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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:06 AM
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Kirby on gay marriage: It's official - I don't care
For those of you not familiar with Robert Kirby, you may be familiar with his good friend and political cartoonist, Pat Bagley. Robert Kirby writes for the Salt Lake Tribune and is a member of the LDS church.


Kirby on gay marriage: It's official - I don't care


Tribune Columnist
Article Last Updated: 10/24/2008 09:12:18 PM MDT


A couple of years ago, I wrote a column in which I announced my official position on gay marriage. Basically, I don't care.

Not only do I not care if gays get married, it is none of my business. As a flaming heterosexual, it's a full-time job for me just to keep my thoughts clean in church. I don't have the energy to fret about somebody else's libido.

The column must have resurfaced on the Internet. I'm getting mail again telling me what a failure I am as a Mormon because I'm not solidly behind Proposition 8. As I understand it, the California ballot item would prevent the domestication of homosexuals. Or something like that.
Here are just a few of the attempts to get me to see reason.

"Are you a member or not? Do you want gays to get married in the temple? Please follow the brotheren's {sic} council {sic} on Proposition 8. This is a important gospel principal {sic}." G., e-mail.

"No unclean thing can enter the house of the Lord. Gays are unclean because of the Scriptures. You have to be hot or cold about it or the Lord will spat you out." T., e-mail.
"Were you listening in church when the letter was read from the First Presidency about supporting proposition eight?" R.Y., e-mail.
"Get with Prop 8 or your {sic} a homo." Anonymous, letter.

Hard as it is to counter such brilliant logic, my position hasn't changed. The only serious concern I have about gays getting married is that they'll register someplace pricey.

The church is serious about the sanctity of marriage. I get that. But aren't more potentially "dangerous" marriages already being performed out there?

For example, I hear in church all the time about marriage being ordained of God. But I also hear about how the glory of God is intelligence.

Shouldn't it be against the law for stupid people to get married? What's more harmful to society - two well-dressed men getting married and settling down, or two idiots tying the knot and cranking out any number of additional idiots?

MORE >>>>

http://www.sltrib.com/lds/ci_10798657

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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:09 AM
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1. OMFG, I put him right up there with Hiassen and Barry!
This dude can WRITE, makes his point with wit and humor, AND has his shit together!

Thanks for this - I'm going to sign up with the SL Trib just to get his columns. :bounce:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:15 AM
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3. You bet! You may enjoy some of his books as well - I got mine signed!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:12 AM
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2. "Shouldn't it be against the law for stupid people to get married?"
:evilgrin: :thumbsup:


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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:21 AM
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5. Hehehe!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:15 AM
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4. "The only serious concern I have about gays getting married
Edited on Sat Oct-25-08 11:16 AM by cliffordu
is that they'll register someplace pricey"



:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:







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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:54 AM
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9. Yup, that was the best line in a uniformly hilarious article.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:08 PM
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14. That line made me LOL!!
:rofl:
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:35 AM
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6. Put a stop to gay sex........
Let them get married?

That is, I swear, one of the funniest and truest things I've read in a while. What a hoot.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:59 AM
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12. I just about spit my coffee out when I read that line!
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plaintiff Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:50 AM
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7. What a terrific piece!
Edited on Sat Oct-25-08 11:55 AM by plaintiff
:D
:kick: & Rec

edit...by the way the comments after are overwhelmingly supportive!
:toast:
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:52 AM
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8. I get it but....
.... you'd think having been subjected himself to that degree of stupidity and coercion that he WOULD care big-time.

Why would progressive people be *indifferent* on this issue? If having the option to legally marry makes some gay people happy... and there is no logical down side to that....why shouldn't Kirby be * enthusiastic * about marriage equality?
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plaintiff Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:57 AM
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10. He's just saying he has no objections. Which for a Mormon is huge.
I "don't care" (ha) if he's not enthusiastic, accepting is good enuf fer me. :D
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:59 AM
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11. precisely
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:04 PM
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13. brilliant n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:21 PM
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15. If he thinks he got hate mail before!
Bravo, Kirby!

He signed my book "Satan likes you best". :rofl:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 02:48 PM
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16. kickety
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 06:02 PM
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17. .
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 06:05 PM
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18. K&R
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