H1B Visa Abuse - Do as we say or get deported

[FreakinDJ]

H1B Visa Abuse

Do as we say or get deported

From the green building in which I recently left, where the entire environmental controls will be monitored from the desk of another country, to the tech support jobs that Dell led the way into the Indian nation, the brighter of our countrymen, the Techie geeks, are under attack. Not just from the threat of offshoring, but by the threat of misuse of H1B Visa's by unscrupulous employers on our own shores. It is called the PERM process and the following video made by Immigration attorneys from Cohen & Grigsby explains just how to disqualify qualified US Workers in favor of foreign workers, who by the way must keep their job at all costs or be deported. Sounds like a new form of slavery.

Cisco caught in maelstrom over fake job ads to hire H-1B visa holders

The ad copy read, "No phone calls please." But Huber, a University of Chicago graduate whose prior work included being the lead LAN/WAN network engineer for NASA's aborted X-33 rocket plane project, called Cisco and asked for the person named in the ad.

"Before I send my resume into a black hole, I always like to talk to the recruiter first," he said this week. A Cisco telephone operator gave Huber the phone number of an immigration law firm in Santa Clara, Calif. "Why would I be talking with somebody at an immigration law firm about this?" he wondered.

http://anti-union.blogspot.com/2008/02/offshoring-and-h1b-visa-abuse-1-2-punch.html

[OhioChick]

1. K&R

:kick:

[LBJDemocrat]

2. Watch the video

Hillary Clinton pledged to raise the cap on H1-B visas.

There's bipartisan support for hurting the American worker. Sorry to say.

[countryjake]

3. As the AFL-CIO says, foreign workers MUST demand Right to Union Representation!

As visiting employees on American shores or foreign employees of American Corporations overseas, these workers should fall under the jurisdiction of every federal or state labor law (where corporation "base" is located), same as everyone else who works here, with rights to whistle blow on illegal practices, file grievances, equal pay, safe working conditions, and the right to organize and form a union to protect their rights on the job.

This would, effectively, stymie companies such as CISCO from engaging in "legal" slavery.

Organize!

End Corporate Rule - Unionize!

[FreakinDJ]

4. Nice idea - but it doesn't work that way

They are too scared of being deported if they speak up

[countryjake]

6. Yes it does...unions are demanding that these workers be represented...

and as long as people continue to view them as "job stealers" or the fault of all our own woes, corporations will win and the practice will continue.

Until all workers of American corporations gather as one united force, no matter their citizen status, and demand the full rights of Union Representation, the snark, hatred, and contempt continues to divide and defeat us all.

Workers play right into the hands of the Fat Cat owners and bosses, by continuing to see foreign workers as a threat. Offshoring would stop if rights to organize were policy at overseas workplaces and the oppression of H1B workers would end if those who have been displaced by them saw the advantage in standing up for the rights of all who work in their trade, including foreign workers.

Solidarity brings a win for all.

[BlooInBloo]

12. +1

[countryjake]

13. Here's the way the problem is handled...

http://65.18.221.115/_page.php?menu=organizing&inc=keycampaign/globalhorizons/GHchron.htm

I know the visa classification is different, but the principle is exactly the same. Solidarity and Union Representation for any and all.

:thumbsup:

[Greyhound]

16. Sorry, but foreign workers are a threat and the unions have no solidarity

within their organizations, nor with each other.

Unless and until the unions pull their heads out of their asses and realize that we are all, as in each and every one of us, in this battle and this war, for war it is, together there will never be any improvement on this front.

In order to secure better pay, benefits, conditions, etc., there has to be a scarcity of talent and unity of organizations. The H-1(b) and L-1 visa programs were created to endure a glut of talent to drive the price of talent down.

I think the first thing the unions have to do is take their leadership back from the "executive class" that has take them over.

[countryjake]

19. Realizing we're in this together is the crux and globalizing unions...

and regaining that bargaining power for, as you say, "each and every one of us" will be the only way to beat the corporatists at their own game. The Farmworkers Union were roused by their rank and file to do just that and won in our state to stop the practice of certain employers claiming "no local labor" to ship in foreign guest workers. Eliminating those many loopholes that these fatcats devise to glut the labor force should be where the attention of unions such as WASHTECH and CWA aim their focus, by joining with the holders of H-1 visas, understanding how they were hornswoggled into coming here at cut-rates, and seeking out the common "enemy". And I heartily agree that it's a war, just not a "war on immigrants" or guest workers, as so many would like us to believe.

[Greyhound]

20. No it's not a war on them, but it is easy to blame them when your whole life is taken

away, apparently, by them.

[FreakinDJ]

22. 1 in a million Best case scenario

What happened in Yakima Valley was a 1 in a million long shot.

Yes it was probably the best outcome possible, but I'll wager $50 no more Taiwanese were ever employed in that valley again. The crooked "Cork Soakers" probably paid some coyote big bucks to get truck loads of mexican illegals to pick the next harvest.

The only way to curtail the problem is CRACK Down on employers, migrant labor contractors, and yes even unethical lawyers(hard to believe such a thing)

Until then the American worker suffers, AND the immigrant worker suffers.

[OhioChick]

7. You're absolutely right. n/t

[countryjake]

9. Then speak up for them!

It is in the best interest of all who share a trade to speak up for those who are subjected to illegal practices, in that trade.

[FreakinDJ]

10. Jake - this is a Republican sponsored issue

Corp America goes to the Ratpublicans to out source jobs - not the Democrats

[Greyhound]

17. They are on both sides of the isle, check the time line and votes. n/t

:kick:

[OhioChick]

18. Why.....so the both of us can lose our jobs?

:eyes:

[FreakinDJ]

5. Nothing to see here folks - just more Republican outsourcing

It’s back. The SKIL bill — which was introduced into the U.S. Senate last year and focused on raising the H-1B visa cap and reforming green card limits — has been reintroduced into the Senate and House of Representatives.

On Wednesday, U.S. Rep. John Shadegg, R-Ariz., introduced in the House the "Securing Knowledge Innovation and Leadership," or SKIL bill. The legislation is identical to a bill that was reintroduced last week into the Senate by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who also introduced that bill last year during the last congressional session.
http://www.desiconsultingjobs.com/?p=67

[OhioChick]

8. McCain is all for raising the cap,

As well as for more free (not fair) trade agreements.

One would think that U.S. citizens would pay attention to this when job loss is extremely high, people losing jobs, homes going into foreclosure, etc.

[FreakinDJ]

11. They pay attention to this issue in OHIO - Big Time

those poor folks have been hit the hardest

[OhioChick]

14. Half of those in Ohio

are too worried about a black man becoming president. :eyes:

[Greyhound]

15. Been telling people this for over 10 years. Just like NAFTA, GATT, WTO, etc.,

everything these parasites (corporate overlords) have done is a lose-lose proposition for everyone but them. I know so many (former) IT workers that just hate the H-1(b) visa workers and never even consider the horrible conditions they must labor under. These poor, desperate, people are no better than slaves.
:kick: & R

[TahitiNut]

21. Welcome to Silicon Valley ... the "immigration system" is merely Trafficking In Human Labor ...

... on a nationwide scale. Both 'legal' and 'illegal.' :shrug:

[Joesunionreview]

23. Hey, I know that story, I wrote it

thanks for bringing this back up, yes I agree there is a war on workers everywhere and in every field. But I don't blame the leaders, I blame us, for keeping our heads buried in the glut of BS on the tube and in the news.

Like I said before, more people prefer to keep up to date with American Idol than American Axle.

We are our own worst enemy.

[FreakinDJ]

24. Cool Joe - glad to meet you

I blame us, for keeping our heads buried in the glut of BS on the tube and in the news.

Well how the fuck do you think Bush got re-elected - by idiots who refuse to so much as read.

I ran a guy off a Union job for spouting the glories of Rush LimpBall's spew with a bunch of Anti-union comments. I told him "Then why the fuck are you drawing a union pay check if that is the way you feel"

Well he tried the other side (non-union) for about 1 month until he got fired, then came crawling back asking to put his ticket back in.

It takes all of us (union dicks) reminding people all of the time - "The 1950s were the most prosperous times and greatest expansion of America's Economic Powers, - and at a time of the highest percentage of Organized Labor in the work force"

America Works Best when America Works Union

on edit

you need to see this thread too
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3944750