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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:37 PM
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What is becoming clear that the freepers don't understand re: USA scandal
Bush and the Bushies are saying "Clinton did it" and it's all "normal." But it is absolutely not. Under the Patriot Act, the "interim appointments" don't even need to hold law degrees. They can be anybody. And in many, if not most cases, there were not even any replacements on deck when the USAs were filed.

There is simply no excuse to support what Bush/Gonzo have done. It is such blatant, partisan court-packing ass-covering attempt that only a moron (read: freeper, CUer) could possibly be inclined to honestly believe "Clinton did the same thing."

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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:41 PM
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1. Don't need to hold law degrees?
Does the provision really say you don't need a law degree? If that is true, that is truly an incredible power grab.

Or is it that without the requirement for Congressional approval, Bush could appoint anyone he wanted?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:41 PM
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2. No other president "did the same thing" because no other president...
...even HAD an unPATRIOTic Act.

NGU.


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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:43 PM
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3. Even if Clinton didn't set a precedent, Bush II has.
There is virtually no crime he hasn't committed but the public memory is fatigued. Everything seems "normal" these days; everything is acceptable. I'm worried that Gonzales is going nowhere & it's business as usual.
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:44 PM
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4. They're in full denial mode....
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 03:51 PM by whoneedstickets
Any rational examination of the circumstances (i.e. fact-based) can only lead to the conclusion that the firing of 8 USAs mid-term is ANYTHING but business as usual and a far cry from the expected turnover that occurs when there is change in the executive following an election. The only hope they have for retaining their delusion with regard to the integrity of the administration is to make up facts that protect their dogmatic beliefs.

This isn't the first or only time. Look up the WMD in Iraq rationales on FR, they daydream of vast arsenals spirited away to Syria at the outset of the war and insist on this scenario despite the absence of a shred of evidence even when such evidence (if it existed) would be trumpeted from the roof of the White House.

For the most indoctrinated when the facts don't fit your preconceptions and ideology it's easier to make the facts fit than to rework your entire world view. (BTW this happens on DU sometimes too.)
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:45 PM
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5. "freepers" -"don't understand"
This is news? :)
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:46 PM
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6. There is no way to explain a two-step issue to a half-wit.
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 03:47 PM by HereSince1628
We needn't even bother try.

The important thing is that the DC-denisons, particularly politicos, journos, and lawyers get it.
That means Congressional hearings, media white-papers/editorials, and ABA and law school seminars on the role of US Attorneys.

The bonfire that's burning will go out in a few weeks but law texts will use it as an example of how not to run a Department of Justice for generations.

This is not your average scandal anymore.






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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:50 PM
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7. With all due respect
It's you who does not understand that the freepers don't really care. Just like they don't really care about the reality of this war, it's all about their loyalty to Bush.

The freepers are more loyal to Bush then they will ever be to this country, and in my humble opinion deserve the fate of all traitors!
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Goat or Panic Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:52 PM
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8. Simply Put
These prosecutors were asked to do unethical things, they refused
They were then fired.

The point isn't that they were fired, it's that they were asked to do unethical things.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 04:20 PM
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9. It's easier for them to regurgitate the talking points that they hear
from Bushco, Rush, Hannity and others than it is to think for themselves. That's the only reason I can think of. It's just more of their willfull ignorance.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 04:25 PM
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10. there is an excuse.. cover up "HookerGate" $21,000,000 HLS dept LIMO service trucking elected
Republican officials and maybe CIA to a Poker game whore house in of all places the WaterGate apts..??

the Corporate Media theater has managed to keep this quiet...

their is so much ..just Google;HookerGate
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 04:27 PM
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11. Simply put
Presidents can dismiss US Attorneys if they wish, but not under ANY circumstance and CERTAINLY NOT to avoid having the US Attorney investigate a matter with political implications involving the President or his political cronies.

That's the problem. Those attorneys were targeted because they were investigating matters involving Bush and his buddies.

Dismissing them to curtail or interfere with their investigation of crimes or wrong-doing is what will BURN Gonzalez and Bush.

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