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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 03:50 PM Original message |
The Assoiciate Press wants to charge you $12.50 to quote five words from them |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. I have no such uncertainty about this... it is the path to fascism |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's crap, and will get the legal smack down. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. "Welcome to a world in which you won’t be able to effectively criticize the press" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Or at people who don't know the rules. n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I don't see why there has to be a distinction. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. The subset is people who get intimidated and don't c&p |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. So what about if you cull the information and rewrite it in your own words? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Nope, that would be plagiarism |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No. It wouldn't be plagiarism. Hey, Cleita. |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Be my guest but I think I am educated enough to write |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. That isn't the issue. Getting news out is. n/t |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I think a good blogger and writer can get news out using the AP |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:20 PM Original message |
Researchers use each other's work daily. |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yes, but the copyright holder still gets to decide who |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. No, the copyright holder doesn't get to decide. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. It may get to that. LOL n.t |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. no, plagiarism is exactly copying and not giving credit but passing it off as your own |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. So, you can re-word anyone's book |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Not if it's a work of fiction |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Yes, citing the sources you used, giving credit for the work used |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. It's not the same |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. The AP is publishing books now? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. No that I know of, but a book is the same as an OP |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. if it's news, it's not an "idea," no copyright on news events, just on |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. I don't think they could do anything. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. I say fuck 'em. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Me too. Newsgathering monopolized by a few corps, & you can't |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. TITLE SEVENTEEN of US Copyright Law and FAIR USE |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. But the proof of fair use is on the user, not the copyright holder |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. This will end up in court, mark my words |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No doubt |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. The proof is "on" the plaintiff in a civil action |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
30. when i was in school, you could quote as much as you liked, as long |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
33. It will make life a bit harder |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
34. This was removed from LBN. WTF. |
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