The Evidence Is Now Overwhelming-Bush KNEW & APPROVED Of War Crimes

[kpete]

The evidence is now overwhelming that
Bush knew of – and approved of –
those violations of the rules of war and basic human decency,
that the “war crimes” catalogued by the FBI agents could be traced to him.

Bush's 'War Crimes' & Misdemeanors

By Robert Parry
May 22, 2008

..............

Lack of Action

But the reason for a lack of action on the FBI complaints is now more obvious.

The FBI’s evidence of “war crimes” went up the chain of command, all the way to the White House, the NSC and the Principals Committee – precisely where the abusive policies had been developed in the first place.

Before senior FBI officials grasped this high-level support for the mistreatment of detainees, some FBI agents were instructed to compile the evidence for a “war crimes” file at Guantanamo.

“At some point in 2003, however,” the Inspector General’s report said, the FBI agents at Guantanamo “received instructions not to maintain a separate ‘war crimes’ file, … that investigating detainee allegations of abuse was not the FBI's mission.”

more at:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/052208.html

[NightWatcher]

1. to be filed under "duh" too bad no one will do anything about it

[SammyWinstonJack]

3. Yeah, duh was my first response but who cares? Certainly not Rep Pelosi.

x(

[progressoid]

30. That file is over flowing.

[rhett o rick]

33. I ditto that comment. nm

[SammyWinstonJack]

2. K&R!

[Selatius]

4. I have a hunch Bush, Cheney, etc. will escape without punishment like Kissinger with Pinochet.

They got away, and Kissinger is still around.

[chknltl]

6. You are not one I wish to disagree with... I hope you are wrong though

Barrack Obama has said that he will put his AG on the trail of potential crimes committed by the bfee. I do NOT know to what extent he actually can or will carry out that promise, we fans do have HOPE though. IMO, investigation and where appropriate accountability regarding the bush administration should be quite high on the Obama agenda. It would be cathartic for our nation and it could be a stepping stone used to create legislation preventing another hostile takeover of our democracy.

That said, you DO have history on the side of your suspicions and I would further add to your examples the Ford and Clinton pardons. I can only HOPE that you are wrong.

[davekriss]

20. "put his AG on the trail of ... crimes committed by the bfee"

Do you have a cite for that? That would cement my support of future President Barrack Obama! :)

[chknltl]

21. Here:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Barack_on_torture.html

Will Bunch asked Senator Obama if an... "Obama administration would seek to prosecute officials of a former Bush administration on the revelations that they greenlighted torture, or for other potential crimes that took place in the White House."

Senator Obama's response:

"What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that's already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can't prejudge that because we don't have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve.

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment -- I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General -- having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now -- are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it's important-- one of the things we've got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I've said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law -- and I think that's roughly how I would look at it."

[davekriss]

26. Bee-YOO-ti-ful!!!

Obama has my full support!

[chknltl]

27. Will he do as he says? We can only HOPE.

I don't see too many others saying this though. Surely not Clinton or mCcain. I am happy to have brought Senator Obama's words to your attention davekriss. I personally can think of no greater thing for President Obama to place his support behind than accountability. I know that this is a minority viewpoint when one considers all of the damage that needs urgent tending to.

[barbtries]

36. interesting comments

i could have sworn that the bush administration went way over the line years ago. obama's blowing smoke just like almost the entire democratic congress. sigh.

[msongs]

5. gee maybe Obama will hold hearings...and issue toothless subpoenas like conyers does nt

[Octafish]

7. To The Hague!

From Bush to the lowliest turd on the BFEE cronies food chain, investigate, indict, try, convict, imprison or whatever -- even if that means community service with Project P.U.L.L.

[malaise]

15. Ditto n/t

[AuntPatsy]

8. When was it ever in doubt?

[Purveyor]

9. My hope is that our current congress is sandbagging on any serious hearings until

we secure the WH.

Hey...I can 'hope', can't I? :/

[frogcycle]

29. it is a thin hope, but yet

we could not try the Nazis and Japanese for their war crimes until the war was over. Actually not a bad analogy. It seems our institutions are as powerless to enforce anything as they would have been while WWII was still going on.


Problem is, even a win in the Nov POTUS election won't be a decisive victory against all teh bad guys. Many will remain in power (by means of lots of money).

[Breeze54]

10. How is THIS news?!?

:wtf:

I've been saying that and posting it for at least 5 years!!!

:wtf:

:banghead:

[Blarch]

11. This falls on Pelosi.

She is a traitor ...she has betrayed this nation ..and the people.

I think we should charge Nancy with these crimes ..she is in on the cover-up, she is covering for a war criminal.

Lets repeat ...PELOSI IS COVERING UP WAR CRIMES ...she is bordering on treason.

[Senator]

12. K&R&Impeach For Torture Or Lose In November

[OwnedByFerrets]

13. Our congress's reaction?? Whats your point?

:mad:

[Zywiec]

14. Wow, a justified use of both BOLD and CAPS!!!!! n/t

[bluesmail]

16. Recommend. The House Judiciary Commitee IS laying

the groundwork for a no wiggle room ironclad case. IMO They need TIME to get it perfect, because there's no second chances.

[Kaleko]

25. Is that a fact?

Here's hoping you are right.

Anyone have details?

[hootinholler]

17. * FUCKING BRAGGED ABOUT IT!

Right after the ABC news report about the cabinet dreaming this shit up.

:grr:

-Hoot

[Supersedeas]

41. Repig humor

[spanone]

18. I M P E A C H

[HCE SuiGeneris]

19. If we are to regain any credibility worldwide, we have to hold these criminals accountable.

[bdamomma]

31. our image around the world just sucks.

there are so many scenarios going through my head, we all know how cowardly these thugs are, do you really think they would willingly be arrested or would they do what hitler did to avoid their crimes.

[defendandprotect]

22. IMPEACH . . . IMPRISON . ..

[Wizard777]

23. Impeach and imprision!

[lonestarnot]

24. Give me the keys and I will chew them!

:grr:

[Echo In Light]

28. Impeach/Imprison

[kentuck]

32. Why do they think people hate this bastard?

Many people knew this all along. It's sickening.

[rhett o rick]

34. Are you asking for a list? nm

[Disturbed]

35. What is a war crime?

What is a war crime?
By Tarik Kafala
BBC News Online


Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention defines war crimes as: "Willful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including... willfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement of a protected person, compelling a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile power, or willfully depriving a protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial, ...taking of hostages and extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly."


This, international lawyers say, is the basic definition of war crimes.

The statutes of The Hague tribunal say the court has the right to try suspects alleged to have violated the laws or customs of war in the former Yugoslavia since 1992. Examples of such violations are given in article 3:

* Wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity
* Attack, or bombardment, by whatever means, of undefended towns, villages, dwellings, or buildings
* Seizure of, destruction or willful damage done to institutions dedicated to religion, charity and education, the arts and sciences, historic monuments and works of art and science
* Plunder of public or private property.

The tribunal defines crime against humanity as crimes committed in armed conflict but directed against a civilian population. Again a list of examples is given in article 5:

* Murder
* Extermination
* Enslavement
* Deportation
* Imprisonment
* Torture
* Rape
* Persecutions on political, racial and religious grounds.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1420133.stm

[barbtries]

37. the bush admin

should be cooked. i really hope to see justice in my lifetime, visited upon these FUCKS.

[G_j]

38. the truth unfolds, great post, kick & R

[Supersedeas]

39. Condi seems to have admitted as much -- ignoring the finer legal points and all

[G_j]

40. Kick

[mdmc]

42. paging the loyal opposition

:shrug:

[Bluenorthwest]

43. Thank God....

Thank God our candidates keep talking about this so strongly and boldly! I am so happy that these issues have been central to our discussions about who should be our nominee! I am thrilled with the agressive words from our candidates about justice and the Constitution! Oh...wait...dreaming again. Go about your business.

[frickaline]

44. Makes you wonder what's in the Cheney "Man-Sized Safe" that's worse than what we CAN see (nt)

[L. Coyote]

45. The #1 Bad Apple is George Bush. And Robert Parry is out front again, breaking the news

we really need to know.

In typical 'Up is Down' fashion the Bad Apple-in-Chief was propagandizing about human rights abuse and torture in Cuba.

They still believe that "misinformation dominance" can save their sorry futures. Too little, too late. Impeach NOW!

[havocmom]

46. Back up to the top

:kick: