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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:14 AM
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Why Voters Thought Obama Won
TPM has the internals of the CNN poll of debate-watchers, which had Obama winning overall by a margin of 51-38. The poll suggests that Obama is opening up a gap on connectedness, while closing a gap on readiness.

Specifically, by a 62-32 margin, voters thought that Obama was “more in touch with the needs and problems of people like you”. This is a gap that has no doubt grown because of the financial crisis of recent days. But it also grew because Obama was actually speaking to middle class voters. Per the transcript, McCain never once mentioned the phrase “middle class” (Obama did so three times). And Obama’s eye contact was directly with the camera, i.e. the voters at home. McCain seemed to be speaking literally to the people in the room in Mississippi, but figuratively to the punditry. It is no surprise that a small majority of pundits seemed to have thought that McCain won, even when the polls indicated otherwise; the pundits were his target audience.

Something as simple as Obama mentioning that he’ll cut taxes for “95 percent of working families” is worth, I would guess, a point or so in the national polls. Obama had not been speaking enough about his middle class tax cut; there was some untapped potential there, and Obama may have gotten the message to sink in tonight

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Good reasons!!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:38 AM
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1. obama held his own
he did extremely well on the first few questions regarding the economy.

as it's been blathered about - foreign policy is suppose to be mccain's area of expertise. yet, for all his "expertise" he didn't show anything other than wanting to "surge surge surge". Yeah, he's been in alot of countries, but if all you take back from those visits is a "surge" mentality - it doesn't show that the visits were educational.

his foreign policy will be the same as bush's - surge first, and then make stuff up later.

over the past couple of months, we've seen mccain lurching all over the place, changing and spinning positions 2 or 3 times in the same day. More often than not, when he goes off half-cocked, his handlers have to come out and "explain" what he meant, and most times the explainations are worse than the original statements.

the problems we have today do not exist in their own little bubble - how one problem is handled effects other aspects of our country. For a visual image - think of a game of pool. When figuring out your shot, you not only have to consider which ball is your target, but also how it's movement will effect the other balls on the table. Hit one ball, and it effect one or more of the others on the table. Hit it correctly and you get the result you want, hit it wrong, the balls go bouncing every which way. McCain just bangs at the cue ball as hard as he can, and if he misses a shot...oh well..... This attitude may be fine if the problems he is attacking only effects himself - but as president, playing in this manner could result in a ball flying off the table and hitting us all in the face.

mccain said alot of words, but all I got out of it was more wealthy-fare taxcuts, veto pork and surge. So what's the difference between mccain and bush? I hope at some point in the next two debates one of the questions will be "How are your proposals different from bush?"
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:27 AM
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2. McCain stupidly said that Obama hasn't defined what he means by rich.
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 06:28 AM by Jim__
That was a slam dunk for Obama. He's said repeatedly, tax cuts for people making less than $250,000. McCain just served it up.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:30 AM
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3. The next debate is on economics and with this learning lesson, Obama is going to decimate
McCain.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:32 AM
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4. I'll be honest..
... McCain did better than I expected (my expectations were not that high) and Obama did worse than I expected.

Obama stuttered and seemed nervous a lot. He missed several opportunities to smack McCain down good, but then he took several opportunities as well.

Overall, I certainly think he won the debate, but I'm hoping he does better on the next one.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:42 AM
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5. As unappealing as his message is to us, McCain did get it across last night. nt
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