Brigitte Bardot Convicted Of Provoking Racial Hatred

[CatWoman]

PARIS — A Paris court on Tuesday convicted Brigitte Bardot of provoking discrimination and racial hatred for writing that Muslims are destroying France.

The court also handed down a $23,325 fine against the former screen siren and animal rights campaigner.

A leading French anti-racism group known as MRAP filed a lawsuit last year over a letter she sent to then-Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy. The remarks were published in her foundation's quarterly journal.

In the December 2006 letter to Sarkozy, now the president, Bardot said France is "tired of being led by the nose by this population that is destroying us, destroying our country by imposing its acts."

She was referring to the Muslim feast of Aid el-Kebir, celebrated by slaughtering sheep.

French anti-racism laws prevent inciting hatred and discrimination on racial or religious or racial grounds. Bardot, 73, had been convicted four times previously for inciting racial hatred.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03/brigitte-bardot-convicted_n_104861.html

[Laughing Mirror]

1. all that hating takes its toll

[Bob Dobbs]

4. And how has hatefulness taken its toll on you.

She's 73, jerk.

Dissing radical fundamentalists for perverse animal sacrifice rites is hardly hate.

[Laughing Mirror]

5. 73 is not so old

I think it's the hateful bigotry she has not stopped displaying over the past decades that's turned this once icon of beauty into something hideous. The alcohol probably hasn't helped much either.

[lonestarnot]

9. ackety!

[CatWoman]

10. you know

that's really fucked up.

Really it is.

[Laughing Mirror]

15. Yes, she is

Really she is. She and her husband.

[CatWoman]

25. like your "downstairs parts"?

[Laughing Mirror]

27. Guilty!

Where's that *wink* smiley gone to?

[countryjake]

20. What a bigot looks like has no bearing on the hatred they promote!

You insult your argument (which I agree with, by the way) by stooping to the ridicule of a woman's appearance.

If she were unwrinkled and dyed, would that make the hatred she espouses acceptable?

[Laughing Mirror]

22. How do you explain the nasty Dick Cheney's perma-prest scowl?

Same principle at operation here with Cheney, just to cite an example, as it is with Bardot. If you think ugly thoughts about people all the time, it's going to fix in your face, the older you get.

[countryjake]

23. Well, I happen to think the face you've posted is not ugly,

just as I could care less what any of the Cabal-in-Power's faces look like...their physical appearance is the least of our problems.

Weakening a position by resorting to superficial criticism does nothing to further anyone's cause. Plenty of real offenses to discuss, without resorting to another destructive form of bigotry (which you've exhibited).

Sorry, no need to put down people for their looks, in any case.

[Laughing Mirror]

26. Bardot would never had a career as a sex symbol were it not for her looks

Putting other people down as she started losing those looks and that career was her sad response.

[countryjake]

40. And yet you perpetuate that "sex symbol" crap by harping on...

what she supposedly has lost?

Hey, people age! Nobody is immune to the passage of time, no matter how good or nasty they may be, or whatever "career" they may have worked at. I'm not sure whether you're being deliberately bull-headed about this (for sport) or that you're simply so inured in your own sexist and ageist viewpoints, that you fail to grasp how you're weakening any argument you wish to wage on the point of Bardot's own bigotry.

Can you honestly answer the question which I asked in my first post, please?

[Virginia Dare]

21. Or maybe it was just time?

I will give Ms. Bardot props for not trying to look 25 for the rest of her life, like some of those aging beauty queens do.

[Laughing Mirror]

24. Real true beauty exists outside of time, but can shine through time, no matter how old you are

Perhaps when Bardot finally completely loses it with the madness of having to constantly process all that compounded hate and disdain for people she's afraid of, she'll suddenly know some kind of peace, and the beauty that is there in her at her core as it is in all of is, but covered up by what her maddened mind has done to her, will reappear.

Doris Day, at least 10 years senior to Bardot, also had an animal foundation. But whatever good she did for animals, I never heard of her spouting off hateful sentiments about her fellow human beings. I have heard Brigitte Bardot do this over and over again in the past 25 years on French TV. She was still flashing her legs and thighs for the cameras into the 1990s on those occasional televised diatribes of hers against people or countries who didn't treat animals the way she, Brigitte Bardot wanted them treated. And, incredibly, she was filmed behind gauze, like some of those aging beauty queens would do.

[mitchtv]

28. she looks ok

But I am old too. I am unfortunately a carnivore, so I can't agree with her that much, But as a Gay I am frightened by the medieval and anti Democratic customs being dragged into Europe by practitioners of Islam, They are not the only ones however, as Eastern Europe is rife with fanatically anti Gay Orthodox and RC fanatics too ie Poland and Russia. The most liberal democracies like Holland and Sweden have problems owing to their welcoming policies. Religion should be secondary to the state.

[Laughing Mirror]

37. While I'm gay too, as you know, and so my ears prick up ...

when I hear right-wing lunatics such as that other beauty queen Anita Bryant, like Brigitte Bardot, going off on gays, not to mention other minorities in France. Makes me suspect somebody could pretend to love animals so much.

[mitchtv]

39. Kind of like wondering how

religious people can hate others who are different

[Cerridwen]

30. So, you're saying if someone grows old and doesn't fit the contemporary

standard of beauty, it must be because they are filled with hate? Is that a standard you apply to men and women?

What if they started out "ugly"? They were "born" filled with hate? What if they were cute as a child but turned into an ugly teenager? They learned hate?

So, people who are "beautiful" are kind and compassionate? What if they were born the ugly duckling then became the swan? Guess that means they were born filled with hate and grew to be kind and compassionate.

Equating someone's looks with the who they are is a person is medieval to say the least; shallow to say the most.

Please, while we're on the topic, do post your picture so we can all see your beautiful, youthful self as proof of your kind, compassionate soul and judge you by your standards. Too bad we can't see into the future. I'd love to see how beautiful and youthful looking you are in 50 years or so.

If you'd like to see more pictures of "ugly" people who do not fit contemporary beauty standards, and so must be (have been) by your standards, filled with hate, I suggest you go to google images and look up:

Helen Thomas
Abraham Lincoln
Bella Abzug
Mother Theresa
Ghandi
The "historical" Jesus
Albert Einstein
Galileo Galilei

If you think you can judge a person's worth or intent by their looks, I know a beautiful young woman over here with a bridge to sell you...cheap. Don't worry, you can tell just by looking at her that she's honest and trustworthy.

[Laughing Mirror]

32. I went to Google and look who I found

[Cerridwen]

35. Are you equating her with Ghandi or Bella Abzug?

Lincoln or Einstein?

Or do you just need help with reading comprehension in order to understand the point I made?

edit for punctuation

[Laughing Mirror]

38. I'm showing what the suffering from so much hate does to a person's appearance

Obviously Gandhi, Abzug, Lincoln, Einstein did not suffer from that.

[Cerridwen]

41. Which pretty much denies your theory of a person's worth being shown

in their appearance.

You've also avoided responding to any of the points in my post.

To see what "hatred" or "evil" look like, head back over to google images and look up:

Mata Hari
"Tokyo Rose"
Bonnie Parker
George Hennard
Ted Bundy
John Gotti
Ian Brady
Eva Braun

Amazing how little "beauty" has to do with "goodness" and how little "ugly" has to do with "evil." Especially now we have photo-retouching and airbrushes to make even the most venal person into something desirable.

And some wonder why we get the "elected" officials we get.

[izquierdista]

2. Religious or racial

How did these two dissimilar things get joined at the hip? To take a page from the religious right, what we are talking about here isn't genetic, it's a choice of lifestyle -- religion, that is, not race.

If people are tired of being discriminated against because they have some bizarre belief in the completely unverifiable, that is a lifestyle choice, not something that they were born with. Well, not genetically at least. It is true that one's religion is HIGHLY correlated with what one was exposed to as a very young child, before the faculties of reason were fully developed.

I'm not going to say that people with odd ideas about things of a spiritual nature should be discriminated against, but I'm not going to defend them from being laughed at or insulted. They can wrap their heads up, dress like Uncle Fester, squint their eyes and snivel at the sky and whap their foreheads on a wall all they want, but to ask for respect while they act in such a way shouldn't be part of the bargain.

If Brigitte wants to condemn them for being carnivores, that should be her right to speak up and say so.

[Bob Dobbs]

3. Animal sacrifice is sick shizzle.

Akin to murder as far as I'm concerned.

But I've been a vegan for 33 years, and I know the carnivores will jump on this as the Muslims' rights, but they are wrongs in my good book.

Bardot has been a champion for animal rights for years and thus is a heroine to me.

[NorthernSpy]

7. That's just it -- other people's food choices are no concern of yours.

Opening the neck vessels is a time-tested method of slaughter. Demanding that the animals be hit on the head first -- because some humans fancy that it's more pleasant to get knocked in the head prior to getting bled out -- serves no legitimate public purpose.

And singling out a racial or religious group for such melodramatic accusations ("animal sacrifice... akin to murder as far as I'm concerned") is dangerous and a betrayal of the human solidarity that makes it possible for us all to live together without destroying one another.

[Bob Dobbs]

19. What about species solidarity?

All us animals are on this earth together. Killing sentient beings is evil, no matter what your willfully ignorant justification is.

And other people's food choices are absolutely my concern when their choices are creating massive pollution and health issues that I have to participate in cleaning up.

[Matariki]

31. Oh sure. You're correct and the rest of the world is evil and willfully ignorant.

Let me guess, you're a teenage 'rebel'.

[Bob Dobbs]

44. Nope, old and wise.

How wrong your stereotyping can be.

Vegan for 32 years.

[Matariki]

29. How sanctimonious.

"According to the Quran a large portion of the meat has to be given towards the poor and hungry people so they can all join in the feast which is held on Eid-ul-Adha. The remainder is cooked for the family celebration meal in which relatives and friends are invited to share. The regular charitable practices of the Muslim community are demonstrated during Eid ul-Adha by the concerted effort to see that no impoverished Muslim is left without sacrificial food during these days."

[Bob Dobbs]

45. Meat is murder.

Killing sentient beings to eat them is very low vibration activity.

I don't care what religion it is related to.

[frickaline]

34. you make a compelling point. nt

[LeftinOH]

6. She has verbalized what many French (Europeans in general) already feel-

that the growing population of people of Middle Eastern origin, and their immigration to Europe, is undermining European heritage. The fall-out from colonialism seems to be a never-ending saga.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

12. Absolutely. I hope this backfires, and that people rally for Ms Bardot. -nt

[NorthernSpy]

14. If they don't like the changes, they should have rallied against colonialism...

Too late.


:nopity:

[LucyParsons]

8. This will be the downfall of Europe

Thoughtcrime.

Inciting hate and inciting *violence* are two different things. I have the right to hate anyone, for any reason, and to say so. Indeed, there is much to hate in Islam. That is not the same as calling for violence. It just isn't.

Cow-towing to Muslims in this way, to me (and I lived in the UK for four years recently), is Western, Enlightment-based society betraying itself on the most fundamental level.

Too obvious to point out, as well, but "Muslims" are not a *racial* group. Muslims come in all ethnicities.

I give Europe 20 years, max.

[NorthernSpy]

17. This? After two catastrophic, suicidal world wars twenty years apart...

... THIS is what will cook Europe's goose? Some Muslims moving in, and Brigitte Bardot getting an official rebuke for her bitter rantings against them?


:eyes:

[LucyParsons]

36. They're denying people free speech - in favor of a culture that does NOT tolerate "tolerance"

Appeasing intolerant, fundamentalist ideologues, who are a sizable minority (and no longer a minority in some cities, such as some in the Netherlands), is a recipe for cultural annihilation.

[papapi]

11. Utterly disgraceful.

We truly don't know what it's like 'til it's gone. Thank goodness we have a Bill of Rights that protects us from this type of censorship. When speech is thwarted, we cease to be individuals and become slaves to the system. Never allowed expression, we whither and die.

Bardot should be commended for standing up to fascism.

[NorthernSpy]

13. Bardot isn't standing up to fascism; Bardot IS a fascist...

She's connected to the National Front.

We truly don't know what it's like 'til it's gone. Thank goodness we have a Bill of Rights that protects us from this type of censorship. When speech is thwarted, we cease to be individuals and become slaves to the system. Never allowed expression, we whither and die.

Our bill of rights allowed the KKK to intimidate millions of people with impunity. If you're going to wave the banner of free speech, you should first acknowledge the terrible price that minorities have paid in blood for your privilege of spouting off as you please.


Every genocide begins with slander. I happen to think that bad things should happen to people who attempt to foment racial hate.

[Dr. Strange]

16. That would make a lovely plaque.

I happen to think that bad things should happen to people who attempt to foment racial hate.

Maybe put it right above the entrance to Gitmo?

[Laughing Mirror]

18. Yep, she has a crazy racist rap sheet a mile long

From the ever trustworthy Wikipedia:

Her husband Bernard d'Ormal is a former adviser of the far right "Front National" party.<7><14> Bardot has been convicted five times for "inciting racial hatred".

In 1997 she was fined for her comments published in Le Figaro newspaper<15>.

In 1998 she was convicted for making a statement about the growing number of mosques in France<15>.

In a book she wrote in 1999, called "Le Carre de Pluton" (Pluto's Square), she criticizes the Muslim festival of Eid el-Kebir where sheep are ritually slaughtered. For the comments, a French court fined her 30,000 francs in June 2000. <16> <17>.

In a 2001 article named, Open Letter to My Lost France, she lamented: "...my country, France, my homeland, my land is again invaded by an overpopulation of foreigners, especially Muslims."<15><17>

In her 2003 book, A Scream in the Silence, she warned of the “Islamicization of France”, and said of Muslim immigration:

“Over the last twenty years, we have given in to a subterranean, dangerous, and uncontrolled infiltration, which not only resists adjusting to our laws and customs but which will, as the years pass, attempt to impose its own.”

<18> In the book, she goes on and talks about her homosexual friends, and said today's homosexuals, "jiggle their bottoms, put their little fingers in the air and with their little castrato voices moan about what those ghastly heteros put them through." She says French politicians are, "weather vanes who turn left or right as the fancy takes them... Not even French prostitutes are what they used to be." She says modern art has become "shit — literally as well as figuratively."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot

Also, as far as being a defender of animals. How explain this other than madness:

She once had a neighbor's donkey castrated while looking after it, on the ground of its "sexual harassment" of her own donkey and mare, for which she was taken to court by the donkey's owner in 1989<10><11>.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

33. You connect this with the KKK?

I don't agree with that at all. How do you feel about people in other parts of the world who hate, and speak out against, the Americanization of their countries? Do you consider that sentiment racist?

[Ilsa]

42. I appreciate her asking that the sacrificed animals be anesthetized

before slaughter, but I doubt the US doesn't have any moral standing on this. I am a vegetarian, but I do not try to impose my behavior or attitude on others.

I am concerned about the comments about the immigrant Muslims imposing their culture on European culture. She is probably speaking for alot of people there with that comment, but it really doesn't have much to do with the animals rights aspect of protesting the event.

I am also bothered by the French law on "inciting hatred". I am glad we still have free speech here, no matter how disgusting the speech might be.

[bullwinkle428]

43. It's clear she's not a big fan of gay people, either...

'In the book, she goes on and talks about her homosexual friends, and said today's homosexuals, "jiggle their bottoms, put their little fingers in the air and with their little castrato voices moan about what those ghastly heteros put them through."'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot#cite_note-Orland-17

Not shocking, considering that racism & homophobia seem to go together like peanut butter & jelly...

[Parche]

46. OH

OH MEOW
:rofl: :hi: :hug: