Democrats can dump on progressives and they know they will still vote for them

[bigmoon]

It's pathetic and sad.

[NNadir]

1. On the other hand, self described "progressives" never tire of bashing Democrats.

They're a particularly whiny bunch those progressives, tiresome, boring, self-important and highly inflated.

[Bluebear]

6. 'They're a particularly whiny bunch those progressives' - wow.

[LostinVA]

8. Whatever

[Occulus]

13. And I read your username, and I thought

"Irony is dead."

:D

[mmonk]

16. At least I have a name and identity now.

It's better than NOT BEING NOTICED.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. A quote from Frederick Douglass

"If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning."

That is what Fred Said.

[Lorien]

31. So that makes the Democrats, er, "regressives"?

Democrats have always been liberal progressives. So if they are not liberal progressives, what does that make all of us?

[Fluffdaddy]

2. That's OK, I understand how the game is played and won.

Move to the center....BABY

[mmonk]

15. The center isn't always to the right, especially these days.

Let me know when Democrats FIGURE THIS OUT.

[madaboutharry]

3. It's the same on the other side.

The republicans take plenty of their voters for granted as well. That is what long term marriage is about!

[FreakinDJ]

4. So you saw the Mockery they made of Impeachment hearings

that would sum it up pretty well

[Somawas]

5. I'm a progressive that the Democratic Party

had better not take for granted.

[LostinVA]

9. Same here

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. They didn't vote of Gore or Kerry.

[LostinVA]

10. This one did -- along with all the ones I know

[Lorien]

32. Same here. We won too-then had it stolen from us. n/t

[mitchtv]

11. last time I bolted was '68

I wrote in Mc Carthy.This time, I'm afraid I'm trapped ( that shows my level of enthusiasm)

[EFerrari]

18. You must be kidding. We held together a coalition for over two years

for Kerry. And it wasn't easy.

[MuseRider]

12. I hope they are not counting

on all those progressive votes. They might be a little surprised.

[pansypoo53219]

14. no they don't, unlike republikkkans who hate mcinsain, but will vote for him.

no, progressives go off and vote for nader or somebody 'purer'.

THAT IS WHY WE LOSE.

[bdf]

23. Wrong. But also right.

The democratic candidate won the 2000 election. The democratic candidate won the 2004 election. Neither put on particularly good campaigns but still won their elections. Bush stole both elections with vote-rigging.

But you're right about the need to pull together. Because these fuckers will try to steal this election too. The only thing thing that might prevent it is to have a sufficiently large majority that their vote-rigging isn't enough to cancel it out. But I'm not optimistic, because I think they don't care if their attempts are exposed. International observers, on seeing the large disparity between exit polls and election polls, said that the election was stolen (because exit polls reliably track election polls to within a couple of percentage points, except when there is vote rigging). The Rethugs said that exit polls were no longer reliable indicators. Americans just shrugged their shoulders, those that even knew of the controversy in the first place (which wasn't many).

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Which is why I'm a DINO.

I've been one since '68, when the Dems selected Humpty.

[readmoreoften]

21. Me too. Total Left-wing DINO here.

But I'm pretty sure all Democrats are DINOs these days, because I'm not sure what Democrat is anymore besides a name and a repository for people who aren't fascists.

[cbc5g]

19. Well they could pander to you and lose everytime

I'm progressive but I also know that most of the nation isn't or doesn't realize they are yet. We have to break the Republican strangle hold on peoples minds if we are going to have true progressive candidates win.

[LVjinx]

20. Or they can pander to Republicans and lose every time. Choices, choices.

[readmoreoften]

22. Or they could pander to Republicans and win us a largely Republican platform.

Hell, if we're lucky, we might even get a right-wing mandate.

[TexasObserver]

24. sounds familiar

sounds like something Ralph Nader would say

Ralph, is that you?

[bigmoon]

30. I didn't vote for Nader

n/t

[alarimer]

25. Not this one. Not anymore.

I am through with them. I think probably I'll sit this one out.

[Breeze54]

26. I will vote for a Progressive. They have that part right. n/t

[mdmc]

28. yes it is

but at least Nader, McKinney, and Barr are allowed to run for office.

[Individualist]

29. That's how DLC gained control of the party.

[Pastiche423]

33. Democrats are not the only progressives

Some Independants, like me, are more progressive than most Democrats.

But, I agree that it is sad and pathetic.