What a lousy example the palin family is to our nation's youth.

[Philosoraptor]

What kind of a moral message does it send to our young people to have a pregnant teen and her boyfriend on the national stage, in a glaring state of unmarried-ness?

I wouldn't be surprised if millions of teens went right out and fucked and made babies now that they've seen it displayed so luridly to the whole world, and with old glory waving right behind them for Christ's sake!

How do we tell the children about the awful palin family? What kind of a filthy, disgusting message does this send to America's youth?

I am so outraged I can barely scream.

[Ganja Ninja]

1. What ever happened to the sanctity of marriage?

I guess it's been trumped by the lust for power.

[Philosoraptor]

2. And abstinence in Christ's holy name?

When young people feel those awful lusty twinges, they should pray to Jesus, real, real hard.

[notadmblnd]

3. well it doesn't look like those Purity Balls are working out so well, now does it?

[Philosoraptor]

5. SOMEBODY'S balls are certainly impure

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. .....but apparently working well

[Tripper11]

4. Typical Republican family values and preaching....

DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!!!

So many bad examples of the very things they rail against every single day and yet, they always get away with it.
It's fucking mindnumbing, it truly is.

[Philosoraptor]

But if Democrats do it, they get stoned with large rocks of outrage

[Tripper11]

19. Hypocrisy thy name is REPUBLICAN /eom

[DrDan]

15. isn't there a flaw in this reasoning?

The conservative parents are promoting these family values - not the daughter. And it is the daughter who's actions led to this problem - not the parent's.

The family is dealing with it in a conservative fashion - they will have the child and the two will get married.

I don't think a lot of Americans will see it your way. I think they will see a strong family dealing with a family issue - according to their conservative values.

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged" Does Not Apply To Hypocritical Repugs

And Hypocritical Self-Righteous Religious Nut Jobs! Any bad behavior that the aforementioned groups engage in is A-OKAY! For Them! They don't Lead By Example!

[crim son]

6. Filthy & disgusting?

Granted, the Palin family is far from ideal and it was the height of tackiness to have the boyfriend make his appearance (looking dapper in his suit, ha!) but the truth is that pregnant teenagers are quite common and in the same way that parents of disabled children might believe they have an "ally, and advocate" in the White House w/Palin, the millions of families affected the same way, might feel a bond with the Palins. I am not outraged; I am discouraged because it screams of hypocrisy, and the american people will not only tolerate it, but embrace it.

[Philosoraptor]

7. Sorry, I left out nasty and repulsive.

[crim son]

13. Laughing.

That's okay; I got your meaning!

[DrDan]

8. it will present a very strong moral example for the evangelicals

she is pro-life - and lives that philosophy.

Lets get real - these things happen to families on both sides. Teenagers will be teenagers.

A lot of Americans will see a family dealing with a family issue. And they will like how it is being dealt with - the two involved getting married and having the child.

[Philosoraptor]

9. Yeah, well why ain't that boy married that girl YET?

[DrDan]

16. I guess that is an attempt at humor . . . hard to tell these days

[Philosoraptor]

17. One of many

[hamsterjill]

29. Yes, that's essentially correct, but many of us

See a family that needs to be concentrating on those family issues instead of concentrating on a political campaign right now.

I am hopeful that at least some of the evangelicals will have thought about it from this vantage point.

[JimDandy]

37. They are also "Pro-abstinence" - and don't live that philosophy, but insist on others doing so.

Teenages in my area and at my son's christian church are just laughing at this family, questioning their hypocrisy, and venting about Sarah Palin getting into a position of power and legislating her "family values" agenda on them, when neither she (Track admittedly conceived out of wedlock) nor her family (Bristol's debacle) lived their own values.

Start ASKING the TEENS in your area what THEY think about this family, instead of speculating about what "A lot of Americans will see."

And PUHleeeas, tell me what these teens are to think, if the National Enquirer's story is true - that Sarah Palin also had an extra-marital affair?

[Raven]

11. I'm noticing that this Bristol Palin thing really bothers republican

fathers of teenage girls. I've talked to a few in the last few days and this thing really makes them uncomfortable. I think they are wondering how to explain to their daughters why getting pregnant out of wedlock is OK for the VP nominee's daughter but not for them.

[Philosoraptor]

12. OK for the VP nominee's daughter but not for them

Gee mom, I wanna get knocked up too, why won't you let me huh mom, huh?

[Fumesucker]

22. Bingo. DING DING DING...

This is a major issue..

What do we tell the children?

[Beausoleil]

24. Even more confusing trying to explain how abstinence

makes you pregnant.

[JimDandy]

38. That is simply sublime! LOL! You're good!! n/t

[KharmaTrain]

14. They Make Me Grateful For My Children

If these are "family values", keep me miles away from this crap. I've gotten a lot of messages...and they all deal with parents who are self-centered and but their ambitions ahead of their children. I looked at that family and saw a lot of alienation and sadness...children who are being used by their parents as trophies and exploited, no matter what, to prove some kinda of point.

You don't have to tell the children, they see it for themselves. The Palins are't unique, my wife works with Girl Scouts and we see a lot of confused and alienated children who don't see a future and suffer from low esteem; forced to grow up fast and learning on the fly (literally).

Most important it shows what a world under "family values" is about...as well as what it would be like without Roe v. Wade. Not only don't these children have rights over their body, they have no control over their lives...forced to live up to expectations of their parents. The Palin kids have the advantage of money and power that can paper over their dysfunctions as opposed to a majority who don't have the financial resources and their lives and opportunities are ruined by a society that sends conflicting messages...exploiting risky behavior on one side and then avoiding to discuss the reprocussions. "Abstinence" without a reason other than "good girls don't" and young women who are confused about sex...drinking that is galmorized on the teevee without discussions of doing so responsibly and the "macho" culture that encourages wreckless behavior. Most important is the lack of communications between parents and children that can assist them in navigating the difficult teen years.

I'm not as outraged as I am sad for these people.

[live love laugh]

18. She is not ready for prime time--too "common" IMHO. nt

[babydollhead]

20. Jeffers...

...

[Obamanaut]

21. No worse than the young and famous in the entertainment

business, whose lifestyles are supported by the young people who adore them.

[Fumesucker]

23. But they aren't in the entertainment business..

The Palins, like it or not for the rest of the family, are in the "leadership" business.

If you think you know well enough to tell the rest of us how to run our lives, then your damn life should be put under the microscope first.

[bullwinkle428]

28. For as vapid and shallow as I find Paris Hilton, for example, to be,

I've never seen her out there lecturing people how to live their lives while acting in a completely opposite manner!

[Raffi Ella]

25. I know, right!??? The SHAMELESSNESS is what gets to me the most...

They paraded their teenage pregnant daughter on stage along WITH her lover - as if it were the most natural thing in the world; all the while claiming their way - abstinence/no birth control/anti womens choice - WORKS.

THEIR way resulted in THEIR teenage daughter being PREGNANT - HELLO!!????


The Palin Family is a WALKING ADVERTISEMENT FOR SEX ED! and yet we're not suppose to talk about it - BULLSHIT. Roe v Wade is under seige and the poorest States are the ones most affected by anti womens rights -WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

That extremist needs to get her ass out front and center and ANSWER some questions!

[asteroid2003QQ47]

31. You're free to vote against her, that's what I'll do but...

peruse Russell's sage advice if you will--

"The Christian view that all intercourse outside marriage is immoral was, as we see in the... passages from St. Paul, based upon the view that all sexual intercourse, even within marriage, is regrettable. A view of this sort, which goes against biological facts, can only be regarded by sane people as a morbid aberration. The fact that it is embedded in Christian ethics has made Christianity throughout its whole history a force tending towards mental disorders and unwholesome views of life."
(Bertrand Russell / 1872-1970 / Marriage and Morals)
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Those who are faithful know only the trivial side of love: it is the faithless who know love's tragedies.
--Oscar Wilde

[Obamarulz11]

26. Palin article...proof that shes not a good role model

How can anyone switch school 6 times in 6 years!!!Why? How?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hjGaAjQoUCE3VQ4N3M852LEdOVtwD9307GG00

[nichomachus]

30. A girl from the tundra so wild

A girl from the tundra so wild
Can keep herself quite undefiled
By thinking of Jesus
Contagious diseases
And the bother of having a child

[young_at_heart]

32. The Pubs are spinning the "American Dream" scenario

No woman at her age with four children already and big civic responsibilities that keep her away from home should allow herself to become pregnant, but her virtue is being pushed to the Evangelicals big time and they are crediting her for her good Christian values and say she will bring "that" to the White House.

[noel711]

33. I am a woman, and I have a daughter...

I know this is NOT one of those 'black-and-white' issues that
the republicans so easily swallow.

I won't judge the kid; kids raised in a household that
preaches abstinance and narrow moral guidelines usually end up
without the ability to make complex decisions.

What galls me is the hypocrisy; to preach moral 'purity,'
and to condemn abortion, is one thing.
To deny sex education classes, and
to slash funding that helps pregnant teens is a crime.
There are already too many little girls on the streets
because their high-minded parents threw them out for
pregnancy. (Our church had a weekly committment to
prepare a meal for the homeless who lived in the
subway terminal; there were far too many pregnant
teens who desperately needed food, medical attention,
and a home. Their 'christian' parents threw them out.)

I'm a Christian pastor; I think sexual promiscuity
is deadly for many reasons, but I doubt that anyone
went to eternal Hell because they slept around.
Jesus forgave the 'adulteress,' but he also
condemned those who condemned her.

I am also a reasonably intelligent woman who
very early and often had 'bare bones' discussions
with my daughter as she was growing up.
I want her protected, not only from diseases,
but also from unwanted pregnancies that might forever
alter her life. My frequent expression to her was:
"Once you have a baby, you must grow up.
Your 'life' is over, and the baby's life takes precedence."

She'd roll her eyes, but she got it.
What does Bristol Palin have?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. Why aren't they married? The second they found out that the girl was pregnant, why didn't

the two get married?

[Philosoraptor]

35. ...........

[ColbertWatcher]

36. The GOP have never believed in working hard to get ahead.

They've always been able to buy their way to the top.

What regular people do does not concern them; they get theirs.