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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:17 PM
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I am a straight older married guy and don't give a damn about
who is getting married. I think that everyone should be able to do what they want to do, marriage wise, as long as it doesn't include matching juvenile kids with adults. I don't know if that came out correctly, but what I mean is, it's not my job to stick my nose into what someone else feels comfortable with if they are consenting adults.

Peace
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:20 PM
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1. Thank you so much.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:30 PM
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2. I'm a straight older single gal, and I feel exactly the same way
I have enough problems of my own not to be worried about anyone else's personal life. People should be free to live their lives however they choose so long as it doesn't impact my rights and privileges. I have yet to understand how two same sex people getting married would harm me in any way.

Let them be happy.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:24 PM
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19. Ditto n/t
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:46 PM
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23. ditto! n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:57 PM
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26. Another ditto! n/t
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:02 PM
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28. Ditto too...
why the fuck would I care, DAMN IT!
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:31 PM
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3. Straight single woman here, feel the same way. nt
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:34 PM
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4. Married to a guy and we're both tired of hearing any of it. Let people marry who they want. We did.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:36 PM
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5. i'm an older straight married woman
and i agree.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:36 PM
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6. Peace back
And well said.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:45 PM
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7. Another poster pointed out that prop 8 abridges everyone's rights.
Fundamentally, you don't have the right to marry the person of your choosing. You have the right to marry the person of your choosing, provided the neighbors approve of your choice.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:48 PM
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8. I'm a straight single white female and I don't think it's any of my business
who someone wants to marry.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:53 PM
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9. Hmm.
How many were here for the disgusting "Larry Craig" threads here on DU?

This place was an absolute pig-sty of hatred toward gay men for over a week here after that all came down. It's easy for straight people to say how much they support the Gay Community, but I saw an ugly, bitter, hypocritical homophobia emanating from this board that was absolutely pathetic. And this was from people that I never thought in a million years would talk, or act like that.

So you'll forgive a lot of people if they take your sentiments with a grain of salt, I'm sure.

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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:34 PM
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10. I think what you saw or thought you saw was the
rock throwing at a hypocrite of the nth order, not a gay cause he's gay bashing. Face it, if you're gay and you try to put the image out that you are a straight married republican representative of all family values and you get caught trying to pick up a person of your own sex for a sexual tryst, you should be outed for stupidity and hypocrisy (gaud I hope I spelled that right).

I could have been Mark Foley, David Vitters, Larry Craig, sheesh. I'll say it again. It does not bother me one bit if you want to marry or civilly join with a person that you feel will be your life partner no matter what gender they are. All this shizit about it being wrong is just a way for the insurance companies to screw you out of benefits and to treat you like a 2nd class citizen. I do not agree with that, at all.

Peace
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:22 PM
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18. Actually, that isn't true. What we saw was a community of haters
who felt that any person that they disagreed with or whose behavior they abhorred was 'gay'. Jeff Gannon anyone?

Any Republican who committed any type of 'transgression' was immediately blamed 'queer'.

As a straight, married, middle aged mom of three, I found it disgusting. It helped me to flush out my ignore list.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:59 AM
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30. Amen sister...
:hi:
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:58 AM
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29. No...what we saw was absolute hyposcrisy on the DU end.
And that very first line you used in your first sentence was used as the chosen line to justify all of it.

You can't just cherry pick who you feel like defending, with this type of issue. And you can justify your/our double standard by trying to hide behind calling "hypocrisy" on the people the we were stepping on at the time, all you want. It doesn't change the matter one little bit. It was still blatant hypocrisy on our end, and shows a complete lack of character.

Gay bashing, jokes about gay men, telling people that disagree with your position to "go tap your foot in a mens room", all of this crap just snowballed into an absolute shit storm of hatred, and we saw a side of DU that I never want to see again. And the smell lingered for months here.

What you do to the least of my brothers you also do to me. Remember that little line because its true.

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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:04 AM
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31. Just for your consideration
Acceptance of gays and Gay Marriage

Disdain for anonymous sex in a filthy stinky public bathroom.

Is it OK to hold them as separate issues?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:07 AM
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32. Disdain that quickly turned into blanket gay bashing.
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 11:17 AM by tjwash
A man that has been forced by straight society to get shoved so deeply in the closet to, in your words, "resort to sex in a filthy stinky bathroom" for fear of straight peoples repercussions against him and his family.

So this guy is undeserving of any type empathy or any consideration whatsoever? Or he is just fair game because he is the right type of gay man to bash?

For your consideration...
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wartrace Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:54 PM
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11. I'm a straight old guy who doesn't believe in marriage at all.
HOWEVER, if a couple of fools straight or gay want to get married who am I to object? I want people to live the way they want to. It's called freedom. We have to learn to accept freedom again in America. I am sick & tired of people trying to control others lives.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:59 PM
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12. Oh hon, after two divorces I'm with you all the way on this. On
the other hand I would say if gays want to be married then they should be able to. Why should they not have to go through the hell I did by being married....
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wartrace Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:05 PM
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14. Personally I don't believe in contractual love.
If others do, why not let them? None of my business.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:16 PM
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16. I'm a straight old woman who doesn't really believe in marriage either.
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 09:17 PM by rebel with a cause
not for me anyway. I give condolences to people who are marrying and congratulations to those divorcing. ;)

But whoever wants to go into the institutional state of marriage can do so without my objection. They probably won't get my blessings (no body really does), but they won't get my condemnations either. As long it does no hard to others, I see no reason for there to be an objection. As they say, it is a free country. In fact this should be a moral question (for those who object due to personal religious beliefs) and not a legal question. In other words, they can claim to object due to moral beliefs but not legally object. Like they can consider it a sin if they want to but not a crime. Does that make sense?

My kids are both ready to settle down, but I don't know they really want to marry. They saw too much when their father and I was married, and what goes on with him and his present wife. Sometimes marriage is a hard knock life. :9
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wartrace Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:41 PM
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22. Marriage is a fine institution.
If you feel a need to be institutionalized.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:00 PM
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27. LOL!
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:01 PM
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13. Hear, hear....
...the most vociferous of the anti-gay marriage issue are probably confused about their own orientation.
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:24 PM
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15. Why not? How come only the straights get to be miserable?
If gays insist on being as miserable as the rest of us then let em.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:19 PM
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17. It takes nothing away from anyone to allow gays to marry
I don't understand why would anyone would care.
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123infinity Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:26 PM
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20. I've noticed the last few days...the only people who disagree with you on this are
knuckledragging fundamentalist assholes. You may have noticed that too. :D
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:28 PM
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21. I'm a straight, older guy who thinks everyone should have the opportunity to experience ...
... the joys of divorce. :dunce:

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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:50 PM
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25. being a straight older gal I've always felt that we shouldn't be the only ones to
finance the legal system ;-)
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:50 PM
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24. well said!! (and much nicer than my earlier post) kick! nt
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