We are LOSING the war in Afghanistan

[Hugabear]

http://news.aol.com/article/is-the-us-losing-in-afghanistan/146304

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Taliban insurgents once derided as a ragtag rabble unable to match U.S. troops have transformed into a fighting force — one advanced enough to mount massive conventional attacks and claim American lives at a record pace.

The U.S. military suffered its 101st death of the year in Afghanistan last week when Sgt. 1st Class David J. Todd Jr., a 36-year-old from Marrero, La., died of gunfire wounds while helping train Afghan police in the northwest. The total number of U.S. dead last year — 111 — was a record itself and is likely to be surpassed.

Top U.S. generals, European presidents and analysts say the blame lies to the east, in militant sanctuaries in neighboring Pakistan. As long as those areas remain havens where fighters arm, train, recruit and plot increasingly sophisticated ambushes, the Afghan war will continue to sour.
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THIS is the real tragedy of the illegal war in Iraq, one that we need to hammer on from now until Election Day. Instead of dedicating our resources to winning one war, we've bled ourselves dry to the point where we're in real danger of losing TWO wars.

[billyoc]

1. Losing is the only possible outcome of an invasion of Afghanistan.

See Alexander the Great, and every other asshole who tried it.

[Truth2Tell]

2. Starting wars = losing wars. There are no winners. nt

[patrice]

4. AND "Victory" does NOT equal Body Count; look at Viet Nam!

Whether and how many you kill, or whether and when you are killed or live, doesn't have much to do with who wins. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, just FUCKING WOW!!!!!

[Hugabear]

5. I'll agree to that - we should have never gone into Afghanistan

This whole thing could have been handled diplomatically. It worked with Libya, they eventually turned over the suspects in the PanAm bombing.

However, since we DID go into Afghanistan, we should have gone in wholeheartedly. Not this half-assed shit.

[arcadian]

3. I talked to a Marine who explained to me the reason why the Marines are pulling out of Iraq.

And redeployed to Afghanistan. He said it's because "the Marines aren't occupiers, they are fighters". I think it's because the Marines are much more willing to slaughter with impunity.

[Disturbed]

6. The War on Iraq was won. Saddam's Regime was overthrown.

After that it has been a US/UK Occupation.

Afghanistan will never be ruled by US & it's Allies. The Afghan people will not allow it.