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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:25 PM
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Question for Happy Dancing LONESTARNOT :
Do you believe the story you are sitting on will actually be picked up by the MSM?

I ask because everytime we think there is a huge bombshell that the general public ought to care about, guess who doesn't cover it.

If that happens this time, I'll be extremely disappointed, so I want to set my own expectations on this before I find out. Right now, I'm approaching this with ever fiber of skepticism I have, not that the story will be potentially big, but that the MSM will bury it.

What say you, oh happy dancer?
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:27 PM
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1. What story?
n/t
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:28 PM
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2. This Story ===>
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:30 PM
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3. ie Watergate with Nixon and the DSM with Shrub
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:31 PM
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4. I'll state again: unless it is a sex scandal, the media will. not. care.
nt

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:36 PM
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6. a sex scandal? with mcain? eeewwwwww...
eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:38 PM
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7. even with Cindy, it would be a scandal. a shanda even...
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:40 PM
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9. Remember Vicki Iseman?
I guess the press didn't want to talk about it though. So maybe even a sex scandal won't be covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20/vicki-iseman-who-is-mcca_n_87692.html



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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:55 PM
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50. He is a serial cheater.
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 05:56 PM by Rockholm
Or is that a cereal eater?
Either way, he is a disaster waiting to happen.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:39 PM
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8. Hell, McCain already had a sex scandal.
You saw how long that was covered. I'm telling you that no story, no matter how big or how juicy, will be covered. Welcome to Mooselinni's America.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:43 PM
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12. What if Vicki Iseman is with child
and is about to file a paternity suit?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:36 PM
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37. she'd go to bed one night and wake up not pregnant...
that's how poppy's crew plays ball.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:38 PM
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41. More like she'd go to bed one night and not wake-up.
:scared:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:36 PM
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5. Hi Bernie!
Yes they will have no choice and in checking status this a.m. all I was told was "We're working on it."
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:41 PM
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11. In that case, I dance WITH YOU!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:48 PM
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13. "We're working on it."
That could mean that they find no truth to the rumor, whatever it may be. Sigh.

I hope this isn't like that Bush girlfriend's abortion story when, at the end of the day, she refused to talk about it.


I'll keep my fingers crossed for this to be real and major.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:50 PM
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14. yesterday it was "maybe tomorrow" or Friday.
Then it was "October".

Now its "we're working on it."

My prediction: big pile of nothing.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:52 PM
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15. Give it five business days n/t
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:56 PM
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18. Or, worse,
some big, hairy, Rovian trick like the one in 2004 that led to Dan Rather's fall from grace.

Hope we're both wrong!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:00 PM
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21. Thank you for your sanity and caution.
The example you provided could not make it any clearer.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:47 PM
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28. Or even worse...
...like the Rove indictment.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:42 PM
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42. imho
nothing more than attention seeking from du'ers.:cry:
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:39 PM
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47. IMHO...Hallucinations from a poll panicked Du'er
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:59 PM
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20. don't ya wonder what she got either paid or threatened with? nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:20 PM
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31. Oh pleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze! Not a fucking rumor!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:25 PM
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33. Until something materializes
that's all any of this is, rumor and speculation.

I want there to be something real here. I hope you are right.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:45 PM
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49. It's got a ways to go to qualify for "rumor"
Right now there isn't even that much.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:52 PM
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16. I trust you, lonestarnot. Don't let us down!!!!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:21 PM
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32. I do not intend to!
Waiting and watching!
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:07 PM
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22. lonestarnot
Did you say in the other thread: "This will make his fucking head explode?"
That possibility is worth sticking around for!
Is there a Larry Flynt connection here?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:12 PM
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29. >sigh< I'll wait until I hear the string section start before dancing.
My patented Schadenfreude Dance will have to wait a little longer.

Hekate


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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:17 PM
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46. I love Schadenfreude... haven't felt it in ages. Bring it on!!! n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:43 PM
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48. It's hard to truly get in the mood for Schadenfreude when the other side has no shame...
They feel no shame when their scandals are revealed -- only if they are forced to resign do they start to get a glimmer.
:-( I keep hoping.

Hekate

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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:27 PM
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51. Me too
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:33 PM
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36. I heard something about the Grassy Knoll and a one armed man!!!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:41 PM
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10. If the various scandals and exposes haven't done the trick yet...not sure
what will. Hope the bombshell exceeds the hype.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:55 PM
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39. why would it... the Corporate Media has chosen a side
a long time ago....
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:55 PM
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17. Official Message to Lonestarnot: "The Raven Flies At Midnight...."
... there are certain rules that must be followed before a well-kept secret can be divulged!

There ... the signal has been given ... let's hear it!!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:58 PM
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19. LONESTARNOT job is done. I suspect you won't get a reply.
the board is now all worked up into a lather over something that was total and complete bullshit.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:36 PM
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27. Except he did. And well before you posted. nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:12 PM
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30. meh, I stand corrected. big deal. nt
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:28 PM
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23. lonestarnot, you've put all your credibility-eggs in one basket. If this story doesn't pan out...
You are going to have numerous po-ed DUers doggin' your tail if it's just so much smoke!
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:31 PM
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24. the witch hunt will be a hoot, though!
"He's a witch. Burn Him!"
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:35 PM
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25. Does it involve the rep from New Mexico?


It's clear from identifying details in the indictment -- which refers to a New Mexico Indian tribe that hired Abramoff's firm, Greenberg Traurig around March 2002 -- that the tribe is the Sandia Pueblo Indians, who are represented in Congress by Wilson. So in other words, a staffer for Wilson was actively involved in helping Ring and Greenberg Traurig (Firm B, where Ring worked at the time), retain their contract to represent the Sandia Indians. And Ring's Greenberg partner -- most likely Abramoff himself, but certainly a member of Abramoff's team at Greenberg -- believed he had the power to affect decisions made by Rep. Wilson concerning the tribe's interests.

A spokesman for Rep. Wilson declined to comment on the information in the indictment.

We already knew that Wilson had accepted political contributions from both Abramoff himself and David Safavian, a former Abramoff crony and Bush administration official convicted for obstruction of justice as part of the Abramoff probe. But the information in the indictment suggests that her office worked with Abramoff more closely that has yet been reported.

Wilson has been a stalwart supporter and prominent surrogate for John McCain, painting him as a crusader against Washington corruption. Just last night, she appeared on MSNBC's Hardball to make the case for him, and last week she told NPR: "John McCain has chosen a reformer ... to be his running mate and I think that's a perfect complement to who he is and what he's done in his life."

Wilson may have good reason to hold the GOP nominee in high regard. In his 2005 Senate investigation, McCain had access to the Greenberg Traurig email trove, presumably including the ones cited by prosecutors in the Ring indictment highlighted above. But his final report generally avoided focusing on members of Congress, and omitted any mention of Wilson.

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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:27 PM
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34. HTF do you know??
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:31 PM
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35. You are 100% correct! I hate these false "stories" that never turn into anything!!!!!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:39 PM
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38. oh no! -lonestarnot's i.p. info shows registration to a leopold, jason...
:banghead:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:04 PM
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44. Wait, are you kidding?
LOL
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:59 PM
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40. If it is real then giving the subject now won't matter
Time to cut out the games. What is the rumor?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:50 PM
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43. can we guess?
my guesses

Sarah Palin is male?

:evilgrin:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:13 PM
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45. Perhaps. How about lobbyist Vicki Iseman will spill the beans on McSleaze?
That would be salacious!
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:30 PM
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52. You've gotta be kidding me......people are still waiting for something that's never happening?
Just proves......how do you keep an idiot in suspense.....
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