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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:39 AM
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I couldn't even guess where to find this number so I'm looking for your guess
I was wondering, how much is the total tuition paid at accredited public Colleges and Universities in this country? I'm just wondering how much it would cost to simply make college (4 year degree) free for anyone who wanted to go and could pass the classes? I'm guessing it would be a lot less expensive than the bailout and in the long run would bring a lot more tax revenue back to the treasury over time than it cost.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:43 AM
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1. Can't do that - almost everyone goes to college on loans
the loan sharks won't sit by and let people get through college without paying that interest premium.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:45 AM
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3. Do dead sharks float or are they just eaten by other sharks?
Just wondering :shrug:
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:45 AM
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2. I dont know, but "back in the day"
NY city had a free university system. It was very competitive, then they had open enrollment and it was downhill from there. You may call me an elitist, but I don't think that every child needs to go to college. There should be no stigma for going into the trades or other non-academic careers.

I have met far too many college graduates who are complete air-heads. The public school system is a shambles and it appears that many coming out of college have the skills and knowledge of high school graduates of the past.

JMHO
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:59 AM
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8. I went to City College back in the 60s when it was free...
and it was tough to get in and even tougher to stay in. When it cost them money to educate you, not charge you money, they held some high standards. Ed koch, Colin Powell, and a lot of other poor kids besides me got a hell of an education on the city's nickel way back when.

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:56 AM
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4. What Good Is A College Education If There Are No Jobs Available When One Gets Out?......
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 10:42 AM by global1
My friends son and his group all went to college and now either have a go nowhere job that they had to take just to get some income to pay their loans or no job at all. As a result they have become disenchanted and unambitious and now only do just enough to eke by. It's a sad commentary on our youth - I know. But they were fed the B.S. that a college education would set them up for life. Most of the jobs in their fields have either dried up, were farmed out overseas or are very low paying.

It seems to me that we have to first stop the flow of jobs out of the country and create more jobs here before we can get the college engine going as you suggest.

Also - boomers that can't afford to retire are still in the job market as a result this impacts on the new college grads ability to get a job. Boomers are willing to work harder, longer and not get pay raises - just to keep their job to pay their bills.

This country is really screwed up in this area and now with this economic crisis - and boomers retirement funds disappearing overnight - its going to make things even tougher for everyone.

I always pondered that if people aren't able to be employed, aren't able to make a decent living because raises are drying up - how would they be able to afford all those things that the rich fat cats want us to buy. If we can't afford to buy their product - eventually it affects the rich fat cats. They have to cut back on manufacturing - which further impacts jobs - right up and down the line. I think that is the situation we have now gotten ourselves into.

Someone needs to create jobs to get the engine of our economy working again. I'm sure that a million people out of work - affects the tax base coming into the government. Certainly - unemployment insurance monies is an outlay for a period of time to sustain these people.

Creating jobs and making everyone a contributor to the U.S. tax base. Stopping the flow of money to unemployment insurance. People having more money to be able to buy product, go to restaurants, travel, entertain themselves - will create more jobs and the engine will fire itself back up. I really don't think this is rocket science - but this has to start with job creation.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:10 AM
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5. Retirees are still in the job market also.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:20 AM
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6. I'm really surprised by some of the responses.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:36 AM
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7. Which Responses And Why?........nt
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:18 PM
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9. Why?
I don't get it. Can you be a bit more specific?
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