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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:24 PM
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Larisa Alexandrovna: Massive Propaganda Laundry at the Wall Street Journal
Mods, I have permisision to reproduce in entirety.

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/04/massive-propaga.html

Massive Propaganda Laundry at the Wall Street Journal...

This may or may not be related to why the Wall Street Journal's top editor, Marcus Brauchli, quit yesterday, but it sure looks to be connected. The "this" that I am referring to is the propaganda piece published in the WSJ - now owned by propaganda magnate, R. Murdoch - today on what went down in Syria last year:

"North Korea was helping Syria build a plutonium-producing nuclear reactor before Israel bombed the site last September, the Bush administration is set to tell Congress.

The new information could increase the position of hard-liners in Congress and the administration who have argued against a deal being negotiated to dismantle North Korea's nuclear-weapons program. The hard-liners say Pyongyang hasn't provided enough assurances it will dismantle its atomic arsenal in return for economic and diplomatic incentives.

Neither Israel nor the U.S. has made public information about the strike in Syria, though speculation has been widespread that the targeted site was a nascent nuclear reactor. Some Republicans have charged that the U.S. is playing down the matter to avoid hurting talks with North Korea.

<snip>

This week, the Central Intelligence Agency is expected to begin briefing members of the Senate and House intelligence committees on the Israeli strike, according to congressional and administration officials. The briefings will be based in part on intelligence provided by the Israeli government, they said.

The CIA is expected to say it believes North Korea was helping Syria develop a plutonium-producing nuclear reactor similar to the Yongbyon facility North Korea built north of Pyongyang, said an official familiar with the deliberations. It also is likely to say North Korean workers were active at the Syrian site at the time of the Israeli attack.

It isn't clear what specific evidence the U.S. officials will present to support their allegations. They are likely to acknowledge uncertainty about whether the alleged Syrian reactor was designed solely to produce nuclear power for peaceful purposes or also to make fissile material for a nuclear weapon, according to the U.S. official.

Syrian officials have denied that they have sought to develop a nuclear capability of any kind and say the Bush administration is hyping the issue as a means to pursue an aggressive policy against both Iran and Syria.

"We have seen in the past that this administration doesn't require evidence, but will use false pretexts" to pursue its agenda, said Ahmed Salkini, a spokesman at the Syrian Embassy in Washington. "We hope the administration doesn't take a miscalculated step that could cause even more chaos in our region."'

The claims regarding a Syrian nuclear facility are patently false. How do I know? Because I was on the story for months. It is not true that North Korea is helping Syria build a nuclear reactor. What is true, however, is that Syria has a chemical weapons program - that for some reason no one seems much interested in. But I suppose for the Cheney mechanism to move forward, introducing a whole new type of WMD to the mix might confuse the propaganda.

Furthermore, anyone from the CIA who testifies to Congress that Israel bombed a nuclear facility in Syria last year will be all-out lying. Let's go back to my first article on the bombing of Syria by the Israeli military:

"Israel did not strike a nuclear weapons facility in Syria on Sept. 6, instead striking a cache of North Korean missiles, current and former intelligence officials say.

American intelligence sources familiar with key events leading up to the Israeli air raid tell RAW STORY that what the Syrians actually had were North Korean No-Dong missiles, possibly located at a site in either the city of Musalmiya in the northern part of Syria or further south around the city of Hama.

While reports have alleged the US provided intelligence to Israel or that Israel shared their intelligence with the US, sources interviewed for this article believe that neither is accurate.

By most accounts of intelligence officials, both former and current, Israel and the US both were well aware of the activities of North Korea and Syria and their attempts to chemically weaponize the No-Dong missile (above right). It therefore remains unclear why an intricate story involving evidence of a Syrian nuclear weapons program and/or enriched uranium was put out to press organizations.

The North Korean missiles -- described as "legacy" by one source and "older generation" by another -- were not nuclear arms."

You want on the record sourcing kids? Here you go, from my same article:

"Vincent Cannistraro, Director of Intelligence Programs for the National Security Council under President Ronald Reagan and Chief of Operations at the Central Intelligence Agency's Counterterrorism Center under President George H. W. Bush, said Sunday that what the Israelis hit was "absolutely not a nuclear weapons facility."

"Syria has a small nuclear research facility and has had it for several years," Cannistraro said. "It is not capable of enriching uranium to weapons capability levels. Some Israelis speculated that the Syrians had succeeded in doing just that, but according to the US intelligence experts that is simply not true."'

Let's go to another article I did on this:

"Allegations that a Syrian envoy admitted during a United Nations meeting Oct. 17 that an Israeli air strike hit a nuclear facility in September are inaccurate and have raised the ire of some in the US intelligence community, who see the Vice President’s hand as allegedly being behind the disinformation.

A United Nations press release discussing the General Assembly’s Disarmament Committee meeting mistranslated comments ascribed to an unnamed Syrian diplomat as saying that Israel had on various occasions “taken action against nuclear facilities, including the 6 July attack in Syria.”

The UN has since gone through the tape recordings of the meeting and found that there was no mention of the word “nuclear” at all. According to the UN, the error was one of translation, involving several interpreters translating the same meeting.

Recent news articles, however, continue to make allegations and suggest that a nuclear weapons facility was hit -- something that the Syrian government has denied, the Israeli government has not officially confirmed and US intelligence does not show.

<snip>

According to current and former intelligence sources, the US intelligence community has seen no evidence of a nuclear facility being hit.

US intelligence “found no radiation signatures after the bombing, so there was no uranium or plutonium present,” said one official, wishing to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the subject.

“We don't have any independent intelligence that it was a nuclear facility -- only the assertions by the Israelis and some ambiguous satellite photography from them that shows a building, which the Syrians admitted was a military facility.”

Their statements come as officials claim Syria has begun to 'disassemble' the site. An article today quotes former Administration hawk and onetime Bush United Nations Ambassador John Bolton, who links Syria's alleged action with Iran.

Israel has not spoken publicly about the air raid, other than to confirm that it happened. The confirmation came nearly a month after the Sept. 6 bombing, and provided only that “Israeli officials said the strike took place deep inside Syria.”

Want a nuclear arms expert? You got one, from my same article:

'Radiation signatures' are just the particular type of radiation that some activity would give off," Dr. Ivan Oelrich, a nuclear weapons expert at the Strategic Security Project at the Federation of American Scientists, told RAW STORY. "For example, a nuclear bomb would produce a lot of radioactivity and a nuclear reactor explosion would produce a lot of radioactivity but if you measure it carefully so you can tell, not just that it is radioactive, but exactly what particular isotopes are contributing, then it is easy to tell the difference.

"If a reactor explodes or is blown up then I can, with careful measurements of the particular types of radiation, tell what the fuel was for the reactor and how long the reactor had been running when it was hit," Oelrich added. "It gets complicated because you have to take into account how different species are transported in the air, how fast they decay, etc. but it can be done."

I don't have to remind everyone how the Bush administration had laundered pre-war intelligence on Iraq - or as we now know, pre-war propaganda on Iraq - through the media. So who is leaking this to the journal ahead of the testimony and why?

In addition to my concerns about the media-laundry of government propaganda, is the basic question of how an agency (CIA) currently running black propaganda ops against a country (Syria) can provide an honest analysis on the same country?

Why not have the State Department's INR do the Congressional briefing instead? How about military intelligence? Neither of these are actively engaged in running covert propaganda ops against the country they are asked to give their informed analysis of (although I may be mistaken on the DOD's activities since no Presidential Finding is needed to authorize DOD covert ops).

Finally, of the three countries appearing to be involved or target of the Israel-bombed-a-nuclear-facility-propaganda, that is to say, Israel, US, and Syria, only one country was cooperating with the IAEA in the organization's attempts to investigate. Now which country would that be? Again, from yet another article I wrote on this situation:

"The International Atomic Energy Agency - the United Nations nuclear watchdog - has not been able to conduct an investigation into the events surrounding the Sept. 6 Israeli bombing of a Syrian military installation because neither the Bush administration nor Israel are cooperating.

A diplomatic source close to the Vienna based IAEA told Raw Story that both the United States and Israel have been approached by the organization requesting supporting evidence of a nuclear reactor which media sources have cited, based on anonymous sources in both governments, as the reason for the Israeli strike.

The source also explained that the satellite footage, which the IAEA obtained through commercial channels for lack of any "credible evidence," does not show a nuclear reactor in the early construction phase. Another source, close to the IAEA, who wished to remain anonymous due to the sensitive nature of the topic, told RAW STORY last week that based on satellite imagery, evidence that "it was nuclear related is shaky" and pointed out that even basic security for such a facility - such as "security fences" - is missing.

Some IAEA experts have privately opined that the facility - located between the cities of Hama and Dayr az-Zawr in the Northeastern part of Syria - may have been "no more than a workshop for the pumice mining industry along the banks of the Euphrates." Both individuals independently confirmed that the IAEA cannot conduct a formal investigation without the cooperation of either Israel or the United States, although both confirmed that the Syrian government is cooperating. An IAEA spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

But you need not rely on my reporting if you do not wish to. There is another reporter who closely worked this story. I give you Sy Hersh's excellent article on this situation. He can tell you in his own words:

VIDEO AT LINK

And before Hersh published his report, I was up against the Murdoch-owned machine and their obedient media followers in the press all alone - as I appear to be again now. Where is the rest of the media? Why is this laundering being allowed to happen?

So is it going to be me and Hersh against WSJ and the Cheney machine? If so, I suggest you choose sides quickly because I am not about to sit around quietly while this administration fabricates another reason for yet another war. If this administration wants to talk about chemical weapons, then that would be honest. But for some reason, they just really want to play the "nukelar" propaganda over and over and over.

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:31 PM
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1. K&R. Thank you, Hissyspit. I'm mailing this out to friends. nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:21 PM
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12. Please Buzz the Huffington Post version ("Heads Up... Incoming Propaganda on Nukes") here:
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 10:24 PM by Hissyspit
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:50 AM
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15. Larisa's follow-up post: "How Long Before the Cheneyites Start Saying: Iraq's WMD Went to Syria"
http://www.atlargely.com/2008/04/how-long-before.html

How long before the Cheneyites start saying: "Iraq's WMD went to Syria"

Is anyone seeing what appears to be the first major step in revisionism about the Iraq war with regard to this administration's spreading of propaganda about Syria's alleged WMD? See my post here for background on the WSJ propaganda.

Remember, Judith "boom boom" Miller reported that before the Iraq war, Hussein had moved all of his WMD to Syria... her source? Take a guess. In other words, by claiming that Syria had a nuke reactor, the administration will now spin that the "yellowcake uranium" was moved before we invaded. This will allow the administration to alter history right before they leave office.

Now, those talking points did not stick when Miller first attempted to plant them. But they appear to be insinuating themselves back into public discourse via the same tactics: laundering propaganda via a compliant press.

So, shall we take bets on how many right wing blogs and "opinion" writers will deliver the question by tomorrow morning, just in time for the Congressional horse and pony show? Now no peaking. Let's make some predictions.

I say 2 blogs from the right, and one opinion piece by tomorrow AM will posit the question: "did Iraq's WMD go to Syria?" and then the next logical lie would be "the Bush administration appears to be right on the WMD in Iraq."

Betting is now open (the prize is ... well, nothing, but it will be fun, no?).
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:57 PM
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24. And New Larisa Post at Huffington Post. She's on a roll:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:33 PM
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2. Bookmarked. . . .n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:39 PM
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3. K&R... bookmarked...
I knew this story sounded fishy.

Awesome OP!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:40 PM
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4. Not much time left
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:57 PM
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9. Yeah SLaD, not much time left according to my gut feelings
Of course, La La knows that we chose her side many moons ago

(for as much as most of us are in any position to help, other than vibes)
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:41 PM
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5. one thing that 9/11 taught me
is that the contemporaneous comments that are made at the time of an event are most likely closer to the truth than the sanitized and bastardized version that is made available many months later.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:11 PM
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6. Excellent work. Thank you for doing what the media seems to
fail at everyday. When this first happened I was calling BS. If, like the nuke expert said, there was a program there it would have caused quite a mess by bombing it and the results would have been obvious by anybody unfortunate to live next to it.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:13 PM
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7. Was this around the same time of the missing nukes?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:24 PM
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8. They got video
lawmakers to get video evidence on Syrian facility



WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence officials will show members of Congress a videotape laying out the evidence that Syria was building a nuclear reactor with North Korean assistance before it was bombed by Israeli planes in September 2007, a U.S. official said Wednesday.

Intelligence officials who have seen the evidence consider it "extremely compelling," the U.S. official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity of the sensitive nature of the information.

The Syrian reactor was similar in design to a North Korean reactor that has in the past produced small amounts of plutonium. It was not yet complete but was far enough along to demonstrate a resemblance to the North Korean reactor at Yonbyon.

The U.S. official said no uranium_ the fuel for a reactor_ was evident on site.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080424/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/nkorea_syria ;_
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:12 PM
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10. that the Congress will see in closed session...
without the benefit of outside eyes looking to see the cooked (see this vile of anthrax = war with Iraq) footage? And since this happened last fall, why did it take so long to locate the footage to begin with?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:14 PM
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11. thanks hissy
and you folks, i would really appreciate a favor ... can you go and post comments so that this post does not fall off HuffPo's pages without seeing the light of day?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/heads-up-incoming-propaga_b_98338.html
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:56 AM
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13. Thank YOU Larisa, who Thom Hartmann called THE best investigative reporter in the world today!
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 01:59 AM by calipendence
... when he talked to you on his show! That was an awesome segment that I just heard on Sirius's delayed replay a moment ago. Wish that Thom still had his free daily podcasts like he used to. Hope he gets you on more often!

I just hope that Murdoch keeps his mitts off of Yahoo. IF the rumor of News Corp teaming up with Microsoft to buy Yahoo comes to pass, I think I'll have to look you guys up for a job then! That would be my nightmare of nightmares!
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:56 PM
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22. Here's the headline on my Yahoo home page:
"U.S. Presents Intelligence on North Korea-Syria Link" with satellite photos showing "a suspected nuclear facility in Syria". Yikes - here we go again.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:24 PM
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27. Hartmann's accolades for LaLa- much deserved
As all of us here know so well
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:03 AM
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14. kr
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:19 AM
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16. LALALALALALALA
sorry- can't hear the logic and lies over the wardrums.........

Christ can these two be impeached yet???

At least making them focus on being impeached will hopefully keep them to busy from trying to start another war!!!

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:09 AM
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17. I'm Feeling Really Stupid Right Now
After reading TWO credible posts about outright lies in the MSM, I am beginning to doubt my sanity and ability to function in this Brave New World.

If we as news readers have to fact-check every F'ing thing in the news, then why have news at all? Think of the money and bandwidth that could be saved, not to mention time.

Shut down the MSM.Just shut it down entirely.And all the spy bureaus. Let Congress get their facts from eye-witness testimony, period.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:18 AM
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18. I think we should just nationalize Newscorp and get it over with.
Murdoch has become a threat to our national security.
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dutch-Eddie Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:25 AM
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19. And then nationalize healthcare...and banks... and oil companies...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:48 AM
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20. The k and the r
rah rah, La La
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:17 PM
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21. K&R....

I agree that Murdoch is a threat to national security. He should be forced into retirement.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:21 PM
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23. K&R. (nt)
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:23 PM
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25. Larisa is a national treasure. K&R n/t
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:51 PM
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35. not too hard on the eyes, either!
ttt
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:40 PM
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26. Kick and kick again!
Hiassyspit and lala-rawraw, my Dynamic Duo :)

ABC ran a piece just now, and I had to leave the room, to save the TV for hockey.

These damnable liars will kill us all.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:40 PM
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28. Something is up... AP radio News has been pushing this story all day
Which was debunked months ago. The White House have been pushing this story today too on other channels.

When this happens, always look around at stories that are getting pushed to the back page.

The VA suicide story
The 7000 page CIA torture story
or Something else?





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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:02 PM
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29. Mueller says torture was illegal
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:09 PM
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30. Yeah, that's another one but
I don't think thats the story they trying to bury with this massive
propaganda push. You might be right though, just so much to wallow through
with this administration since everything they do is a crime or a scandal.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:46 PM
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31. add this to the mix

Clayton Keir

"The September 6, 2007 Israeli strike inside Syria led to widespread speculation on the nature of the target. Commentators on international affairs and experts on nuclear issues have debated the possibility that the targeted site was a nuclear reactor provided by North Korea. The conclusion of the debate is critical, because Syrian nuclear proliferation would significantly undermine the security of a U.S. ally, Israel. I will critically analyze the different sides of the debate, debunk many arguments, and provide my own assessment. Despite concern from the U.S. Intelligence Community and some policy-makers that Syria was working on a nuclear fuel cycle, it is widely believed that Damascus could not develop an indigenous fuel cycle. I will also assess the claim that Syria could not develop an indigenous nuclear fuel cycle".


"In this paper I first examine Syria's indigenous nuclear capabilities. I argue that Syria is incapable of indigenously mastering the nuclear fuel cycle. Then, I analyze the suspected reactor site, and critically assess claims that it was a nuclear reactor construction site, and that it is of North Korean origin. I assess that it probably was a nuclear reactor construction site, and that it probably was of North Korean origin. Finally, the paper offers policy recommendations in light of my assessments."

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2007/syria_nuke.htm
Syria's Nuclear Program
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:43 PM
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32. Worth another kick today...
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:06 PM
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33.  Kick...
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:24 PM
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34. ^
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