BINGO !

[SoCalDem]

This undated photo provided by the Heath family shows Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin pregnant in Wasilla, Alaska. Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., announced Palin as his vice presidential running mate on Friday, Aug. 29, 2008.
(AP Photo/Heath Family)
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My guess would be that this was with one of the girls...and we know she's at LEAST 7 months there..



..............................................................................
This pic snapped the day before/of the birth 4-17 or 4-18
by a fellow traveler who was surprised to see her flying coach

[ColbertWatcher]

1. YATZEE! n/t

[d_b]

2. k

now i'm beginning to buy into this one.

[Submariner]

3. But how do you get the nurses, doctors, the father's parents

and anyone else who knows to not blow this story, if it is one, wide open. I would feel it is too ballsy to run as VP with this hanging over her head.

[SoCalDem]

5. Because

Wasilla is a very close-knit place and I have NO doubt that Sarah confided in a few trusted friends.. That baby could have been delivered at home with a midwife or a doctor friend making a housecall.. All Sarah needed to do was to get home and sign the birth certificate..

EVERY hospital has entrances that are not "open to the public".. They arrived back in AK after 10:30 at night.. That baby could have been born at 2PM, and it would not have mattered if the girl was not IN the hospital..

They had MONTHS to plan this out and get all their pals lined up.. Her doctor friend is on the government payroll, and that medical center gets loads of state money.. everyone would be willing to "do the governor a favor"..and save the reputation of her poor daughter..and they might even consider it "God's work".

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. The baby was delivered by a doctor in a hospital

The very least you would have to contemplate is

1) crooked doctor falsifying medical records
2) at least one and possibly two nurses in the room
3) every maternity ward nurse on shift for the two days knowingly violating the law with false documentation

That's at a minimum.

[johnaries]

67. It was delivered by their family doctor that Palin appointed to a

high position and recommended for various awards. Cronyism at it's finest.

[NYC Liberal]

70. How about mommy adopting kid's newborn baby in a closed adoption

right after birth?

[CJCRANE]

6. The neocons covered up 9/11, the Plame leak etc.

I don't see how this would be that difficult to cover up for a time.

[mitchum]

49. And Cheney shotgunning a man in the face (while with his mistress)

[Wetzelbill]

7. hey Edwards ran for president knowing he had an affair

This is a might more crazy, but ego can be a massive thing. And this is a sparsely populated state, she has money, who knows? I don't buy it myself, but hell at this point nothing would surprise me. McCain could turn into a werewolf at midnight tomorrow and I'd only bat my eyes long enough to think about if this hurt him or not and then resign myself to thinking the media would cover it up and KO would be the only one to report it.

[Submariner]

9. It has to be the Ego thing then

because I know mine is not big enough to remotely think I would dare try and pull this stunt while in the state, and now countrywide spotlight.

[Wetzelbill]

10. I think anybody who wants one of the top few powerful jobs in the world

Probably has to have a massive ego. Honestly, some people think they can get away with anything, just look at the Bush administration. Hell Clinton had an affair in office with a freaking intern even after he knew the Republicans were investigating him every single time somebody slipped on a banana peel. Never underestimate how flawed and arrogant human beings are, especially those who feel untouchable in the first place.

[SoCalDem]

79. any yet, she had every opportunity to "just say no"

but her ambition got in the way.. And NOW her life will be gone over with a fine-toothed comb, and evey rock will be overturned..

The cockamamie conflicting stories she told, might be okay with the locals who are dependent on her whims, for their salaries, but the rest of the country may be eager to out her for the liar she is..

[SoCalDem]

8. The father's parents probably breathed a sigh of relief

to NOT have their teenaged son tagged as the father to a lifetime of child support payments ..

[greguganus]

14. The baby's father might also be the baby's grandfather. n/t

[yardwork]

44. Sadly, that is not at all unusual.

[Frank Cannon]

45. Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. n/t

[Orangepeel]

48. Oh! What if the father is a space alien? Or bigfoot?

I don't believe the whole Desperate Housewives storyline - I think it is most likely that the lamebrain went into labor on the plane and then concocted a whole "water breaking in Texas" story for dramatic effect.

But, there is some basis for speculation about the baby switching (weak as it may be). She doesn't look pregnant and there are rumors her daughter was cloistered. But there aren't even any RUMORS of incest (other than the ones you start). Is that out of anything other than the whole cloth of you thinking it would make the story more juicy?

[shanti]

80. no need to go there

:( you can't prove that, so just drop it.

[Tansy_Gold]

69. The (presumed) father may not even know.

Are there circumstances under which the pregnant teen mother doesn't tell the father? Sure. What if she's not sure who the father is? What if she doesn't care for him or want him involved?

I'M NOT ACCUSING BRISTOL PALIN OF ANY OF THE ABOVE. I'm merely pointing out that there are a variety of circumstances under which the mother may not inform the father of his, er, fatherhood.

That eliminates several people from the list of "conspirators."

Hospital personnel and other attending medical people can't talk about patients. They're essentially sworn to secrecy by the nature of their job.

That pretty much leaves just the family members.

[SoCalDem]

72. And what teenaged boy would step into this maelstrom now?

and claim paternity to a handicapped child that he would be potentially responsible for for his whole life? Most teen boys are not that altruistic.. The "dad" knows, especially if he was her boyfriend..no doubt she told him first..

[seabeyond]

30. they have been talking about it in alaska. she had no idea she would be vp. this is one reason i

bothered. i could see the small area leaving it alone. snickers behind back ect.... but people allowing. it is a whole other story when a person presents themselves to the nation stage as vp and all of the world or nation anyway is looking. what pisses me off is IF this is true she creates a lie. and then in arrogance or whatever she thinks it wont be caught. she sets up her daughter for public embarrassment

if you have these skeletons dont get self on front page to expose them

[ColbertWatcher]

4. You know what they'll say?

The pregnant woman in the first picture is her sister (Sarah is on the left).

Watch.

[NashVegas]

28. And I Think They'd Be Correct

Sorry you don't like it. The one on the right doesn't look like Palin, the one on the left has her hair styled the way Palin does, the other just has "Big" hair. Also look at the glasses.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

53. That's what it looks like to me

Plus, it is an undated photo

[SoCalDem]

74. It's a photo GIVEN by the FAMILY of HER

the other person is likely a friend or sister.. sisters often look alike, y'know..

If someone asks you for a picture of a family memeber, wouldn't you given them a picture that shows their face:rofl:..and the caption even refers to her pregnancy.. if the other is pregnant too, it's of no real consequence.. and Sara has always had her hair dark..in every picture I've seen :)

[ColbertWatcher]

76. I'm not saying they'd be right ...

I'm just saying the GOP has a way of denying even the most obvious, thus providing their followers with enough doubt to ignore reality.

[TexasObserver]

11. that top photo is obviously an earlier pregnancy, eh?

She does NOT look preggers in the lower photo.

This is the kind of cover up that would be manageable for a sitting governor, but not for a suddenly emerging VP candidate.

I suspect that this never showed up in the vetting, as minimal as it was.

[ColbertWatcher]

12. But, it is not clear who the pregnant woman is in the top photo.

I can almost guarantee the GOP propaganda ministry will say it is her sister.

[pnwmom]

13. Those two do look a lot alike. n/t

[starroute]

37. It looks exactly how she looked in 1989

Someone yesterday posted a link to video of her as a tv reporter from the time of her first pregnancy in 1989, and she had exactly that same 80's hairdo and a rounder face than presently. There's no way they can spin that it's not her.

[ColbertWatcher]

77. "There's no way they can spin that it's not her." Really?

This is the same GOP that said Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

[Joanne98]

64. Which one is her? The pregnant one or the other one?

[ColbertWatcher]

15. LOL! Check out this photo from Wikip*dia! (EDIT) Picture added.

(it's too big, so I'm going to post the link to the wiki page)

://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Palin_family_and_McCain_family_at_VP_announcement.

Copy and paste the above add
http to the front, and jpg to the end, and voila!


Never mind, here is the pic...

[lonestarnot]

18. scrubbed.

[ColbertWatcher]

19. ?

What do you mean scrubbed?

I truncated the url because the PICTURE IS SO HUGE!

add http to the front, and jpg to the end.

[lonestarnot]

21. I'll try again, I forgot to add jpg this is what I got

Image:Palin family and McCain family at VP announcement
From Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository
Jump to: navigation, search
No file by this name exists. You can upload it.
It is possible it once existed but was deleted. Check for Palin family and McCain family at VP announcement in the deletion log.

Links
There are no pages that link to this file

[ColbertWatcher]

25. I added it to post #15. n/t

[lonestarnot]

27. There it is! Thanks.

[wtmusic]

41. scrubbed again. nt

[ColbertWatcher]

73. Sorry, it's there. I don't know why it's not showing for you. n/t

[lonestarnot]

22. Nope no workie for me, but that doesn't say much LOL

[ColbertWatcher]

24. I added it to post #15. n/t

[seabeyond]

31. aaaah isnt he beautiful. nothing like a baby sleeping on ya.... i miss it

just precious.

[knitter4democracy]

50. I was just thinking the same thing.

Then there's that baby smell. Nothing beats that, either.

[seabeyond]

52. yup. n/t

[FatDave]

57. You guys are making me forget all about...

diapers, puking, and not sleeping through the night. Babies are great, but kids you can introduce to Star Wars and two-player Joust are better.

[knitter4democracy]

87. Oh, I never forget about that stuff.

After our second child was born, my pain came back pretty bad about two months in. I distinctly remember nursing two while biting my lip in pain, and then trying to carry the baby while crawling to the bedroom with the diaper changing stuff while the toddler patted my back. No, I don't miss those days or forget them. I do miss how amazing it was to watch them grow, though. I remember how my son absolutely loved trees--calmed right down if you took him under a tree--and how my daughter would only sleep if she was on me. Part of me misses those days.

[FatDave]

56. It's really hard to link to a pic without embedding on DU, but here's a trick

Take the url to your image and add ?randomtext to the end. Most webservers will ignore the part after the ? and just show the picture, but it fools DU into thinking it's not an image (and therefore it doesn't try to embed the image).

Example: ?foo

[annabanana]

16. k&r

It's a pity she's facing away in the first photo.

[Vinca]

17. If the top picture was dated or someone swore to the date, it would

be relevant because she's definitely not 7 months pregnant. The bottom dated picture is inconclusive because of the heavy coat. Not bingo yet.

[radfringe]

20. rumor or not

assume for a moment that palin's account is true, that her water broke/leaked while she was in TX

what does that say about her judgement? you are 44yrs old, carrying a downs-syndrome baby, your water breaks/leaks - wouldn't you go immediately to the hospital and at least be checked out?

IMO, it's irresponsible, and poor judgement to hop on a plane under these circumstance.

[seabeyond]

32. exactly. in my book, truth be told, IF she got on that plane with leakage

it says a hell of a lot more than if it is her daughter

the daughter, the only problem is her slefserving self accepting vp knowing it would have to come out.

the other

is beyond what my mind wraps around

[KharmaTrain]

23. Turn The Gerbil Wheel...

I'm starting to take bets here on what day this story goes from viral to Inside Edition and then onto the TV food fights. This has too much red meat in it for the mediatypes to avoid. The seed has been planted...all we need the corporate media to do is spread their usual manure and we'll see what sprouts.

Cheers...

:hi:

PS - Nice chatting with you last night!

[Marr]

71. Oh, I think they'll ignore it.

Red meat is nothing if it's a Republican.

[shanti]

81. actually, i'm surprised that maher

didn't mention this on his show on friday.

[SoCalDem]

86. He will next week.. trust me on it.. By then it will be much more "fleshed out"..

or she might even need to "spend more time with her family" by then :rofl:

[MrsBrady]

26. that picture was takin at the airport in March 08, not April.

it was blogged, posted on the web, the week after Palin had her baby.

But the woman says that she was in the Airport leaving a ski trip in March when she saw the Governor.
"...I reflect back to my airport surprise when leaving Fairbanks after the PolarTREC Orientation in March." The woman also notes that she sees a pregnant Palin.

http://www.polartrec.com/node/3944

and no, I'm not a republican. I just want us to talk about the issues.
I don't like her, but there is no need to slime her. Even if it IS her daughter's baby...it's not going to change her on the issues. SHE'S NOT HILLARY. That's what we need to be talking about it.
Either way, I feel bad for this teenage girl who will be embarrassed by all this gossip.

[seabeyond]

33. then go talk about the "issues" you want to talk about. there is room for all of us

not only do i want to talk about this and i see it as an "issue" i want to talk about the other issues. being a mama i can multi task

[wtmusic]

54. Even if it is her daughter's baby? What about the issues of

hypocrisy, honesty, teen pregnancy, family values? :shrug:

[Kansas Wyatt]

82. You left out insurance fraud.

If any average American claimed to have her daughter's baby, with medical problems, and passed the child off as her own, they would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and thrown in prison.

[SoCalDem]

88. Yep.. I dare any DUer to try and get medical care for a sister's child

or a friend's child, by claiming he/she is your own kid.. You might get away with it for stitches or a cold, but for long-term disability, you are very likely to get caught and sent to jail.. and your employer might not appreciate you using company coverage on a child not your own..

[seabeyond]

29. i saw a picture of her bouncing up the stairs on a walk with a journalist

literally took a couple bouncing steps. at 7 months. along with the high heels ect.... you just dont bounce at 7 months

wow on the picture

now an interesting would be get a picture when she told reporters or close to telling them. and then provide the date of pictures when she looked preg. it seemed only a week or two different yet all of a sudden thru layer clothes she looked preg

[FatDave]

59. You'd think that making that announcement...

...photographers would ask her to pose for some photos in profile. I mean I would, if I was a photographer. I mean "The Governor is Pregnant" is going to be a big story, wouldn't you want an accompanying photo?

[wtmusic]

35. Great work SCD.

:thumbsup:

Now get some sleep!

[SoCalDem]

84. Thanks.. I snoooozded for a little bit..

I know people are pissed that I am interested in this angle, but I just feel it in my bones.. I have listened to too many "yarns" , as a mother of three teenagers at one time, and I know a big ole whopper when I hear one.. She told too many variations on the story and nothing about the "locations" and the rest of it makes any sense, except for the obvious..

shame on her for not staying in Alaska, where the locals would "hold the secret"..

[texasleo]

36. Jenga!

[Octafish]

38. Isn't it UNSAFE to fly in third trimesster?

Don’t Be Shy

Flying in the third trimester is still safe so long as your due date is not too close. However, the possibility of going into premature labor is something to consider before you take off. Before you leave, double check that your health insurance is up-to-date and that your baby will be covered if she decides to make an early appearance. You should also ask your doctor or midwife for a medical contact in your destination and carry a copy of your medical records with you.

SOURCE: http://www.pregnancy-info.net/wellbeing_flying.html

Most importantly: Thank you for your great work, SoCalDem!

[starroute]

39. Palin at the Iditarod on March 1

It's another winter coat shot -- but I gave birth to one of my kids in early May, and I know that by March I couldn't zip up my winter coat. Palin's doesn't even seem to fit snugly.



There's a large version at http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordan_in_alaska/2304990684/sizes/o

[Truth4Justice]

40. I knew it! We have legs, folks. Pregnant,my behind. Luv those family values :-)

[washingdem]

42. Key Phrase: "Undated photo." Could be from years ago.

[SoCalDem]

61. That's my point..Previous pregnancies were not "hide-able"

she looked like any other pregnant woman..big as a house..y'know..normal..

[baldguy]

43. Is this a picture of a pregnant woman in medical distress?

Remember- Her water has broke at least 12 hours BEFORE this pic

[kath]

55. NO, NO, NO - pic was taken in MARCH.

The reading comprehension issues here are amazing. Go to the blog article where this photo appeared.

If we're going to post photos, we have to be METICULOUS about knowing when they were taken.

JEEBUS.

[SoCalDem]

62. The blog was presented as meeting her on the TX-AK flight

if the lady has changed the text since, I wouldn't know :) I don't have the link to that person;s blog.. it was posted here the other night:)

[kath]

66. No it was NOT. Texas never mentioned. She was flying from somewhere in AK (Anchorage, IIRC) to her

home elsewhere in Alaska.
I think she mentioned seeing another governor (or political person) in a Louisiana airport, but this may have been on another occasion. Her encounter with Palin was in ALASKA. And this was in MARCH - I'm certain of it, because I pointed out someone else's error on this point yesterday.

I agree with you that the story is very fishy.
My point is that people posting photos (or accounts of events) need to be METICULOUS about dates and other details.

Hell, someone on Daily Kos posted the Super Tuesday photo (which was **VERY** clearly labeled as such) as being taken in March. Such sloppiness is pathetic.

[MiniMe]

46. I think the person on the left looks like Palin too

is her current hairstyle. It's definitely not one of the kids, none of them wear glasses. And if you look at her hair in the airport, her hair is NOT permed. So it does look like a picture from an earlier pregnancy.

I'm still not convinced the whole thing is valid, but just wanted to post my observation.

[Joanne98]

65. me too

[mnhtnbb]

47. Here is video of Palin in 1989--also obviously pregnant. It's the same woman.

Hairstyle would indicate same timeframe.

http://www.ktva.com/video?bcpid=1641243975&bclid=1632695727&bctid=1761990935

[Frank Cannon]

58. Yep, that "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" hairdo...

is kind of a dead giveaway.

[Terran]

51. If the photo is undated, then how do you know

how many months along she is in the photo? I'm just sayin'...am I missing something here?

[SoCalDem]

63. Her son was born in 1989.. her anniversary was last week

He's 19.. the picture was provided by the FAMILY..it's purported to be of HER.. the other person is probably a friend or sister.. That hair style is exactly the way her hair is in her sportsgal video from 1989..and yes pregnany women usually plump up in the face too..

It was defintely not "coat weather"...but not summer, since there are no leaves or greenery, so the time frame does get narrowed a bit..

[Sanctified]

60. She looks pregnant in this photo from Febuary 26th of 2008.

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/ap/20080829/img/pot-mccain-veepstakes-palin-90aef0b6c220.html

[ColbertWatcher]

75. Yahoo has a tendency to disappear images.

Sp, I uploaded you image onto the Truthiness Encyclopedia making sure there is a permanent copy.

[SoCalDem]

78. I have them all in my gallery too

Too bad the captions don't embed with the pics..

many times they change them..

[ColbertWatcher]

83. That's why I prefer the wiki ...

... you can upload all that info along with the image.

In fact, we prefer it if the images gave credit and provided sources.

[Caretha]

89. No she doesn't Milton

[Sanctified]

91. Compare these photos.

This one is from the same time that my first photo was taken.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dakotafine/2301695610/

This one is more recent with her hanging with the Spawn.



Now either she was pregnant or is best friends with Jenny Craig.

[wtmusic]

92. She looks more pregnant than she does 1-1/2 months later.

Musta left the other pillow at home.

[Ilsa]

68. Thanks I'm on board w/ you now. But her decision

to fly so late in pregnancy was reckless, IMO. It may have even initiated her placenta leaking or breaking.

I'm not into that kind of risk taking.

[SoCalDem]

85. New sites are popping up like mushrooms..it's going noo-cue-lur (like she says it)

http://www.bristolpalinpregnant.com/

and this great video of the guv on April 5... just 23 days before the "birth"... but then she probably thought she had another month :evilgrin:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-70930

[Fumesucker]

90. She neither looks pregnant nor "moves" pregnant in that video.

She practically skips up and down the stairs.

How do we know the date on the video for sure?