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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:38 AM
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Pathetic Ashley Todd video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxhshrCssc&feature=channel

She is the perfect poster child for the Republican Party. Just substitute the poster for the US. In their eyes, it is perfect.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:45 AM
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1. OK, it is indeed pathetic.
Edited on Sat Oct-25-08 08:50 AM by BerryBush
But it's also a little depressing to see the angry comments posted about her, because about 99% of them seem to be calling her a "fat bitch" or a "fat whore."

Should people feel free to be repulsed by what she did and to say so? Sure. But why does it have to be with sexist, weight-ist pejoratives?

What if she were thin? Would that make what she did any better?

Edit: I should add, anti-gay pejoratives, too. Stuff like "Are you gonna turn prison gay?" and "They're gonna love you in the general population."

Sheesh, I thought we were supposed to be better than comments like that--and comments like "Man the harpoons" and "Who is going to want to f that?" and "B for BACKFAT" and "Typical republican/nazi woman- obese, ugly, stupid and from what I heard, literally REEKS of cat piss and period." That's the kind of garbage THEY say to US.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:49 AM
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2. Sadly, it's human nature to focus on the non-ideal of people we don't like.
People who are overweight whom I like - are still beautiful but carrying a little extra weight.

People who are overweight whom I do NOT like - are FAT and pathetic.

It's human nature to "pile on." :shrug:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:53 AM
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4. I dare you to read those remarks
and see how many of them sound human.

On the contrary. They give you the feeling that if those people ever ran into Ashley as a group, they'd grab her, hold her down and do something much, much worse to her than she claimed was done to her. Maybe carve "FAT UGLY LYING BITCH" into her face with a razor as part of it.

And that scares me a bit. I'd like to think that's not us.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:56 AM
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7. Oh come on into REALITY? This is a diverse message board and people post more freely
than they would if the person in question was standing among them in "real time."

It's human nature to magnify the faults of people we don't like.

That's REALITY, not anything worth melting down over. :shrug:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:59 AM
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9. I'm not melting down.
Just making a comment.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:51 AM
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3. I do not delve into such things....
I refer to her as a race-baiting republican bitch. No need to get into her fatness.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:53 AM
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5. O.K., as you know, you're completely exaggerating saying
"about 99%" of the posts about her include comments about her weight.

Her appearance is of course irrelevant.

But try to at least be a little honest in your analysis of DU's reaction.

Nowhere near 99 percent of the comments include mention of her physical characteristics.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:03 AM
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12. I don't think so. Read them all.
The lowest I'd go is maybe 80%.

And there's lots of use of the C-word in there, too.

And I am not analyzing DU's reaction at all, rather the reactions of the commenters on YouTube.

When I say "I would like to think 'we' are better than that," "we" refers to anyone who finds what she did reprehensible. If someone finds what she did reprehensible, but is so angry about it that one has to call her a fat ugly effing whore bitch with a smelly fat c-word, I don't see how that makes one a whole lot better than her. Although at least you're confining your nastiness to words rather than deeds that way.

There are a million ways to ridicule her epic fail without that. To me, the gold comment is quoting her: ""I used a straight edge with the razor tip ruler to get that nice clean edge and that nice clean line." Yeah, I'm sure she did!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:11 AM
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19. Oh yea, if you're talking about YouTube, that place
is a cesspool of bigotry and sexism and racism.

I thought you were arguing 99 percent of the comments on DU included mention of her weight/name-calling.

Sorry for misinterpreting. :)
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:03 AM
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11. The comments, however disgusting, are her punishment.
Does the punishment fit the crime? Is calling her 'fat' worse that what she did?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:06 AM
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14. I thought the law was in charge of punishing her for what she did.
And if it's going to be OK for all of us to "punish" anyone for what they did that disgusts us, just take a look at some of those scary videos of people at McCain-Palin rallies and think about how some of them might see fit to "punish" anyone who voted for Barack Obama.

I'm just saying--it cuts both ways.
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:23 AM
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20. What would have more impact on you?
To pay a fine and get probation, or to be held up to society as a pariah?
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:04 AM
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13. I think all this is pretty sad.
She's obviously mentally unbalanced and couldn't see the ugly consequences of what she did.

I'm glad that all this thing was cleared so fast by the cops because otherwise it

would have been catastrophic.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:55 AM
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6. She probably used that mirror behind her to scratch the B into her cheek
Sorry, but I think she's to be pitied.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:58 AM
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8. Something I noticed in this video the other day. Make it full screen and check out the
"R" in Registration on the poster. The top part of the R looks like the "B" she carved in her face.


There's another pathetic video of her floating around here on DU where she accuses a janitor at Queens College
(Queens, NY) of taking down her signs.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:01 AM
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10. Best comment:
"This didn't help me make posters at ALL!!"
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:08 AM
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17. Now see? THAT was funny!
And the fact that her poster looks like it was made by a third grader is funny! (Not meaning to insult third graders!) Yet she makes this video and puts it up on YouTube like she's some poster-making expert! Now THAT is the humor here! That's what I'm saying.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:06 AM
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22. My wife is a third grade teacher
and she says that her third graders make better posters than that!!!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:44 AM
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23. My seven-year-old nephew in Cub Scouts...
has made much better posters than that.

What's really amazing is that she felt she needed to make an instructional video on how to produce... that. Freepers must find construction paper and ink pens to be mysterious and fascinating.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:09 AM
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18. LOL! nt
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:08 AM
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15. Followup video where she accuses the MEAN BLACK JANITOR of destroying her work:
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:48 AM
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24. Oh, my god. I ALMOST feel sorry for her.
This woman is obviously crazier than a soup sandwich.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:08 AM
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16. And if our encouraging poster doesn't work . . .
We'll make up a fun story about violence with all sorts of overt racial messages!
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:30 AM
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21. LOL!
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