Tmeline of attacks (both sides) leading up to this conflict during cease fire

[Duckhunter935]

Just information for everyone for context. Locked in IP since this must be current news and I guess it is not, however I disagree

June 19, 2008
Through Egyptian mediation Israel and Hamas agreed to a six month cease-fire on June 17th that went into effect on June 19, 2008 at 6:00 AM.<48><49>
June 20, 2008
Gilad Herman, an Israeli settler in the West Bank settlement of Yashif, unintentionally fires upon an Israeli when he launches a home-made rocket towards Palestinian West Bank. The rocket lands "meters away from a Breslov hassid who was praying in the area." No one is hurt.<50>
June 23, 2008
A single mortar shell was also fired from Gaza late Monday night and landed on the Israeli side of the border fence.<51><52> No organization claimed responsibility for the attack.<53>
June 24, 2008
Three Qassam rockets fired from Gaza on Tuesday struck the Israeli border town of Sderot and its environs, causing no serious injuries but constituting the first serious breach of a five-day-old truce between Israel and Hamas.<54>
Islamic Jihad rocket exploding in the distance, breaking the 5-day truceIslamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack and said it had been a response to an Israeli military raid in the West Bank city of Nablus at dawn on Tuesday, in which a senior Islamic Jihad operative Tareq Abu Ghali, 24 and another Palestinian university student Iyad Khanfar, 21 were killed. An Israeli Army spokesman said that Abu Ghali had been involved in terrorism and that he was "killed in an exchange of fire." The man killed with him was armed, the spokesman said.
The rocket attack occurred hours after Olmert met President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el Sheik to discuss the next steps in the tenuous Egyptian-mediated truce and the renewal of efforts to resolve the case of Gilad Shalit, an Israeli corporal held by Hamas in Gaza since June 25, 2006.
Israeli Defense Ministry decided that Israel would keep the Gaza border crossings closed Thursday, except for special humanitarian cases, in response to Tuesday's Qassam rocket attacks<55>
June 26, 2008
A rocket hit an open area of the industrial zone outside Sderot. There were no reports of injuries or damage, according to army sources. The Fatah-affiliated Aksa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack. In a text message sent to reporters, it said "the truce must include the West Bank and all sorts of aggression must stop."
On Thursday morning, Hamas accused Israel of violating the terms of the Gaza cease-fire a day after Israeli Defense Ministry decided that Israel would keep the Gaza border crossings closed Thursday, except for special humanitarian cases, in response to Tuesday's Qassam rocket attacks - "If the crossings remain closed, the truce will collapse", Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said Thursday morning.<56>
June 27, 2008
Early on Friday, two mortar shells were fired at Israel from the northern Gaza Strip. One landed near Kibbutz Kfar Aza in the Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council, and the second one hit an open area. There were no reports of injuries or damage in the latest violation of the fragile ceasefire.
Following yesterday's rocket attack by Aksa Martyrs Brigade a spokesman for the Hamas government, Taher al-Nunu, called Fatah's actions "unpatriotic". He said Hamas was considering the possibility of taking action against those perpetrating the attacks against Israel.
Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh called Friday on Palestinian factions to adhere to the Gaza Strip lull agreement with Israel. "The factions and the people accepted the lull in order to secure two interests – an end to aggression and the lifting of the siege. Therefore, we hope that everyone honors this national agreement", he said following Friday prayers.<57>
June 28, 2008
Mortar shells were fired at the Karni crossing. No one claims responsibility for the attacks. Israel blocks all shipments into Gaza except fuel, in response to the rocket and mortar attacks.<58>
June 30, 2008
A rocket falls near the town of Mefalsim. Nobody claims responsibility for the attack. In response Israel once again closes the crossings that had previously been reopened on June 29, 2008.<59>

July
July 2, 2008
There were no rocket or mortar attacks so Israel reopens the four Gaza crossings on Wednesday July 2. Since a truce began June 19, Israel has closed the passages a total of six days in retaliation for rocket attacks.<60>
July 3, 2008
A rocket lands in an open area north of Sderot. A previously unknown organization calling itself the "Badr Forces" claims responsibility for the attack. In response Israel temporarily closes the crossings on July 4, 2008.<61>
July 7, 2008
A mortar shell is fired at Israel from Gaza on Monday and lands near the Karni crossing.<62>
July 8, 2008
After two mortar attacks from Gaza at the Sufa crossing, one fell just inside Gaza and the other at the crossing. Israel closed all the crossing. After an Egyptian request they reopened the crossings. Hours after the crossings opened at noon, militants fired another shell into Israel, causing no casualties or damage, the Israeli military said. Israel kept the crossings open. No Palestinian group immediately claimed responsibility.
In all, 15 rockets and mortars have been fired from Gaza since the truce took effect on June 19. Israel has responded automatically by snapping shut the crossings, which have been closed about half of the time. So far the truce has not eased conditions in Gaza because of the frequent closures.<62>
July 10, 2008
Two qassam rockets were fired at Israel, but caused no damage, after an unarmed Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades infiltrator was killed at the Kissufim crossing. An Israeli Army spokesman said they fired warning shots and when the man did not stop they killed him. The Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades vowed revenge and claimed responsibility for the rocket attack.
In the West Bank city of Nablus, Israeli troops continued for a fourth straight day a crackdown on institutions it links to the militant Hamas movement. On Wednesday July 10 they shot dead a Hamas member near the West Bank city of Jenin.<63>
July 12, 2008
A rocket lands in an open area in Sha'ar Hanegev regional council. Nobody claims responsibility for the attack.<64>
July 13, 2008
Two mortar shells are misfired and they land on the Gaza side of the border security fence in the Nahal Oz region. Nobody claims responsibility for the attack. Israel responds by only closing the Nahal Oz and Sufa crossings.<65>
July 15, 2008
A mortar hit is identified.<66>
July 25, 2008
A rocket misfires and lands in Gaza near the Kissufim crossing.<67>
July 29, 2008
Another rocket is launched from Gaza and mistakenly lands in Gaza.<68>
July 31, 2008
Again, a rocket misfires and lands in Gaza.<69>

August
August 1-31st
In the month of August 7 rockets and 12 mortars were fired from Gaza into Israel.<70>

September
September 1-30th
The month of September represented a considerable lull in the number of rocket and mortar attacks. In this month 3 rockets and 2 mortars were fired from Gaza into Israel. They caused no injuries or deaths.<71>

October
October 11th
A single rocket was launched from Gaza into Israel resulting in no injuries or deaths.<72>

November
November 6th
Israel attacks a 250 meter tunnel going from Gaza and under its border. The tunnel is designed to capture additional Israeli soldiers and hold them hostage. Six Gaza fighters are killed and four Israeli special forces wounded. Hamas responds by firing 30 Qassam rockets at Israel. The truce agreed to five months ago is starting to founder.<73> Between October 29th and November 6th 48 rockets and 21 mortars were fired from Gaza into Israel.<74> Then, between November 5th and November 12th, 22 rockets and 9 mortars were fired into Israel.<75>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rocket_and_mortar_attacks_in_Israel_in_2008#cite_note-64

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Your link is broken. n/t

[Duckhunter935]

4. Thanks, fixed link

[MadHound]

2. Hmm, wonder why all you have up there is a chronology of rocket launchings?

Why don't you include the major Israeli provocations, like the building of the wall, the seizure of thirty percent of the Gaza water sources, the massive shortages of water, food, electricity, consumer goods, jobs, etc. as a result of the wall. Oh, and that Nov 9 tunnel seizure, while Israel thinks that it's designed to capture Israeli soldiers, there is abundant evidence that the tunnel was used almost exclusively to smuggle in food and such, everyday consumer goods, since people living in Gaza can't access those things in the normal manner.

Stop giving a one-sided version of events, and please, stop using Wiki as a resource.

[Duckhunter935]

3. Why dont you and there are Israeli actions also-did you read it?

June 20, 2008
Gilad Herman, an Israeli settler in the West Bank settlement of Yashif, unintentionally fires upon an Israeli when he launches a home-made rocket towards Palestinian West Bank. The rocket lands "meters away from a Breslov hassid who was praying in the area." No one is hurt.<50>

Wiki has links to original source articles so you may also look at them also

[MadHound]

7. What do you think I just did with my previous post

Insert the fact into your biased OP that there is more to this current Gaza debacle than the simple meme(which you are pushing) that the blame lies solely on the side of the Palestinians because they fired off some rockets.

You are the one who is pushing a one-sided version of events with your post, which neglects to include Israel's actions against Gaza. Hmm, wonder why?

[Duckhunter935]

10. You posted "Hmm, wonder why all you have up there is a chronology of rocket launchings?"

That was wrong and I posted a section that showed what you stated was incorrect

What is so hard for you to understand "CEASE FIRE"

And you are still free to post all, Israeli document vilations as I am also looking

[MadHound]

11. Yes, that's what I posted

And indeed what you originally posted, a chronology of rocket launchings, as though this was justification for Israel's actions. Ooo, you posted one, count it, one accidental Israel rocket launch, big whoop. You have yet to address why Palestinians started firing rockets, you know, those little matters like being cut off from food, water, and their jobs. Why aren't you addressing this? That's the question I originally posed, yet you have yet to answer it. Why won't you answer that question?

[oberliner]

12. Rockets were launched against Israel before anyone was cut off from food, water, and their jobs

Hamas has been launching rockets at Israel since long before the seige.

[MadHound]

13. Really? Because the seige in Gaza has been going on for years and decades now

Well before there was even a Hamas. This wall is just simply the latest iteration of Israel's policy to keep Palestinians prone and powerless while Israel continues to seize their land, resources and people.

[oberliner]

14. The seige in Gaza has not been going on for years and decades.

It began in June of 2007 when Israel and Egypt sealed the border crossings after the Hamas takeover of Gaza.

[Duckhunter935]

15. Please supply info on the extent and timeframe of border crossing closures.

My understanding is Israel really cracked down on border crossings began after the suicide bombers. They were intensified on incomming goods after the suicide bombers were reduced bcause of the checkpoints and that PLO/Hamas and other factions started lobbing rockets and morters into Israel. If I am wrong on this please post some sort of documentation.

I agree that the border should be open for all goods and not arms. I think the only way would be for the UN or international group to verify the border checkpoints.

[Zywiec]

16. Why Palestinians started firing rockets

"you know, those little matters like being cut off from food, water, and their jobs."

How will firing rockets into civilian areas get their food, water and jobs back?

:shrug:

[Duckhunter935]

18. CEASE FIRE means what?

Maybe that is why there is so few Israeli actions listed

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

19. Hamas probably couldn't stop the rockets even if they wanted to.

They're not the only armed group in Gaza, and there are plenty of others who are happy to lob rockets at Israel, cease fire or no. I think there has to be some acceptance of the fact that Hamas is not in effective control of every militant group there.

[KharmaTrain]

8. You Didn't Fit The Agenda

The frame here is that Israel is all aggressive and the Palestinians are innocent of any provocations. The "discussion" then is drawn to a laundry list of Israeli actions and historical distortions that don't view this issue objectively...that, again, doesn't fit the agenda.

This post indicates that Israeli perspective, yet one that needs to be seen if you're going to try to view what's going on in a more objective manner. Both sides are polarized by extremist political factions that have put their respective populations in the crosshairs of a long-running game of eye for an eye...instead of finding real ways to co-exist. As long as this issue is viewed as strictly being one-sided, truces will never hold and a genuine peace will never be solved...and those in the middle...will continue to suffer.

[asteroid2003QQ47]

9. KICK n/t

[Donald Ian Rankin]

5. To understand this conflict, one needs a timeline going back to at least 1946

And arguably decades earlier back than that to take in the Irgun attacks and the like.

And possibly even a few millenia before that, although that's less relevant.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

6. To understand it, yes. To solve it, no.

To solve it the damn timeline ought to be chopped up and burned.

[JerseygirlCT]

17. I agree with you

Basing future actions toward peace on history is not likely to be fruitful. There's too much history.

That said, understanding it is also critically important. There is a lot of ignorance, I'm afraid.

Peace is going to have to start from here and now. The needs of all sides will have to be taken into consideration and some sort of guarantees will have to be developed. That will require people with the power to say "yes" on all sides. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear the Palestinians have any honest brokers with that power right now. Hamas is not interested in peace, and those who are cannot control them or the others who are interested only in war and the end of Israel.

Such a mess.