Obama is NOT behind Aug 4th Obama 316 McNasty 209 Ties 13

[greenbriar]

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[LSK]

1. Ohio, what the hell is the matter with you???

How many MORE factories do you need closed???

:shrug:

[greenbriar]

3. Ohio goes back and forth

same as florida

[margotb822]

5. It's the "r-word"

My best guess, anyways...

[DarthDem]

2. I Know

There's no way he's behind. Gallup tracker +3 today was nice. With a good day today and a tied day rolling off, should be at least the same tomorrow. Standard disclaimers about how none of this matters. :-)

[spanone]

4. how long will the media continue to lie about 'neck & neck' ?

[margotb822]

6. Apparently people have forgotten that

the popular vote doesn't win elections, states do. Plain and simple. We're all living out that nightmare right now, but this year, it's going to work to our advantage. Obama's team has a plan, and you can bet they're watching the state numbers more closely than the national polls (which are skewed garbage anyways).

[Flying Dream Blues]

16. and I don't even believe he's neck and neck in the popular vote. Skewed methodology, I think. nt

[elocs]

7. For those DUers who want to obsess about national polls: it is a 50 state election. n/t

[depakid]

8. Indiana and Florida- I don't think so....

:eyes:

[Indenturedebtor]

9. You might be surprised by Indiana - seriously

He's not going to take "Whitestown" or any of the other two trailer towns there, but he may take all of the population centers. Half of Indiana is a Northern state, half is a southern state.

[depakid]

13. That would take over a 20% point swing from 2004. -won't happen

especially in a state that's known to harbor racist tendencies.

[Indenturedebtor]

17. Every state is known to harbor racist tendencies.

And you just never know is all I'm saying. I take it you've never lived in Indiana? Or likely visited in 20 years?

[orleans]

10. thanks for posting this. i'm so fucking sick of seeing these polls

showing them nearly tied. i keep thinking: who the fuck are they polling?? and who runs those polls?

[MiniMe]

11. A few of those states are awfully close, Florida is whisker thin

Don't count your states yet. I won't believe anything until after the debates start.

[skip fox]

12. Do we have other breakdowns? Trusted sources?

:)

[greenbriar]

14. if you click on the states

I beleive it tells you the source of the polls and other information.

[rockymountaindem]

15. How many times do we have to be subjected to this?

That same site had Kerry well ahead for almost the entire 2004 election. Are we supposed to take their word for everything?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

18. You are correct., with limitations.

August 03, 2004: Kerry 328 Bush 210
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2004/aug/aug03.html

August 04, 2004: Kerry 307 Bush 231
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2004/aug/aug04.html

Through Sept and Oct Bush was always ahead.

The real joke was this:

Novemeber 01, 2004: Kerry 298 Bush 231
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2004/nov/nov01.html

[rockymountaindem]

20. I stand slightly corrected then

But the whole time that swiftboat shit was all over the media we kept being told "don't worry, he'll still win the electoral college" with these jokers being the source. I'm not going to fall for that again. Every time someone says "don't worry" I keep thinking that I've seen this movie before.

[Spike89]

19. NY went for Bush in 04?

I could be wrong, but I don't think so and the legend says it did. It also shows NY a virtual Obama lock, so, if I'm wrong, how did NY go from Repub to a cinch Dem state? If I'm right, how reliable is this information if they can make that type of error?