We have suffered the 3 greatest disasters of our generation under Republican rule.

[ehrnst]

I can't seem to get this through the heads of my family members.

9/11 - "Who could have seen that coming."

Post-Katrina fiasco - "Those people should have gotten out when they had a chance"

Mortgage crisis, now Wall Street meltdown - "I still have my home and my credit cards. It's just rich people losing money."

All of these occurred on the Bush watch. Why on earth is anyone thinking life under McCain is going to be any different????

[lovuian]

1. yep

they are traitors

[2speak]

2. Unpatriotic bastids

[Oregone]

3. Im not sure how 9/11 qualifies....

In retrospect, if one evaluates the direct financial and life toll of the damage, as well as the infrastructure toll, was it really that big of a disaster? Much of the harm was in perception of the event, as well as how Congress & the Bush administration used it.

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[Jack Rabbit]

7. Whose plans?

[camio]

9. WHOSE plans? nt

[Oregone]

12. Thats not the point. Im saying it wasn't a massive disaster in terms of lives and the economy...

Perception of it was worse, as well as how it was used. The Bush admin made a mountain out of a molehill, so as to speak without completely forgetting the damage.

Come on...5X the number of people are killed annually by drunk drivers. Yet we don't create a department of Homeland Sober Driver

[Lasher]

4. And lied us into the invasion of Iraq

"Weapons of mass destruction program related activites."

[napoleon_in_rags]

5. But...Bill Clintons penis....

I think most of them know you are right at this point, but they are still managing to blame Bill Clinton for fictional national disasters enough so that they can justify supporting McCain. That's what trips me out.

[screembloodymurder]

10. Yes, you forgot the moral disaster.

The shadow of Bill Clinton's penis still hangs over the land. I think I recognized it in one of McCain's commercials.

:crazy:

[patrice]

8. 4. We invaded and are trying to steal an entire sovereign nation that did not attack the U.S.

[Hidden Stillness]

11. Ordinary Republican "Treatment" of the Whole Economy, is a Disaster

I think as long as people fall for the "framing," and present the current situation as a "new" "crisis" involving several "industries" or "markets"--such as mortgage, credit, investment banking, etc.--then you not only lose the larger sense of the problem, but lose the fact that this is long-term, and not at all recent. Here in the Midwest and also Northeast, we have been suffering from a deep recession, with increasing unemployment and stagnant and falling wages, for many years, since Bill Clinton's NAFTA/GATT, and worsening since, and no one has helped us; we no longer have manufacturing/union jobs, we have underpaid, no-benefit sales/cashier jobs.

The larger trend under Republican rule--which they always, always do!--is to kill unions and consumer protections, outsource, kill wage growth, lower the kinds of taxes that will benefit only rich people to have lowered (income, capital gains, luxury, stock dividend, etc.) and increase the kinds of taxes that will hurt/kill middle class and poor people (sales tax, property, payroll, etc.). They also change laws and regulations so that wealth/income is more and more concentrated, a smaller and smaller percentage of the population owns and controls a larger and larger percentage of the total National wealth (as now), CEO pay/bonuses/stocks, etc. are more and more out of line compared to the flat wages and cut benefits of those who do the work, etc., and the kinds of Government programs that help the middle class and poor, (Medicare/Medicaid/S-CHIP, anything that helps with the cost of health care; LIHEAP and other programs that help low-income people with home heating costs, etc.), are cut, and the programs that help only the rich, (corporate subsidies and tax cuts, bailouts, etc.) continue. All of this long-term redistribution of wealth--and debt--and total deregulation of one commercial system after another promoting nothing but crime and abuse, is the constant, time-after-time result of Republican rule.