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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:54 AM
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The 'ACORN Fraud' (voter registration) is the Reich's goal line stand
and they will use it to petition the Supreme Court to overturn the election if the vote plays out as the current trajectory indicates.

They have done the groundwork over the last few years to create the false meme of widespread voter fraud. The purpose of the current ACORN thrust is 1) to purge as many Dem leaning voters as possible and 2) setting up for petitioning the Supreme Court on the basis of a widespread voter registration conspiracy that throws the election (in a few key states of course) into question.

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:58 AM
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1. If they do that, the press will turn against them and there will be mass civil unrest
That's why they're not going to do it.

They'd much rather try to poach Obama from within (and they will try).
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:01 PM
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5. "there will be mass civil unrest" MAY be EXACTLY what they want.
So Bush has an excuse to declare martial law... I hope this isn't true, but Bushco has
done nothing to date to suggest otherwise.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:23 PM
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7. My friend, when we're all in the Gulag, who is going to provide the tax money for their bills?
They're just going to steal it all? They'll need a lot more than Blackwater to do it (and at that, Blackwater is made up by former military and police with consciences). Who will mend their shirts? Drive their cars? There aren't enough sociopaths in the world to force people to do it at gun point.

As I said in another post recently, my father was a conspiracy theorist who constantly believed (till his death) that "the commies" were just about to take over and declare martial law. He thought Nelson Rockefeller would become President and suspend the Constitution. He saw "clear signs" of it all the time (when Rockefeller became VP, he went into his Oregon hideaway for a year). But none of it happened. Unfortunately, the more extreme conspiracy folk cloud the issue and obscure the REAL dangers of the Bush regime -- they absolutely intend to destroy our economy so a globalist system can take its place, they definitely can and will do lots of awful things but they aren't the Fourth Reich. We won't be strong enough for them to bother with once we're done, for one thing.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:00 AM
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2. I Was Just Going To ASK About This... I Watch C-Span Every Morning And
have been hearing people call in about OBAMA and his ties to ACORN! I just printed out something from "davidswanson's" journal here, right this minute, but I admit I'm NOT UP on the fall out.

I need to read his comments, but maybe someone can give me a synopsis regarding it.

thanks!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:17 AM
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3. great interview on Fresh Air yesterday on this topic - Acorn and the Justice
Dept. But most folk/prosecutors found little or NO voter fraud. It's rare and a misdemeanor at best from what I heard.


And aren't there a lot of lawyers working to make sure this doesn't happen?



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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:36 AM
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4. That's what has been bouncing around the right echo chamber
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 11:37 AM by Tinksrival
and it's getting louder....bleeding into the mainstream. This was in my mailbox this morning:

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2375

snip>>>>

It’s time to shut down ACORN, work against voter fraud
By Ross Balano, Midwest Voices Columnist 2008

Federal authorities are investigating the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, otherwise known as ACORN, in at least ten states including Missouri.

Thousands of fraudulent voter registrations have surfaced after having been submitted by ACORN. In some parts of Ohio, over half of the registrations submitted by ACORN are at least questionable. ACORN even admits that it is unable to insure there is no fraud. In the Kansas City area, one name, Monica Ray, registered 20 times.

It is time to put a stop to ACORN and restore some integrity to the election process.

So now we know what a “community organizer” is. ACORN is a left wing organization that Barack Obama used to work with. They pay people to solicit voter registrations and quotas must be met. This is a formula for fraud. The only thing that matters is how many registrations are submitted, not how authentic they are.

snip>>>>>

Groups like ACORN are trying to steal the election. They are threatening to turn the whole process into a joke and action must be taken immediately.

ACORN and other groups like them must be shut down.

Photo ID should be required of all voters. Give them out for free. Come to the homes of those who cannot get out to get one. Make them an ID on the spot. Provide rides for anyone who needs one to get to the polls. But no ID, no vote.

Eliminate early voting. Eliminate mail in voting. Eliminate absentee voting except for the military and special cases. The constitution is specific about when and how the election should be held. Let’s get back to the basics and restore integrity to the election.

snip>>>>>>






Acorn has been demonized...The game is afoot. Are we ready?
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:03 PM
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6. What I know about ACORN
I have a close friend who was the lead organizer for ACORN locally during the 2004 election. Like any organizations, there are good managers and not-so-good managers. I believe that my friend was one of the best.

He hired people to register voters in front of supermarkets and Wal-Mart stores in low-income neighborhoods. The workers were paid hourly and were expected to meet certain expectations as far as registration quotas, but they were not paid "by the piece" so to speak. In other words, if it became obvious that someone was sitting outside a store and not producing new voter registrations after a few days when someone else could go to the same location and produce new registrations, then the non-producer was fired.

He also hired people to verify the voter registrations as they came in. I believe that he had to verify about 10% of all registrations turned in, but he actually did a higher percentage. The phoners would call the person listed on the card to make sure that the info was accurate and that the person had actually consented to being registered to vote. Out of some 20,000 voter registrations done through that office, he found only one person who had turned in some suspicious cards. He immediately notified the local board of elections office, who helped him to locate all of the voter registration cards submitted by that one worker. ACORN then called all of those voters to verify their registrations were correct.

There were some isolated problems across the country regarding ACORN voter registrations. Any company or organization will have some people who try to get away with something. As long as there are systems in place to deal with anticipated problems, these issues should be minimal. I can't think of any company or organization out there who hasn't had to deal with issues of employee fraud and ACORN is no different. It isn't whether or not it is going to happen, because it is going to happen, it is how these issues are handled when they arise.
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