Market collapse or mass financial abuse?

[undergroundpanther]

I hear about how people are struggling to make ends meet and this definition of financial abuse really fits...what is happening to us.

Financial abuse is the abuse of a system, person or group of persons whereby the aggrieved party is unfairly or illegally, severely or even minimally, compromised in his or her life savings or income.

http://financialabuse.org/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2972774&mesg_id=2975981
http://jmooneyham.com/bmil.html

When a resource is driven up in cost because of rich people gambling on future trading until it is impossible to make ends meet and we people who built their wealth for them ,suffer it means We are being ABUSED... financially abused by the wealthiest few,who systematically exploit us,and crush us under unreasonable demands for more time,more sacrifices,more productivity,for,less and less in return...
http://revcom.us/a/v23/1130-39/1136/enron_collapse.htm
http://cupe.ca/PrivatizationUtilities/ART3f719b0a8bd00
When the wealthiest few set about in closed door meetings to rig the system,so that many cannot make ends meet or change the circumstances that are hurting them ..It means
We are being financially abused.
http://www.imaginaryfutures.net/2006/10/08/ipe-lecture-8/

When the wealthy ship jobs overseas to avoid safety regulations paying minimum wage and paying taxes and they hire immigrants for below substience wages,or make them slaves it means.. We all are being financially abused.

When the social safety net is destroyed,people left to die in disasters by a government we pay taxes to to provide these services to us fail us vbecause social welfare programs to help us have been are defunded and social security is robbed bare,realize WE ARE BEING FINANCIALLY ABUSE!!!

When people protesting this abusive injustice and inequality problem in the systems of politics and markets peacefully and our cries for help are met with police on horses cracking heads with batons and riot cops to intimidate us ,and active denial pain rays,when whistle blowers on the corruption are dissapeared or smeared it means we are being systematically ABUSED by the tyrants in our own country.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hf6yWA-Py8lkVH7v95rDmLNbYqBAD91C0ID00

What I see happening is very similar to the tyrannical dynamics of an abuser in a dysfunctional home.
http://www.hiddenhurt.co.uk/Abuser/dynamics.htm

When our privacy is invaded every email read phone call tapped and exchange observed,and we are forced to comply
http://www.lawguru.com/cgi/bbs/message.php?i=294180797&view=q
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/deborah-orr/deborah-orr-sexual-abuse-a-warning-we-mustnt-ignore-786161.html

..or else..while elitist fucks like Rove can lie in court and oil excecutives are not really questioned and white collar criminals who rob pension funds never get jail time,it means we the people are being ABUSED by a double standard,that protects the abusers at OUR expense..
A double standard is unfair. It means that the abuser, for example, can demand immediate compliance with his or her wishes but the abused person cannot.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2840064
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_standard
http://www.jmooneyham.com/your-true-chances-of-getting-rich.html

When we tolerate such abuse financially and we are forced to work to exhaustion having no time to live it is because we believe we are helpless and we believe the lies and manipulations of the abuser!
http://ranprieur.com/readings/jensenbox.html


If the greatest weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed, then perhaps the greatest victory for the corporate class has been the general acceptance among the masses of the inevitability of capitalism as the only viable system for running the world...
When we attack each other,blame each other,we are identifying with the abuser instead of our humanity, instead of attacking the source of our collective pain, we are not confronting the people abusing us, the causers of our suffering the scams and the corrupt,we let them off the hook,and refusing to aknowlege the financially abusive situation we are suffering from clearly for what it IS.

http://www.unknownnews.org/060502a-Panther.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2563061
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1631802

By denying the corrupted and malicious sources of our strife(the market system & deregulation the wealthy lobbied for)We deny the abusive the abandonment and consequences they deserve,they need,to control thier abusive habits or else....(the wealthy abusive elitists)
http://www.jmooneyham.com/bright.html
http://www.unknownnews.org/070217a-Panther.html
How long will people continue to suffer abuses by those in power like battered people? How long will people sacrifice themselves to protect the abusers and let them continue to financially abuse us at our expense? Are you willing to die for false belief that abusers tell us to obey? Or not? Do you know the rulers have no right to dominate us? That authority is nothing but an illusion?
http://ponerology.blogspot.com/

....For some reason, the American people at large believe they are no better than the abuse that is given to them. They tolerate the mismanagement of their resources, the destruction of liberties, unnecessary taxes and foreign wars because they think this is all they are worth.
http://www.demandmore.org/2007/11/19/tolerating-abuse/
Could it be the way we live traumatizes us,and it has been this way for so long we have accepted this as"normal life"?

In abuse situations it has a pattern of increasing severity until it becomes intolerable to be in the"relationship" any longer.

As the abuser realizes he is losing control there are fewer and fewer options for escaping the situation non violently, the longer we deny this and tolerate it the pressure builds.That intolerable need to get out from under the elites oppressive greed,grows the time of awakening of society to the reality of abuse on a mass scale is fast approaching.We know the abusers will resist giving up control and those lavish lifestyles. But we must make it so either they stop abusing us,let us live or we sacrifice yet again by bucking under and taking it,Eventually we will feel so much pent up anger deprivation,,frustration and resentment,at what the elites have done to us ...Things will explode.

When the truth that we have been financially abused for generations,what we have TOLERATED, for WHAT? Why?.. becomes consious, we awaken en masse to how long we have been exploited and lied to and led to hurt ourselves and each other for NOTHING..and if we cannot convince the abusers to stop realize nothing can appease them or can force them to stop abusing us at that time..You can be sure their blood will be running in the streets as the hungry and hurt seek relief from ther long repressed suffering through the social catharsis of revolution..that offers release but no solution..
http://neelmanijbhatia.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/literature-social-idiom-social-catharsis.htm
http://www.healingmagic.org/avoiceforfreedom/Final1.html

We who see this process have to be aware of the dynamics of social change and personal change,to be there afterwards to help people see for themselves why this happens and help to ensure certain toxic personalities do not have access to power and wealth to abuse entire nations of people again.

So the elites have a choice to make ,NOW.. either they come clean with all the corruption and games thefts and abuses,take their punishments,learn to contain their insatiable greed,and overweening ambition for more control and power. Just stop the financial abuse of we the people, right now..

Or you fucking elite wastes of skin can wait for the pressure to rise from the bottom up, until it is at your door as the resources to survive are sucked into the coffiers of the rich until the people awaken with nothing for their efforts to appease and play your rigged game, deciding it is time to fight the power,because thier lives depend on it.At that point there are no more choices for the elite exploiters,except to die a well earned death at the hands of those they exploited..or try to hide from the inevitable.

The people the elites abused,have been trained to believe they were weak and the society that accepted abuse convinced them they are to blame for all their failures in their lives .Tormented lonely people who believed they had to stay in line and bow because they feared the threats of force when they were atomized,all alone..before the hardships of financial abuse drove them into each others homes to survive. When the elites keep people atomized the insanity caused by inequality and domination is tenuously controlled through threats and media spectacles act as a soma as violence rises and mental illness claim many people along with suicide,stress related illnesses and trauma.The suffering and pain the inequality of power causes builds from the bottom up...When a big majority of people are suffering.I think when enough people will finally see who and what their true oppressors are,and realize it is not each other, but the burdens that are created,caused and exploited by the wealthy elite.Things will change when the enchanting lie of the "american dream" is broken upon the sharp rocks of the reality that we are all being abused and it has gone on for a long,long time.And history does NOT have to repeat itself.

[Bob Dobbs]

1. Eat the Rich.

They will probably just give us cancer, though.

The corpses of a few masters of the universe rotting in the middle of Wall Street would go a long way to making our point.

Not undeserved at this point.

[tbyg52]

13. Heh. A modest proposal. nt

[SoCalDem]

2. the ones in charge NEVER accept any responsibility for stuff that just "happens"

mortgage fraud= meltdown
credit card fraud= crunch
dot com fraud= bubble pop
energy manipulation= brownouts
repo fever= housing bubble burst

These things just magically "haopen"..like leprechauns were in charge

[htuttle]

3. "Mistakes were made" -- even when the powers that be finally admit an error...

...they always use that passive voice, as though the mistakes made themselves happen.

"Whoops! Look, a mistake happened!"

[undergroundpanther]

4. Like..

Ooops honey..I didn't mean to stab you in your kidney,the knife was in my hand,you were there yelling at me for drinking and such being a harpy like usual and well uhh shit happens..
Similar scams aren't they by similar scum.

[Psyop Samurai]

10. You got it -- there can't be any accountability in passive voice world...

...because there are no actors.

There is only an endless maze of plausible deniability.

Did y'all hear the latest on torture? It happened because a TV program is "influencing the newest recruits". To remedy the problem, a brigadier general "visited the set" of the TV show to request that they "cut down" on torture scenes, and the star of the show is going to teach West Point army cadets that torture is bad.

http://www.hollywood.com/news/US_Army_Invites_Sutherland_to_Give_Anti_Torture_Speech/3662740

[undergroundpanther]

12. LOL

that is ludicrous. Why don't we give all the fucking psychopath pigs in power a demonstration of why torture is bad, by putting them through it just as they ordered it to be done to others..That might really put an end to those cowardly nitwits who voted for this shit and continue to cave in to the executive's demands to get away with war crimes without thinking of what they are signing into law in congress will do to people.

Plausible deniability is the bullies best friend,and it is bullshit,people believe when they think they cannot act, Plausible deniability is the cowards best excuse to stand by wring their hands and do nothing to stop the bully as the bully destroys people, ya know.

There is nothing like being hurt really bad and being helpless to stop it ..to cure one of those stupid just world fantasies in people's heads that give them feel good illusions of being in control of their lives.

And some in congress ,and corporations and other places of power politically are infested with that sickening pronoia disease and it makes them have no real sense of empathy,urgency in restoring justice to victims, it undermines their sense of morality. The just world belief system needs to be destroyed. It really does..It might not feel good to admit this world is a abusive, vicious, uncontrollable,unpredictable,hostile, unjust place, but facing the reality that this world our cultures are abusive and unjust is the first step to being capable of actually changing it.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

5. It's like they deliberately set out to destroy the poor and middle class.

How were they able to do this in just 7 years?

You almost have to believe they had a plan.

[undergroundpanther]

8. They did.

It's called"the ownership society"a society where the corporations own the workers.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/30/17457/3924
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/15/bush-administration-invoked-an-obscure-banking-clause-1863-to-enable-predatory-lending-practices/
http://www.alternet.org/story/41305/

[bluesmail]

6. What came first the chicken or the egg? n/t

[undergroundpanther]

7. the bully boy came first

he built a posse around himself,than he learned to manipulate and con,to bully and steal,to take advantage, to take and never give ,and over time they became the gang of assholes you see in the whitehouse today.

[Psyop Samurai]

9. "Could it be the way we live traumatizes us,...

...and it has been this way for so long we have accepted this as "normal life"?

It would appear so.

Here's how I arrived at that unfortunate perspective...

After years of yelling and screaming at people to wake up, I had a devastating epiphany.

You see, I finally heard what they were saying. I had not heard because it was inconceivable to me.

It would seem the majority of people are working from a deeply entrenched operative premise that "there's nothing we can do". It is a state of learned helplessness in the face of authority, that is deeply rooted in childhood conditioning. The scope of the problem is so vast and overwhelming, that I'm left no room for optimism in my lifetime. We need to be looking forward generations or centuries, and, of course, by any rational measure, we don't have that kind of time.

Appreciate your depth of perspective, up. Your posts warrant more response than they get, (and more than I can give at the moment, but I am bookmarking and kicking).

[undergroundpanther]

11. Thank you

and please check your PM.