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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:28 PM
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Pelosi is really pissing me off.
Just read a copy of today's Time magazine. I'm not sure but I think there was a thread on this a few days ago. Regardless, this is about Nancy's response:
Q: Why have you taken impeachment off the table as an option for President George W. Bush?

A: I took it off the table a long time ago. You can't talk about impeachment unless you have the facts, and you can't have the facts unless you have cooperation from the Administration.

I'm sure you're all familiar with that quote by now.

Who the frick in their right mind is going to "cooperate" in their own impeachment??

What she says is basically that heck, "if they don't tell voluntarily us what they did, then we can't investigate."

Of course, why bother investigating if they've told us already? What's left to investigate? I see the administration likes to preserve at least the 5th Amendment to the Constitution, if not any of the others (except perhaps the one repealing prohibition).

The message that sends to the administration is obvious - don't cooperate and we won't investigate anything, and you won't be impeached.

This is the stupidest-ass reasoning I have ever heard of.

If it applies to the administration, and if all are equal in than the eyes of the law, then if someone murders someone, or sells drugs, or rapes their little child, as long as they refuse to cooperate then they won't be in trouble.

I swear, this really is an alternate universe. And I wouldn't be surprised to see a GOP commercial intone "Nancy Pelosi coddles criminals because she won't investigate wrong-doing unless they confess, so all they have to do is refuse to cooperate and they get off scott-free. What if your daughter was raped - would you want Nancy Pelosi in charge of keeping law and order where you live?"

And I wouldn't put it past them to try something like that. Quoting Cecil, "People today have the historical awareness of tree squirrels".

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:29 PM
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1. "We can't get murder cuz the guy won't confess!"
Where would "Law and Order" be with that attitude? Bum-BUM.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:30 PM
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2. Imagine if all law enforcement operated that way
"You can't talk about catching crooks unless you have the facts, and you can't have the facts unless you have cooperation from the crooks."

Oh what utter bullshit.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:36 PM
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3. "...cooperation from the crooks..."
We all LOVE Speaker Pelosi, and we all APPLAUD the way she has consistently kept each and every promise that got her into office...

ESPECIALLY the "no blank checks for Bush" promise in regard to the Iraq war.

God knows how bad off we'd be if Speaker Pelosi kept giving Bush everything he wanted, like some kind of Pavlov dog, where Bush pressed the bar and Speaker Pelosi wanted a pellet and that desire resulted in COMPLIANCE.

Yeah, we'd be pretty well screwed if Speaker Pelosi hadn't stood by her "no blank checks" PROMISE.

:grr:
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:37 PM
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4. I wonder if the repukes knew about this when they impeached Bill Clinton...
hmm.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:44 PM
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5. When the GOP Couldn't Find Any Facts, They Made Them Up
And they paid a pretty penny for the witnesses, too.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:50 PM
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6. Like I said:
Bought and paid for.

Damn corrupted traitor!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 09:01 PM
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7. And THAT, Ms Pelosi, is why we have "inherent contempt"
with which we can drag the administration in to testify before congress, under oath.

You have the power. Use it.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 09:53 PM
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12. I suspect "Inherent Contempt" is "off the table" too.
Though methinks she is not doing her duty to protect and defend the Constitution.

Are we the only ones left that understand this??
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bigmoon Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 09:20 PM
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8. Who votes for this woman?
n/t
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 09:36 PM
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9. The monied class of her district.
I lived there for a while. They're different from you and me.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 09:40 PM
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10. Easy, 233 Democratic members of the House voted for her as Speaker.
She represents one of the safest Democratic districts in the nation and won reelection in 2006 with 80% of the vote, her lowest total since 1990 when she only won with 77% of the vote. It is as much of an electoral lock that you could find that she will win again in November.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 09:43 PM
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11. Wow, she's such a genius. n/t k*r
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 10:17 PM
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13. Consider this .........
Clinton's biggest mistake was when Janet Reno authorized a special investigator - Kenneth Starr - to put together the facts regarding Clinton and whatever the hell it was that ended up with him lying about a blow job.

This administration will never consider such an authorization.

And that, my friends, is that.
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 10:24 PM
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14. Wow. What a complete and utter moron
I feel the need to apologize for 8 years of GW Bush bashing

He is apparently not the dumbest politician in DC

Looks like quite a scholar when compared to this dizzy bimbo
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 10:47 PM
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15. Maybe it's time to impeach Nancy Pelosi.
It even sounds silly to me. I know.

But refusing to impeach Bush for his known crimes, such as obstruction of justice, Nancy Pelosi is literally aiding the criminals.

I'm sorry to stick my neck out like this, but I don't see any other avenue.

Impeach Pelosi now.

It may just be that in doing so, we incur more problems than we have now.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 10:55 PM
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16. I've advocated for this
If she can't do HER constitutional duty to impeach Bush who's not doing his, then let's start with her and work our way up until we get to Bush.

If impeachment isn't for stuff like this, then what is it for?? Blow jobs? Excuse me - I didn't see that specificity written into the Constitution. I elected a President, not a Pope, and as far as I'm concered the 90's were a hell of a lot better the this last 8 years.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 11:57 AM
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17. Pelosi is actually a pretty intelligent person.
For her to be willing to play the fool like this is alarming.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:44 PM
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18. I never said she was dumb - that's what alarms me too

Either she has a very particular end-game in mind, or she's being forced into this by someone.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:52 PM
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19. Yeah - it'd be one thing if she'd always been a stooge.
For her to start stooging now (well, since 2006) is important. I read a post here on DU speculating that she maybe made a deal with them to not impeach if they didn't attack Iran.

If so I can only wonder what on earth could possibly have made her think they would honor any deals?
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 03:16 PM
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20. gah
Frustratin'
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 03:22 PM
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21. I wonder if she really said that or did Time Magazine just say she did?
Frankly, I don't trust the corporate media to tell the truth.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 04:46 PM
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22. She's said enough similar things on camera that
I don't doubt this stupidity flowed from her lips.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 06:28 PM
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23. Translation: "A lot of us were involved with it too."
And we can't get them without killing ourselves as well. The Neos are in both parties.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 06:34 PM
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24. It's time to impeach
and not just Cheney and Bush.

I hope voters do the right thing with a lot of our elected officials, DEM and repukes, who are only concerned with themselves and not the good of this country.
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