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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 02:34 PM
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Committed suicide in front of his troops
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/06/military_suicide_060808w/

From a Greg Mitchell post at dkos

McKinney had been on the scene after a 500-pound bomb left five of his soldiers and an Iraqi interpreter dead; he was in a vehicle when another bomb blew up just two feet away, almost killing him and his men; he had consoled a soldier who lost a leg to a roadside bomb.

And he had stopped eating, stopped sleeping and become convinced he was not doing enough to keep his soldiers safe.

But even after a soldier found him sitting in a wooden supply shack, staring emptily into space, even after his face grew gaunt from weight loss, even after he was unable to form the thoughts necessary to give a morning briefing, McKinney kept going out on patrol.

And that is the part that everyone -- soldiers, commanders and family -- must now struggle with, each and every day....

As of May 3, 139 soldiers, 25 Marines and seven sailors have killed themselves in the Iraq and Afghanistan war zones, according to Pentagon data.

Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, more suffer from depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injury and other problems. But getting combat vets to seek help is difficult.

Studies by the Army, the Defense Department, Rand Corp. and others cite the same reasons why troops with mental health issues don't seek help: fear of being seen as "weak," inadequate access to care, concern that asking for help can hurt a career, and guilt about letting battle buddies go out on patrol without them.

Among the troubling factors is that, like McKinney, many of those who choose suicide aren't young first-tour junior troops. Forty-seven percent of soldiers who have killed themselves in theater are older than 30. And half were in paygrades E-5 or above. Experts are concerned that it's harder to spot signs of potential suicide in such war-hardened veterans.

McKinney's family believes that if his chain of command had paid closer attention to the symptoms, his death might have been avoided. And they hope that by talking about it now, months after his death, they might help prevent other suicides.
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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 02:46 PM
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1. Kick.....nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 02:48 PM
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2. What we're doing to our soldiers...there are no words.
I'm kind of offended that DU is full of Democrats sniping at one another today over things, when this is staring us in the face.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 03:16 PM
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3. Support Our Troops - BRING THEM HOME111
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:38 PM
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24. You have got the right solution. I second that.....
BRING THEM HOME!!!
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 03:17 PM
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4. Pry them out of that hellhole
and bring them home. :kick:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 03:20 PM
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5. Meanwhile, Dick "5 deferments" Cheney's stock portfolio
of well performing MIC companies continues to outpace the general economy. I hope he gets a perpetual Iraq War nightmare to suffer through personally, for enabling this one to occur.
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B.S. Lewis Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:56 PM
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15. that's awesome
do you have a link?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:34 PM
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16. Sure do!
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B.S. Lewis Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:48 AM
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17. that was easy enough
thanks.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 03:21 PM
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6. my
heart aches for this dear man- and all who loved him.

peace~
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 03:48 PM
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7. McLame doesn't feel that it's "too important" about the troops
in Iraq staying there.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 04:06 PM
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10. so, what fear will they use to inspire voters to migrate toward McBush
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 04:01 PM
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8. The link has "gone AWOL"
Got another source?
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 04:45 PM
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11. The dkos URL
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:50 PM
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13. Thank you very much
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 04:02 PM
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9. Victory at all costs
McSenile defines "victory" in Iraq as a time "when there are no more casualties."

Do you think suicides of our troops count as "casualties" in his world?
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:48 PM
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14. it certainly does count. i cant get a handle on what the hell a victory is in the first place.
not from any right winger i know. drives me nuts.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 04:47 PM
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12. K/R nt
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:22 AM
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18. How can the generals live with themselves?
How can the high-ranking officers in our armed forces live with themselves?

They know that to protect this country, they often have to send men into situations where they die. But they traditionally did everything they could for their men.

Someone like Omar Bradley was honored by the lowest grunt private because of his consideration for his men. A general who abuses his troops - or even appears to, like Patton's famous slapping incident - is disliked and demoted. Or at least, they used to be demoted.

How can these men tolerate a situation where their soldiers are shattered by war and driven to suicide? As someone who grew up in a military family, who never fell in with the New Left, and who sympathized with soldiers all his life, I can't imagine these generals taking the devastation of our armed forces casually.


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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:58 PM
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19. This is how the REPUBLICANS Support the troops (nt)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:02 PM
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20. Here's the link to the Army Times article
For those of ya wanting to see the original article, it's here ==> http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/06/military_suicide_060808w/
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pagandem4justice Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:13 PM
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21. The original link is good, but...
The DU link script is cutting off the trailing / (backslash), which seems to be necessary. Add it in and you're golden. Or, use the link from the Kos page. I'll try a coded hyperlink here: Army Times Article


First Sgt. Jeff McKinney had earned the trust of his soldiers. "Those were his kids," his mother said. "He looked out for them."

Damn all the warmongers in this country's government to hell. :grr:


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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:25 PM
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22. If any of you haven't signed the "Stand Up for Veterans" petition yet,
here's the link:

http://www.standup4vets.org/TakeAction/SignThePetition.htm


My husband and I recently met a young vet suffering from PTSD. He's been told it will be AT LEAST a year-and-a-half before he will be "eligible" for mental health services.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:21 PM
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23. So tragic and utterly unnecessary... damn this "war"
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 02:23 PM by ailsagirl
Thanks for posting.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:39 PM
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25. "The Horror . . ."
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