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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:38 AM
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Nouriel Roubini issued an ALERT at 01:00 GMT this morning:
From the special newsletter entitled "Alert: Nouriel Roubini: The world is at severe risk of a global systemic financial meltdown and a severe global depression" concludes thus:

... At this point severe damage is done and one cannot rule out a systemic collapse and a global depression. It will take a significant change in leadership of economic policy and very radical, coordinated policy actions among all advanced and emerging market economies to avoid this economic and financial disaster. Urgent and immediate necessary actions that need to be done globally (with some variants across countries depending on the severity of the problem and the overall resources available to the sovereigns) include:

* another rapid round of policy rate cuts of the order of at least 150 basis points on average globally;
* a temporary blanket guarantee of all deposits while a triage between insolvent financial institutions that need to be shut down and distressed but solvent institutions that need to be partially nationalized with injections of public capital is made;
* a rapid reduction of the debt burden of insolvent households preceded by a temporary freeze on all foreclosures;
* massive and unlimited provision of liquidity to solvent financial institutions;
* public provision of credit to the solvent parts of the corporate sector to avoid a short-term debt refinancing crisis for solvent but illiquid corporations and small businesses;
* a massive direct government fiscal stimulus packages that includes public works, infrastructure spending, unemployment benefits, tax rebates to lower income households and provision of grants to strapped and crunched state and local government;
* a rapid resolution of the banking problems via triage, public recapitalization of financial institutions and reduction of the debt burden of distressed households and borrowers;
* an agreement between lender and creditor countries running current account surpluses and borrowing, and debtor countries running current account deficits to maintain an orderly financing of deficits and a recycling of the surpluses of creditors to avoid a disorderly adjustment of such imbalances.

At this point anything short of these radical and coordinated actions may lead to a market crash, a global systemic financial meltdown and to a global depression. The time to act is now as all the policy officials of the world are meeting this weekend in Washington at the IMF and World Bank annual meetings.

***

Read more of Nouriel's views on the current economic situation on Nouriel Roubini's Global EconoMonitor at http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini.


Note: Nowhere does this newsletter say it is copyright material, so I guess more could be reproduced here. Mr. Roubini's site, Global Economic Monitor, offers free subscription, but does require the acceptance of a fairly lengthy contract.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:39 AM
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1. CNN I is talking of this now
here is where we are going

And today the Dow Jones needs NOT open for business
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:43 AM
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2. I'm watching CNBC...
Phew! Can't sleep.

Hi Ghost and Nadin and whoever else is out there, watching the neocon empire implode and crumble before our eyes... :hi:




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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:45 AM
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5. That we are.... that we are
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:54 AM
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22. I slept for an hour and woke up crying.
I know this is worse than 9/11. Even Katrina. This is a tsunami. I have no idea who or what that I cherish will be swept away.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:46 AM
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6. We certainly don't need open pieholes (due 14:00 GMT according to Reuters).
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 02:48 AM by Ghost Dog
At this point "confidence-restoring measures" are required first; global practical effective solvency-protection (rendering "liquidity truly "liquid", rather than "frozen" or "clogged-up") measures to immediately follow, imho.

Dealers in Asia are saying "Nobody is buying (in Stock Markets)". So, plunging prices are not so much reflecting actual trades, I guess, just rapidly falling offer prices: surely a sign of pure panic.

Some of the speed of this will surely get blamed on modern communications systems and methods...

:hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:59 AM
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11. listening CNN I... the analyst on the air right now
is talking the way roubini is

His name is Benjamin
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:34 AM
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16. when will people figure out they need to throw out th gambling addicts prohibit Derivatives regulate
REGULATE REGULATE REGULATE.. TAX SPECULATION UP THE WAZOOO
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:57 AM
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23. Used to be sliding capital gains.
The longer you held the stock, the less tax you paid on it. Of course, in that climate, stocks needed to pay dividends. Bigger dividends, smaller CEO salaries and bonuses.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 05:42 PM
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29. Aha! So that's what happened to dividends!
I remember dividends. Grandpa and I would look at them as we went over stocks with his copy of Barron's spread out on his dining room table down in Florida.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:44 AM
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3. Looks like a plan to me.
Can't work any worse than what we've been trying.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:45 AM
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4. Japan is proposing an international bailout plan
we will see nationalization on a mass scale before long
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:50 AM
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7. Not exactly.
Japan wants to set up a fund to allow certain emerging markets to borrow money from countries which hold a current surplus.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:51 AM
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8. Bush and Cheney must resign. Now.
They are destroying the world.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:55 AM
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9. Wont stop it... this is panic
they need to close markets for a day or two...


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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:57 AM
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10. They've already lost the confidence of most of their party loyals.
Not to mention their base: the famous "have mores".

Their reign is over. I can hear it in the way other world leaders speak about this administration now.

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:45 AM
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18. when people have no confidence or trust in the leaders
it becomes "every person for themselves" and chaos reigns

heckava job bushie!
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 05:35 PM
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28. It's a good thing. The neocon and theocon games have become a threat to global economic stability.
King George the W. is dead.

Long live the man of the people who emphasizes, Yes, WE can, over and over and over again.




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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:02 AM
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12. That would certainly be a significantly useful gesture.
Resign and surrender to the relevant authorities (becoming the first of many), I'd add...
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:28 AM
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14. INDITE IMPEACH CONVICT IMPRISON to the maximum allowed by the law
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:21 AM
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24. sorry, Nancy hasn't seen anything worth impeaching them for
:banghead:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:35 AM
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26. Never forget REPARATIONS and for good measure PUNITIVE DAMAGES. nt
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:25 AM
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13. sounds alot like Obama's program.. if there is a global meating i bet W is UN-INVITED
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 03:37 AM by sam sarrha
AND INVITE OBAMA
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:29 AM
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15. This will happen at the Secretary\head of portfolio level
that is one way to not invite Bush, and given he signed the transition EO today... that means that Obama's and McCain's econ advisors are invited, but not voting voices, mostly
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:37 AM
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17. It's common sense. And he's right, it's long overdue.
There is no choice. What are they waiting for? What's the indecision about? Where is there an alternative to consider? If doing nothing would work, it would've worked by last winter. They already sat on their hands for a year. They already pumped money everywhere. That doesn't work.

Propping up the base of this, will work. Should've been done before it became a crisis, b/c if the experts couldn't see it coming, a lot of others did. Again, it was common sense.

I hope the G7 today gets a clue and listens to Roubini before it gets a lot more messed up.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:54 AM
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19. found a graph for the Dow - 1990 through 1999
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:24 AM
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20. The IMF will be forced to get back to its traditional role
and stop promoting the failed Washington consensus policies. Adios Friedman.
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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:38 AM
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21. If McCain steals the election, we're doomed...
but we need Obama in there NOW, not starting in January!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:25 AM
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25. Has he made any appearance anywhere on TV???
I have been reading his views for a while now and I agree completely with him. I do not understand why no country seems to be listening to him when he should be at the meetings this weekend! He should be taking the idiot**'s place! This is so very frustrating!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:38 AM
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27. IIRC, he was on the Charlie Rose Show a couple of weeks ago.
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