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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:27 PM
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Kucinich up on our House Floor now! IMPEACHMENT
He is introducing a new article of Impeachment against Bush.

I hope this one sticks...

Watch:

http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN_rm.aspx
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:28 PM
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1. Here it is.....
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:28 PM
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2. Finally! I thought Blunt and Hoyer were holding the floor! ... n/t
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:28 PM
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3. ooh
CSPAN HAS NICE kyron
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:32 PM
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5. IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTION in big letters at top of screen. Yay! n/t
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:31 PM
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4. Kick! .....n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:34 PM
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9. Kucinich should have been the Dems Nominee.
America's Dem Party is pathetic.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:51 PM
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20. Yup.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:56 PM
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24. He most definately SHOULD have been
But he never would be allowed to. TPTB made sure of that.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:00 PM
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28. Hear, hear!
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:00 PM
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30. Yes, corporate media shut him down or marginalized him :( n/t
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:42 PM
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50. ...as did DLC.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:51 PM
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53. Yes and thanks for the necessary addition. n/t
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 04:52 PM by slipslidingaway
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:02 PM
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32. Absofuckinglutely!!!!!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:49 PM
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51. I can proudly sing in this choir!
Dennis Kucinich....one of the FEW Democrats left in Washington.


http://www.pdamerica.org/


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:01 PM
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55. Only 28 in the Senate now....
:(
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:51 PM
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52. Yes. But he's not.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:32 PM
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6. He's quoting the lies word by word! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:33 PM
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7. It's nice to listen to a sane person for a few minutes.
Go, Dennis.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:33 PM
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8. Still my hero. nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:35 PM
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10. Is anyone else in the House?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:36 PM
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12. I was wondering the same thing. Seems empty. n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:05 PM
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I hear LOTS of clapping!!!
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 04:06 PM by Breeze54
:D

They clappers are being chastised. :(

Oh well! :rofl:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:35 PM
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11. Text - Draft Version of New Article of Impeachment
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34684

He's reading the details of item # 1
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:37 PM
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13. Thank you for the link!
Love being able to follow along.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:38 PM
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14. Me too and you're welcome n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:42 PM
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16. Is the rumor true that Ms. Pelosi is allowing Impeachment to
be placed back on the table? Isn't she the House Boss?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:46 PM
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18. Not sure, I'll believe it when I see it. Article below...
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0708/Pelosi_says_House_Judiciary_may_hold_hearings_on_Kucinich_impeachment_resolution.html

"Pelosi says House Judiciary may hold hearings on Kucinich impeachment resolution

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said this morning that the House Judiciary Committee may hold hearings on an impeachment resolution offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio).

Kucinich is expected to offer a "privileged resolution" this afternoon calling on the House to look at whether President Bush should be removed from office for lying to Congress and the American public when he sought congressional approval back in 2002 for taking military action to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein.

Pelosi has said previously that impeachment "was off the table," so her comments this morning were surprising, and clearly signaled a new willingness to entertain the idea of ousting Bush, although no one in the Democratic leadership believes that is likely since the president has only six months left in this term.

"This is a Judiciary Committee matter, and I believe we will see some attention being paid to it by the Judiciary Committee," Pelosi told reporters. "Not necessarily taking up the articles of impeachment because that would have to be approved on the floor, but to have some hearings on the subject."



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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:39 PM
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15. THE real patriot!
:applause:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:42 PM
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17. Committee Chairman John Conyers - 202-225-3951
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34681

"On Thursday Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who had already introduced 3 articles of impeachment against Cheney and 35 against Bush introduced a single article of impeachment against Bush charging him with misleading Congress into a war on Iraq. Also on Thursday, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told the media that she expected the Judiciary Committee to consider the matter. And Kucinich held a press conference at which he said that what he wants is an opportunity to present his proposals to the Judiciary Committee.

Let's make sure that Committee Chairman John Conyers grants this request. Phone him now at 202-225-3951. Post here what he tells you.

If you're able to speak with Conyers or his staff at any length, please remind them that Bush and Cheney and members of their administration are refusing to comply with numerous subpoenas and even contempt citations, as well as refusing to answer questions by claiming "executive privilege." During an impeachment hearing, there is no executive privilege. The Judiciary Committee should hold an impeachment hearing of Bush and Cheney on refusal to comply with oversight. It's the fastest way to justice and the only chance of establishing any oversight.

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:46 PM
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19. He's now talking about the Manning memo, Vincent Bugliosi emphasized this too...
... on Mike Malloy the other night! Said it was far more damning than Downing Street Memos.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:51 PM
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21. 5. Iraq had no connection with the attacks of 9/11,
or with al-Qaida's role in 9/11.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34684
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:54 PM
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22. OUR House Floor...I like the way you said that...gotta start saying it that way myself!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:55 PM
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23. I can't get in...C-Span must have a lot of traffic... argh!!
:argh:

Thanks for the heads up though!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:59 PM
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25. Success!!... finally!
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 04:01 PM by Breeze54
Go DK!!! :woohoo:


IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY et all !!!!

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:59 PM
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26. Here's the draft text, currently on #7
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34684

""A substantial amount of Iraq's chemical warfare agents, precursors, munitions and production equipment were destroyed between 1991 and 1998 as a result of Operation Desert Storm and United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) actions. . . . There is no reliable information on whether Iraq is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons or whether Iraq has--or will--establish its chemical warfare agent production facilities." Defense Intelligence Agency. Iraq--Key WMD Facilities--An Operational Support Study. September 2002. Available: http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2003/06/dod060703.pdf"

# 8 up now

:hi:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:00 PM
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29. Thanks!! I got in! I hear him and see him now!
:hi:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:02 PM
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33. The main reason to Impeach Bush & Cheney even now is
avoid a disastrously War with Iran.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:04 PM
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34. I'd agree with that but we have a LOT of reasons to impeach those lying criminals!!!
:grr:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:08 PM
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38. EXACTLY...who is challenging Bush on Iran ???
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 03:59 PM
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27. Thanks
Go Dennis!
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:02 PM
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31. He's giving Congress an out in his statements.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:05 PM
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35. Gallery cheering n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:05 PM
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36. Yes...
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34684

"...Congress relied on the information provided to it by the President of the United States. Congress provided the President with the authorization to use military force that he requested. As a consequence of the fraudulent representations made to the Congress, the United States Armed Forces, under the direction of George Bush as Commander in Chief, pursuant to Section 3 of the Authorization for the Use of Force which President Bush requested, invaded Iraq and occupies it to this day, at the cost of 4,116 lives of US service men and women, injuries to over 30,000 of our troops, the deaths of over 1,000,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, the destruction of Iraq, and a long term cost over $3 trillion.

President Bush's misrepresentations to Congress to induce passage of a use of force resolution is subversive of the Constitutional system of checks and balances, destructive of Congress' sole prerogative to declare war under Article I Section 8 of the Constitution, and is therefore a High Crime. An even greater offense by the President of the United States occurs in his capacity as Commander in Chief, because he knowingly placed the men and women of the United States Armed Forces in harm’s way, jeopardizing their lives and their families' future, for reasons that to this date have not been established in fact.

In all of these actions and decisions, President George W. Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and Commander in Chief, and subversive of constitutional government, to the prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States and of those members of the Armed Forces who put their lives on the line pursuant to the falsehoods of the President. Wherefore, President George W. Bush, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office."

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:08 PM
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37. Um, will the press be informing the public of this?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:10 PM
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39. Who knows
They own CSpan.
Skelton speaking now.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:14 PM
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42. Who 'owns' C-Span?
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 04:15 PM by Breeze54
Brian Lamb, C-SPAN's chairman and CEO, conceived of C-SPAN while working at Cablevision,
a cable industry trade magazine, as their Washington D.C. bureau chief.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-SPAN#C-SPAN_and_Copyright

C-SPAN (officially, the Cable-Satellite Public Affairs Network) is an American cable television network dedicated to airing non-stop coverage of government proceedings and public affairs programming.

In addition to C-SPAN Radio and the C-SPAN website, C-SPAN is made up of several television channels:

* C-SPAN features live coverage of the House of Representatives
* C-SPAN2 covers the Senate and airs Book TV on weekends
* C-SPAN3 covers other live events and airs archived historical programming

The bulk of C-SPAN's operations are located on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., but they also maintain archives in West Lafayette, Indiana at the Purdue Research Park under the direction of Professor Robert X. Browning.

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Following

In its early days, cable companies tried to replace C-SPAN with revenue-producing channels. As stated above, C-SPAN is funded by the cable industry; thus, the industry loses money airing C-SPAN. However, C-SPAN had developed somewhat of a "cult following" among political junkies and citizens who had always wanted to see what was really happening with their elected officials. Avid C-SPAN viewers often refer to themselves as "C-SPAN Junkies," "SPANners," or "Spanheads".

Over time, the cable companies and the general public realized that C-SPAN provided a desired and much needed public service; a "window" into the operations of Congress. C-SPAN has never had the ratings of major networks, but its devoted following <4> <5> ensured that it would remain part of the cable industry, and all attempts at replacing it with other channels have long ceased.(citation needed)

In 2007, Brian Lamb was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, primarily for founding and running C-SPAN. Appropriately, the award ceremony was broadcast by C-SPAN.

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C-SPAN and Copyright

On March 7, 2007 C-SPAN liberalized its copyright policy for current, future, and past coverage of any official events sponsored by Congress and any federal agency and now allows for non-commercial copying, sharing, and posting of C-SPAN video on the Internet, with attribution. <6>

Prior to this change, C-SPAN engaged in numerous actions to stop parties from making unauthorized uses of their content online including cases where the footage is the House and Senate proceedings. For example, Dem Bloggers received a take down request for clips they had posted. <7> In May 2006, C-SPAN requested the removal of the Stephen Colbert performance at the White House Correspondent's Dinner from YouTube while allowing it to remain on Google Video <8>, causing concern from web bloggers. <9>

Websites such as metavid and voterwatch.org make House and Senate video records freely available. C-SPAN contested metavid usage of C-SPAN video which resulted in metavid taking down portions of the archive which were produced with C-SPAN's cameras while maintaining an archive of government produced content. <10>

On December 14th 2006 C-SPAN wrote an open letter to Speaker Designate Nancy Pelosi requesting that floor proceedings be covered by C-SPAN cameras. This would put the floor footage under the same restrictive license as C-SPAN produced content.<11> The request was denied <12>
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:18 PM
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46. It's funded by the Cable companies
M$M.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:00 PM
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54. But as I posted, the video's and speeches are widely used and spread!
;)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:10 PM
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40. They did when he introduced the 35 Articles!! It was all over the M$M!! n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:12 PM
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41. Editing your post for an ommission...
:sarcasm:


:)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:17 PM
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44. LOL
:D
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:17 PM
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45. We could start a trend :)) n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:15 PM
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43. One-sixth of Iraq's residents displaced – UN
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:19 PM
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47. Currently on the House floor - trigger happy regime of Iran n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:20 PM
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48. The Texas warmongers are very visible this week
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 04:23 PM by malaise
as they push Bush's agenda. :puke:

Tell Walter Jones to tell Bush to let the media cover funerals and show dead soldiers. This hypocrisy won't spin.

add
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:40 PM
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49. Yes...Trying to find out when the vote will be on this bill...
It now has 231 cosponsors :(

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc110-362

"H. Con. Res. 362: Expressing the sense of Congress regarding the threat posed to international peace,...

Expressing the sense of Congress regarding the threat posed to international peace, stability in the Middle East, and the vital national security interests of the United States by Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons and regional hegemony, and for other purposes."


And Conyers is still deciding on impeachment :(


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