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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:25 PM Original message |
List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. No. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. But who decides? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. When in doubt, side with the ones who are using good scientific method |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Ooh! I got this one! |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. But then, proof today does not mean a lot |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Now, you're just talking philosophy, not science. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I meant as far as Einstein was Concerned |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. What exactly did Newton say that was wrong? n/t |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Oh I dunno |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Once again, philosophy. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. I think we agree really |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 03:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I don't know if we agree. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. "Questioning what we find today is not a bad thing." |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. F = m*a |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Newton's theory is correct within its region of applicability. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 06:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Newton was not wrong. |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. There was no consensus on global cooling in the 1970's |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. There are the laws of science |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Was Newton written in stone? |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
51. Newtonian physics works just fine |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
57. nay sayers HAVE grants from OIL companies |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. since when does religion use hypothesis testing, logic, or peer review? nt |
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guyanakoolaid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. There are no two ways of looking at facts. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. If there is nothing to be believed |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
58. because even science cannot always eliminated fucking stupid whores |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. I had a similar discussion with my mom and dad a few months ago |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. i don't know...but what did you decide to do about the job and possible |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. That is still up in the air, as I am comflicted |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. ok, i won't bring it up again--just keep us posted on the outcome. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. science doesn't need faith |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Which only serves to prove my point |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
31. To the contrary, science requires faith -- but faith of a very different quality than religion |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. Are you comfortable with uncertainty? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. And that is what, I guess, I am trying to say really: |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. to help you with the ambiguity try "climate change" instead of global warming |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. So the only climate change has been because of us, today? |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. huh? I was just suggesting you use the term climate change |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Where real-world action is called for, we need to be pragmatic. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
25. There must be, what, 40 names on there? Is that really impressive? Oh, and I picked one randomly: |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I picked another of the scientists listed at random: Timothy Ball - ONE MORE DOWN |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Which serves only to prove my point |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. If the scientists that disagree with te consensus |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Okay. It has become clear- and please, pardon me, this is NOT intended as a slam- |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Oh, an 3 names on the list think global warming is WORSE than the consensus |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
33. 40 is nothing. Project steve has 877. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. But.... why can't the scientists just be like the televangelists? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
36. You're right. Global Warming needs more research. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
39. Several things you should consider. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
40. Core question: should progressives shut down those with opposing science views? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 03:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. What are those... |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. An even more core question: what's the cost of being right or wrong? |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. ... |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
41. It's been said above, but it bears repeating |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
42. Any bona fide scientist would be grinding their teeth at this thread... |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
47. KEY ISSUE: What are the respective costs of being wrong? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
50. Fuck we're a stupid fucking country. Letting idiots have a say in science is the WORST choice.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
53. Yeah, I've seen these kinds of lists before. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of Evolution |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. apples and oranges; NOT the same thing |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
60. There is a huge difference between scientific consensus and media reporting |
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