What the MSM will never tell you

[randr]

and what we have missed throughout this debate.
Yesterday for the first time in my 60+ year life the people of this country had their collective voices heard by congress and the results could be monumental.
We saw the splitting apart of both parties along ideological lines. One side voting for the corrupt hands that have been feeding them and poisoning our entire political process for decades. One side voting with the common people who rose up their voices so loud they could no longer be ignored. The average American voter has had enough of the greed and corruption and will not stand for a bail out of Wall Street.
The choice between seminal socialism and basic capitalism had a show down in congress and the free market won.
The people of this country have suffered long enough while watching the rich grow rich beyond any ones imagination. Putting aside better health care, higher education, increase in living standards, and basic amenities of the good life in the USA, the average American citizen has been supporting this glut for too long. At last they found an issue that put them on their feet and at last a segment of the elected congress realized what was at hand.
The choice to side with the tax paying, hardworking, self sacrificing Americans against the corporate machine must have been very hard for many of these officals. We have seen a "perfect storm" of circumstances come together and expose the fact that the two parties have splits internally that expose a very important and neglected aspect of the evolution of the American experiment.
Again, the vote yesterday was the first time in my life that our elected representatives sided with the common people against the interests of the corporate greed that has ruled our lives. Neither party's power elite could hold the control they have wielded for all these long years.
We shall see in the ensuing days if this situation holds or the powerful pull in the reins and finalize this raid on our economy the basic principles of our nations capitalistic foundation.

[snappyturtle]

1. K&R! I, too, am 60 something! You're exactly correct in saying that

both parties have split along ideological lines. I find that reassuring and am certain, as you seem to be, that it was the people whose voices were finally heard and we didn't have to use corrupted voting machines to do it!

[peacetalksforall]

2. I really like what you wrote about the attention paid to us, but I can't take

sides. For so long now, I have watched the news and with the help of DU and how I was taught to think and reason - I was able to analyze and end up on target about what is really going on.

Yesterday I woke up blue and teary, because I knew I couldn't take sides - I didn't understand what was going on and if insight was on DU I didn't have time to read.

I absolutely didn't get anything through Sunday morning tv, but I couldn't watch it all.

I am trapped without knowledge. I can't take sides. I took one - firmly against the bailout. I thought I only had former trust of some of our leaders to rely on and even they split in taking sides.

So again, our leaders ears finally went up - they realized we were out here and were one half to three quarters awake, but they ended up playing politics with all of it again - why, because the Repubs are so rotten to the core that they are in partisan and dricky dicky play 100% of the time - and in this case, probably because the politics of all this 'crisis' originated in the White House. The Dems had to be on the defensive and the offensive.

The reality - we just don't know enough to take sides.

I repeat - good post.

[randr]

3. Thank you both for your thoughts

The more I think about this whole scam the more confused and pissed off I become.
So far, I have heard no one interview anyone or even discuss what the concerns are that average people are voicing to their representitives.

[dgibby]

4. Thank you ! K&R

I'm 62, and the last time I saw anything like this was in the late 60's and early 70's, but we had to take to the streets then. It's way past time for us to stand up and be counted, regardless of which side of this we're on.
I am sick of being run over by this (mis)administration. They manufacture a crisis, scare people to death, then tell us to let them fix it for us. This is getting old. Been there, done that, got that tee shirt. ENOUGH!!! I know we're in a mess, and I realize we need to take action, but I want it to be well thought out, not knee-jerk. I want research, I want Congress to study this, to compare other plans, to listen to independent, knowledgeable people who have gravitas, not partisan, political hacks that are in bed with Wall Street and BUSHCO. And above all, I want this to place the needs of the citizens above the greed of multi-national corporations and central banks. And I want REGULATIONS AND ACCOUNTABILITY!

Thanks for letting me rant all over your thread. I feel better now!:hi:

[bertman]

5. Here's to you old codger. From another old codger. You're right to a degree. A lot of them were

feeling the heat, which helped them to see the light, so to speak. However, as a new thread points out, the "ayes" were more heavily subsidized by the financial industry. I have a feeling that once a few calls are made and some promises of campaign funding get negotiated, we'll be seeing the conversion of the 13 "no's" that are needed for BIG MONEY to get what they want.

Frankly I was shocked that it failed. But glad that it did. As much as I hate to say it, my beloved Democratic party is becoming so corporatist that I am afraid I'll have to vote for Obama then jump ship-unless there's some major change in the Democratic leadership that I don't foresee.

[Jackpine Radical]

6. I think it was only partly an ideological split.

Some voted their consciences, many more voted as part of a strategy. Republicans rebelled out of fear for their jobs; while some Dems, in safe seats, voted for the bill on instructions from Pelosi.

No matter how they voted, I wouldn't let any of those Republicans into my ideal House, and some of the Dems who voted "Yea" did so as a sort of sacrifice to their colleagues, many of whom were acting in what they thought to be the best interest of the country.

[femrap]

7. Marx may have been correct....

I think we're seeing the seeds of destruction that Capitalism inherently carries. GREED SEEDS, that is.

The GREED BUBBLE is popping. Oops...splat. Thar it blows!