didn't say, "We'll vote for him because we don't have a majority."

Note that they didn't say, "We'll vote for him because we don't have a veto-proof majority."

Note that they didn't use any of the lame and despicable excuses that the spineless, corrupt Democratic leadership used for not opposing Bush's appointments and initiatives.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:29 PM
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20. It helps to have a sympathetic ear in the media
To know the media won't trash you really helps you have a back bone.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:39 PM
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22. The New Democratic Party is an uneasy alliance, at best
The "big tent" includes a lot of parties, some who percieve their interests as diametrically opposed (e.g. Labor and environmentalists.)

The alliance is unstable, imo.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:46 PM
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25. Sticking together can be a strength and a weakness, too.
All Obama has to do if flip it on them by using the bully pulpit to explain how the Rebukes, as a party, are holding up joe sixpack's unemployment check.
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