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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:26 PM
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David Gregory, You IGNORED leaders who said "Do NOT rush to war.'
You and your friends who parroted WH talking points against the few HONEST leaders who DID stand against any decision to go to war when weapon inspections were proving force was NOT NEEDED.

You all took potshots at the dissenters as you smeared them and other world leaders, just so you wouldn't drop one ounce that water you were carrying for BushInc.


Where was Gregory's honest or fair coverage of world leaders and THEIR dissent?

This article by Bush's speech writer is the EXACT NARRATIVE that the corpmedia repeated throughout that leadup to war. Including Gregory.

Publication: National Review
Publication Date: 24-FEB-03
Delivery: Immediate Online Access
Author: Frum, David
Full Article:
The 'Rush' to War, and The Day After Never

How often do we hear it said that America is "rushing toward war"? Presidential candidate John F. Kerry warned against the "rush to war" in a major speech at Georgetown University on January 23. The day before, the leaders of France and Germany delivered a similar warning. So did the editors of the New York Times.

Well, everything is relative. Compared to the movement of the tectonic plates or the cooling of the earth's core, the United States is indeed hurtling headlong to war. But by the normal standards of political life, the "rush to war" is a rush only in the sense that 5 o'clock on the Santa Monica Freeway is the "rush hour." The truth is that we have been inching toward war for the past ten years-and there are still quite a number of inches left to traverse.

In the summer of 1993, Iraqi agents attempted to murder former President Bush during a visit to Kuwait. Assassinations of top political leaders are pretty notoriously grounds for war-in fact, Saddam Hussein cited the mysterious deaths of a number of his top officials as his justification for invading Iran in 1980. If the United States had been eager for war with Iraq, the Bush plot was a perfect excuse. Instead, President Clinton fired a couple of dozen cruise missiles into downtown Baghdad.

A little over a year later, Saddam Hussein abruptly massed 80,000 troops on Iraq's border with Kuwait. The U.N. Security Council passed yet another resolution condemning Iraq (Number 949 this time). American and British units rushed into the emirate to deter a second invasion of Kuwait-and then rushed back out again.

In 1995, Saddam's son-in-law defected to Jordan, delivering proof positive that Saddam had successfully concealed a biological-weapons program from the U.N. inspectors then operating in Iraq-but there was again no rush.

In September 1996, Saddam Hussein invaded the Kurdish safe haven in northern Iraq. The United States had promised to protect the Kurds. An unnamed high official was quoted in news accounts at the time predicting that a military response was "very likely"; Bill Clinton himself told the White House press corps that "reckless acts have consequences." Now the rush seemed to be on for sure-only it turned out that the consequences Clinton meant were another flurry of cruise- missile strikes.

In 1998, the U.N. inspections regime in Iraq finally and definitively collapsed. The U.N. passed another passel of resolutions; at year's end, Clinton ordered up another flurry of air strikes to coincide with the impeachment vote. When Clinton's trial ended, so did the air strikes. No rush there.

Nor was there any rushing after George W. Bush took over in January 2001. The new president seemed more than content to wait for later- maybe a second term-before taking action against the dictator who had outlasted two hostile U.S. presidents. After 9/11, it's true that some people around President Bush began to question the Clinton policy of leaving Saddam in power more or less indefinitely. And in January 2002, President Bush's "axis of evil" speech warned that more decisive action against Iraq would come soon.

There was a time when a year was considered a long time in warfare. But although in every other aspect of life things seem to be speeding up, apparently when it comes to fighting, time is slowing down, and what was once considered merely a brisk speed now feels like a dizzying whirl.

Eighteen months after Pearl Harbor, and the United States was already in Sicily; 18 months since 9/11, and every one of the world's terror regimes except Afghanistan is exactly where it was a year and a half ago. Well, not exactly where it was: Libya has been promoted from mere membership of the U.N. Human Rights Commission to actual chairmanship of it. Otherwise, no signs of motion.

If ever any administration has moved with deliberate speed, it is this one. But no matter how slowly it moves, it is never slow enough. No matter how often it makes its case, it has never made the case enough. And no matter how much evidence of Saddam's dangerousness it adduces, the evidence is never convincing enough. When, do you suppose, would John Kerry and President Chirac and the editors of the New York Times think it a good time to overthrow Saddam? After another three months? Or six? Isn't it really the day after never?

It is not the speed of war that disturbs them. It is the fact of war. But this time, the fact of war is inescapable. War was made on the United States, and it has no choice but to reply. But there is good news: If the preparations for the Iraq round of the war on terror have gone very, very slowly, the Iraq fight itself is probably going to go very, very fast. The shooting should be over within just a very few days from when it starts. The sooner the fighting begins in Iraq, the nearer we are to its imminent end. Which means, in other words, that this "rush to war" should really be seen as the ultimate "rush to peace."


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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:29 PM
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1. He ignored a mountain of conviction and opinion! K&R n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:37 PM
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2. Also absent were the best known Dem leaders who sided with Bush against Kerry, France and Germ
Edited on Thu May-29-08 01:38 PM by blm
Bill Clinton led that entire wing of the party and I believe he deliberately lied to DC Dems about evidence he saw as President before the IWR vote in order to further Bush's agenda for war.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:37 PM
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3. David Gregory was busy dancing with MC Rove.
I cannot believe the reporters EVER socialize with politicians. What happens to their objectivity??? Politicians should avoid reporters like the plague.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:41 PM
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4. Reading Frum's attack on Kerry, France and Germany it reads EXACTLY like the corpmedia narrative of
the lead up for war. They based their entire storyline exactly as outlined by the WH in this article.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:48 PM
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6. That was a stomach-turning spectacle that clearly showed
the line between the "fifth estate" and the political establishment had been blurred to an unacceptable level, perhaps permanently.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:44 PM
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5. Have you been to Counter Punch today?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:46 PM
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7. no....they are only occasionally accurate in their analysis of open govt. Dems, imo.
Of course, it depends on the writer. Some are full on fascist enablers as they target honest Dems instead of the lies of BushInc.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:27 PM
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8. BLM, I never saw this before
It is interesting that a half month before the war, David Frum reacted so strongly to Kerry's call not to rush to war and already linking him to Chirac. The NYT editorials against the war were good - while the reporting side was pushing for war - making it weird to read. It's too bad that more of the MSM did not take up Kerry's call.

That last paragraph was just like Bush in the debates - "they attacked us" or as in this "War was made on the United States, and it has no choice but to reply." Seeing this and remembering the many times similar things were said, I bet Bush was actually surprised when Senator Kerry called it into question.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:15 PM
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9. I notice that none of the bestknown Dems at the time would stand with Kerry, Chirac or
any other leader of note calling for Bush to not to go to war without the cause to do so, as weapon inspections ultimately proved.
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