Dear Media: The WH-TOLD YOU-that Bush's "Hitler Speech" Was About Obama-So STOP Pretending It Wasn't

[kpete]

Sunday, May 18, 2008
Dear Media, the White House TOLD YOU that Bush's Knesset speech was about Obama,
so stop pretending like it wasn't

by John Aravosis (DC) · 5/18/2008 11:00:00 AM ET ·


Stephanopoulos this morning repeated a lie that the White House has been putting out to the media - a lie the media knows to be a lie. Steph said that the White House denies that Bush was talking about Obama when he talked about Hitler appeasers before the Knesset. I've heard other journalists say the same thing. But the White House confirmed to multiple media sources that Obama is exactly who they meant.

Here's John Yang at NBC (video link):

Mr. Bush didn't name any names. Privately, white house officials said the shoe fits the democratic front-runner.
http://www.criticalmention.com/components/url_gen/play_flash.php?autoplay=1&clip_info=542692937%7C0%7C59%5E542693460%7C0%7C59%5E542693970%7C0%7C59%5E542694481%7C0%7C59%5E542695019%7C0%7C59%5E542695576%7C0%7C59%5E

And here's Ed Henry on CNN (video link):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjIfeNEk1gU

While the president didn't name names, administration officials are privately acknowledging that this was a shot at Barack Obama and other Democrats.

Why didn't Stephanopoulos know that? Why did he repeat the White House CYA line that this wasn't about Obama when the White House has already admitted it was? It's not journalism when you simply repeat their lies.

[leftofcool]

1. You are expecting the MSM to deal in truths?

[billdemo]

2. Here's why you're wrong

Here's why you're wrong:

Surely you're aware that there is a major split between foreign policy experts in the democratic party. One faction, backing Clinton, favors strong policy on Iran and is very much against Iran going nuclear. The other faction, backing Obama, is in favor of negotiating with Iran, appeasing Iran and is less worried about Iran developing nuclear weapons.

Bush's message was intended for those foreign policy experts in the democratic party who were advocating "appeasement" as he called it. He was not singling out Barack Obama, but instead, the foreign policy experts who back Obama (namely Zbigniew Brezezinski, Obama's top foreign policy advisor.)

So you need to find out more about the party we both belong to. Decide whether you support strong tactics on Iran or softer tactics, and choose that candidate.

[TwilightGardener]

3. Obama is in favor of "appeasing" Iran? You won't last long here, T R O L L.

[RedCappedBandit]

4. You notice how trolls always make sure to point out..

that "we" are all "democrats" ?
Nearly every time I see a troll post, there's an emphasis on "our party" or some such drivel.

[TwilightGardener]

5. Yeah--"the party we both belong to". Jesus, how obvious.

[billdemo]

11. You miss the point. There are 2 very different foreign policy factions within the same party

[TwilightGardener]

24. No, there isn't. The Dem party as a whole stands for opening diplomatic channels

with Iran, and so does Hillary, even with all of her bluster. You really need to educate yourself.

[billdemo]

25. If thats what u think then u need to educate yourself.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

7. This is the second post of its kind. I refuted it previously and got no response.

Please alert.

[billdemo]

18. I'll reply to u on the other thread. Didn't expect such angry responses to this.

[fudge stripe cookays]

30. Who are you, Prince?

You make yourself look even more ridiculous by doing it. It's a word..."y-o-u." Easy enough to type. We don't speak textspeak here, troll.

[billdemo]

9. FYI - I'm a Hillary supporter. I disagree with Obama's foreign policy advisors on the Iran Issue

[TwilightGardener]

14. No--Hillary's campaign is about over. I highly doubt all sorts of "new" supporters

are enthusiastically signing up on Dem websites to promote her now, as if the race is just beginning. The easiest way to bash our presumptive nominee is to sign up and say you're a Hillary supporter, and then you get a free pass to spread GOP bullshit attacks against him. Fuck off, troll.

[billdemo]

21. I haven't promoted Hillary here. Is this an Obama-Only board now???

[TwilightGardener]

23. That's your trouble--you aren't here to promote Hillary, you're attacking

our nominee with RW shit.

[billdemo]

26. I didnt attack Obama. I said there's 2 factions in the DEM party on Iran foreign policy

[HCE SuiGeneris]

16. Here is a link for you...

http://www.hillaryis44.org/

Post to your heart's content. I am sure they will welcome your BS.

[malaise]

19. Hillary condemned Bush n/t

[malaise]

17. Ubiquitous to boot

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3305082&mesg_id=3305336

[wurzel]

6. "Appeasement as he called it"? Words have meanings!!

If a mother sits down with her kid and talks about something he did wrong, that is not "appeasement". If she offers him a lollipop if the kid doesn't do it again, that is "appeasement". Get it?

[billdemo]

12. The idea is negotiating and getting nothing in return

[TwilightGardener]

20. Obama didn't say anything about "negotiating" with Iran. He said direct talks.

"Talks" are just that--establishing common ground on which to build some sort of diplomatic relationship. Even some Republicans agree that we need to engage Iran--that doesn't mean we GIVE them anything. You're just here to spout RW bullshit.

[billdemo]

27. There's a difference between public and back channel. Common ground would be - dont destroy israel

[jimshoes]

8. You guys ever tire of

cleaning up after your leader after he has stepped in it again?

[billdemo]

15. I'm as Anti-Bush as you are. I have been for 8 years, dude.

[Richard Steele]

29. And yet you've signed up here just to carry his water.

Enjoy your stay.

[malaise]

10. Bush isn't allowed to invent new meanings to words

Appeasement does not mean negotiations or diplomacy. This is more fucking stupid Bush-speak -deliberate distortion with a particular agenda.
It's comical coming from the grand son of a Nazi appeaser and a fucking fascist government to boot.

[ljm2002]

22. A couple of definitions should help:

appeasement: to yield or concede to the belligerent demands of (a nation, group, person, etc.) in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles.

diplomacy: the conduct by government officials of negotiations and other relations between nations.

See the difference?

Oh and by the way. Mr. Gates, our Secretary of Defense, like Obama, thinks we need to talk to Iran:

From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/14/ST2008051404020.html :

The United States should construct a combination of incentives and pressure to engage Iran, and may have missed earlier opportunities to begin a useful dialogue with Tehran, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said yesterday.

"We need to figure out a way to develop some leverage . . . and then sit down and talk with them," Gates said. "If there is going to be a discussion, then they need something, too. We can't go to a discussion and be completely the demander, with them not feeling that they need anything from us."

So this must mean there is a major split on foreign relations issues in the Republican Party.

[leftofthedial]

13. they all work for the same 1200 families.

EVERYTHING we think we know about this country is a sham. It's a potemkin village of a country and the media are the chief scene painters.

[malaise]

28. They should call Ed Gillespie

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24673610#24673610