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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:30 PM
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Ok What's he hiding?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_delays_releasing_medical_records_again_0404.html


rawstory.com — On Wednesday, McCain's campaign told CNN that the Arizona Senator's medical records would be released May 15th. Trouble is, they previously said they'd be released April 15th, and they've refused to turn the records over to the New York Times on at least 3 occasions.

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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:32 PM
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1. This is an unfair request
IMHO McCain should tell the NYT to play in traffic.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:37 PM
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5. You are naive! I want a healthy man in the W.H. and one that isn't shouldn't even be considered.
Besides the beast has a mortal head wound. Bushitler could be the precursor mentioned :evilgrin: Wake up!
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:40 PM
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7. So I guess you would have never voted for Franklin Delano Roosevelt
I think McCain does not have to show shit about his records. If you think he looks like hell, don't vote for him.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:44 PM
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9. I never even considered voting for lumpy are you nuts?
or just full of nutfuckery? No legs is different than a head full of cancer.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:41 PM
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8. NO
If people are concerned about his age and health they have other options at the voting booth. His health records are not your business or anyone else's.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:45 PM
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10. Public person, and yes it should be disclosed.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:23 PM
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13. NO
There is no such thing as a "public person" - Between Roe V Wade and HIPAA we have established THAT. No one's body is any of your business but your own.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:25 PM
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14. A brain cancer head in the w.h. possibility is not a possibility.
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 11:26 PM by lonestarnot
If that is what he is hiding.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:25 AM
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23. I have to disagree here and side with lonestarnot...
While it normally isn't anyone elses business, he *is* running for the highest office in the land, and people who would vote for him have the right to know whether he is mentally stable, in good phyiscal health, etc., etc...

Honestly, do you think it's fair to those voters, or the rest of the country, to have a man voted in that has absolutely no chance of finishing his term? Would you honestly devote *your* time and effort to get even a Dem elected if he wasn't going to be around in 6 months or a year? You'd have to choose someone else who is up to the job and capable of seeing it through. It wouldn't be fair to the people or the other candidates. You've got to think about his VP choice, too... who's gonna step up and take his place? Jeb Bush? Pat Buchanan? Mike Huckleberry? Joe Lieberman? His choice of VP is going to be interesting.

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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:37 PM
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29. they use dirty tactics all the time.
this election is too important not to win my any means necessary.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:59 PM
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33. Fuck 'fair'
'Fair' gets us ..... what?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:00 PM
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34. Bullshit and codswollop. Since when is HOLDING THEM TO THEIR WORD "unfair"?
They said they'd release the records- TWICE.
And they've broken their word both times.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:33 PM
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2. I think he has a number of health problems
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:33 PM
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3. His medical records somehow got mixed up with Bill's library donor list
Its a terrible mess, one that may never be resolved.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:33 PM
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4. I worry about many things more than his health. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:38 PM
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6. And his selection for V.P.?
Because I certainly don't give a fuck about him.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:55 PM
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11. I'm most concerned that McSame is a twitching psycho.
I read an article that said the while in high school study hall, he'd constanly clench and unclench his jaw.
Other students were disturbed at his apparently unstable behavior, and all this was before...
1) He finished 5th to last in his Naval academy class
2) Lost several aircraft during missions over Nam
3) Was tortured repeatedly for seven years
4) Married a drug addled booze heiress
5) Smoked Bush's pole while selling out his former moderate views
6) Sang "bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"
The guy is fuckin' mental...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:01 PM
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12. And maybe has brain cancer on top of all that!
Yikes!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:06 AM
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16. Actually the two last bits MIGHT be explainable by
cancer.

And I say ALL presidential candidates should be put through battery of physical and psychiatric tests, as well as pee in a cup


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:24 AM
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18. Yes! Piss in a cup, blood in a vile, make sure they are human!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:46 AM
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20. And the VP too!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:03 AM
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22. Of course, after they are one heartbeat and all that
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:53 AM
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40. Good point. It's done for far lesser jobs than POTUS
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:53 AM
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36. I agree with
The guy is fuckin' mental...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:00 AM
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15. kick
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:23 AM
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17. As a general rule, I am respectful both of a person's right to privacy
on personal issues such as the status of one's bodily health, and also I try to be sensitive to the rights of the ill and disabled. A physical ailment does not necessarily diminish a person's capacity for acomplishing many things, and his health alone, or a combination of his health and age, or his health and age along with the real concern anyone might have about his temperment (apparently a hotheadedness and impulsiveness he's had life-long)--should not by themselves be a deal-breaker. If Sen. McCain has a health issue, it need not be a disqualifier for him pursuing the highest office in the land, a key position on the world stage, and one of the most stressful jobs imaginable, if he feels certain that he is up to the rigors, both physical and mental, that will be demanded of him. It is simply up to those who have viewed his record on any number of issues to recognize that he is *not* up to the rigors of the office--as his recent comments about the ceasefire in Basra and the relationship between Iran & Al-Qaida show, and his "Bomb, bomb Iran" ditty suggest--he is not really showing commander -in-chief material.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:26 AM
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19. Wrong. It must be disclosed. Period. What is he hiding?
And why are you condoning it?
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:48 AM
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25. Perhaps I was too coy--
I said that in general I am respectful of privacy and that his bodily health should not be a deal breaker--but if you look at this: A physical ailment does not necessarily diminish a person's capacity for acomplishing many things, and his health alone, or a combination of his health and age, or his health and age along with the real concern anyone might have about his temperment I am being snarky. I don't condone his "hiding" his medical record, I just don't suppose that his being a potentially old and sick person is the main reason anyone should use for voting against him--him being him is reason enough. If someone turned up with,say, a serious back problem, exacerbated by a love of roughhousing and other things perilous to one's lumbar health and a potentially fatal endocrine issue that merited regular hormone shots--but was otherwise extremely intelligent and charismatic and wanted to lead the country in a strongly progressive way--um, would health be an issue, there? Or if someone was unable to do much more than stand, sometimes, barely could walk, and had a heart issue? Is that going to make someone unable to do the job for two terms or so? I am saying health is not a main issue--the main issues are the main issues.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:40 AM
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26. No as none of the ailments you speak of diminish thinking capacity.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:02 AM
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21. kick
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:47 AM
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24. God, I can see why Democrats always lose. You twist the knife, people-- you don't pull it out.
Jesus. The proper response here is, "is McCain hiding his Alzheimers disease?", not "well gee whiz, we should be fair and let him keep his privacy".

And please, don't give me that shit about being like them. Do you want to win or not?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:41 AM
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27. LOL!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:34 PM
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28. kick
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:48 PM
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30. kick
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:57 PM
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31. i swear bushie boy has had his medical manipulated at least 6 years
running

i believe NUTHIN
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:56 PM
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32. kick
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:49 AM
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35. kick
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:35 AM
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37. kick
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:45 AM
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38. I've read many of these posts in this thread
and, both sides argue effectively.

My 2¢: He should be subjected to a psychological test and he should be screened for substance abuse. Just like anyone on the work force.

And that goes for all federal employees!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:51 AM
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39. I'll take that too, as Cindy is a drug addict. But my main concern is as the pug nominee, he should
pass the rigors of a stringent med exam as should all nominees, even soon to be Barack!
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:24 PM
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43. I have to admit, though,
the FDR example is a compelling one.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:32 PM
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44. FDR did not have an afflicted brain. Sorry not compelling.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:56 PM
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45. OK
I was merely referring to a medical examination.

But actually a medical examination should also be compulsory.

Just for the record, we are not in dispute over his damaged brain. Although, I believe him to be a congenital nitwit on the same order as the creature called Bush.

And it always embarrasses me profoundly how America let such an evil sack of shit President -- TWICE!!!

And the entire roster of Republican Presidential wannabe's is humiliating.

Peace!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:24 PM
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46. Peace Nathan Hale!
:hug:
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:54 AM
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41. I question if McSame
has PTSD issues that have not been treated, his legendary temper might suggest that he still has unresolved issues with that. He claims that he is working on his temper, what exactly does that mean, has he had treatment, does he need treatment, all issues that voters have every right to question? We now know that Ronnie Raygun was showing signs of Alzheimer's early in his Presidency, shouldn't we know before the election is McSame might also be afflicted?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:56 AM
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42. We should absolutely have access to that knowledge. Brain afflictions do not fit well into a
presidential candidate unless you're chimpy.
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