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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:01 PM Original message |
**********OFFICIAL BAILOUT HEARING THREAD #5********* |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh but Paulson knows how to fix it.......and understands all the issues |
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MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why, yes, Senator Brown |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. He couldn't even say it |
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MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:20 PM Original message |
Being part of the Bush regime means never having to say you're sorry n/t |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
50. I think they actually have shock collars on them |
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MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. And they LIKE it |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sen. Brown to Bernanke: Does Wall St. owe Main St. an apology? |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes, it's "an abstraction." Fuck 'em all, and the crooked deals they rode in on. nt |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thanks again, Shadow. You're on top of this. Appreciate it. nt |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. Herman "Munster" Paulson may blow a blood vessel |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. We can dream |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. That would be gratifying. Pools of flop sweat. I'd like to see that. nt |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. wonder who he discussed his ideas with? Wall Street? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. "excess complexities"...surround ourselves with smart people |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. 'Does Wall Street owe the American people an apology? ' |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. It was like they were physically incapable of saying it wasn't it? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
96. they do not care about the American people. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm trying to get it all straight. |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. Why, Lisa, you almost make it sound like what they did was wrong... |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. Paulson: It's too complex for you morans, trust us... |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. Paulson drags out the "market-based solutions" trope. As if he and others haven't |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Isn't having a hearing with Paulson and Bernanke like talking to the ... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. oooh...he's defining fairness to tax payers |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. i honestly can't believe what i'm hearing |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. "You'll have your transparency AFTER YOU GIVE US THE MONEY" yeah, we're |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. That's what it boils down to |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
98. criminals all of them, no way should they get our money. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. Bush claims he wants transparency all the time |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. I have a new meme: "Transparency shouldn't have a price tag." nt |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Exactly, they can't even explain why they couldn't do ANYTHING with less than 700B |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
23. Can you hear the quavers in their voices? |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I treasure their stuttering. Tells me this ain't going the way Paulson et al thought it would. nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
99. eff them, they are not going to get our money. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:15 PM Original message |
Clearly. n/t |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. that's a joke |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
100. no congressional oversight and not to be revealed to any court. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. Great urgency! Do it now! We NEED that money! |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. At this point I'm willing to take the risk call those bastards on their bluff!..n/t |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
69. Is it because they said the Iraq War would only cost $10 Billion - total? |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
28. So, it's a "great urgency" only to "calm the markets"?? LIES! |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:17 PM Original message |
Yep. Too bad most Americans are too goddamned stupid or apathetic |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
29. Go get them Casey |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. thread needs recs por favor |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. Casey asks about the "gaping hole" in Paulson's plan, that his plan doesn't |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
32. Bush ALWAYS claimed to want transparency and he ALWAYS LIED. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. Sign behind Bernake's head |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. Bernanke just now can hardly string 2 words together |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
36. Bernanke just now can hardly string 2 words together |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. Just got back - hey there's BOB CASEY!!! He's my senator. |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. Paulson wants to get lending going again, so that taxpayers, homeowner, etc., can |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Yep, that's the way I read it |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I guess so much of our economy is based on shuffling debt around, that to this bunch, |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
39. Casey's asking about executive compensation too... |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. Senile Bunning nailing Paulson re: student loans and credit card debt!! |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Oh, for fuck's sake, Bunning, it's not regulatory "problems," it's NO REGULATION that's the problem. |
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MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
44. Uh oh--Sen. Bunning actually READ something |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I get the feeling... |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. Yeah, that was in the Wash Times.... n/t |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. the answer's yes! |
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MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
46. OMG Bunning |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. "How long were you the CEO of Goldman-Sachs" |
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BraneMatter (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Speech defect??? |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
48. Repub. Jim Bunning |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Well, upthread I dissed Bunning a bit, but it's nice he's bringing in Paulson and |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Bunning has asked the best questions so far.... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Is that who that is? |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. For a Republican, Bunning gets this one, n/t |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. This is pretty much a bi-partisan beating for Paulson and Bernake |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
56. Bunning! "Frightful to the point of panic that I don't see a solution |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. Bunning "frightful to the point of panic that I don't see a solution in your plan" |
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MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. And that's why Dems and Repugs are both going after these guys |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. lots of plumbing analogies used today.........what are we? |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
104. Power play of the Republicans to swindle our tax money |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. Bernanke: "I can't predict the future and I've been wrong quite a few times" |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. Bunning is pretty tough |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
64. I see the markets are now 100-plus points down.... |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. DJIA -136...low of day...10,876. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. I just saw 156. |
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BraneMatter (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
66. 700 billion might not be enough??? |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
67. Bayh up |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Paulson: "If you impose punitive conditions this won't work |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. this after he's stated at least twice |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. They are nowhere close to making a convincing case |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. not even close |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Dare I say it? |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
70. Paulson insists on a 'bridge to nowhere' |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Yeah, he "failed upward," a rethug specialty, with this administration. nt |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. Corker (R-Tennessee) is making the point that Paulson's "plan" just doesn't |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. "If we were venture capitalists, we'd say - |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
101. and it was only three pages long |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
79. I had to go start dinner. How many times did they say "for the tax payers" while I was away? |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
81. Corker asks Bernanke about Bernanke's idea of "second liens." Does that mean |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. but don't worry, trust him, they're only worth a few cents on the dollar..... |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Ooooh, goody! Bargain basement bad paper! But when does it magically turn |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. lol! |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
102. About "second" liens.... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
82. so...what's the exit strategy? |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
83. Corker just told him straight up |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Bring us back a "fully baked concept" |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
86. I can't believe I'm saying this, but...GO CORKER!!!1! n/t |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. And wasn't Corker the one worried about going home on Friday? |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
90. Sen. Akaka up now. nt |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
92. I have to run for about half an hour folks. Someone else will have to make threads. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Thread 6 is up |
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bushmeister0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
93. If this works, if this works, If, If , If. |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
95. Those 2 bastards (Bernanke and Paulson) should be wired to a lie detector during this hearing. |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
97. Thread 6 here |
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