One Thing Democrat Sex Scandals Have Over Repub Ones

[KingOfLostSouls]

while its not exactly glamorous to get caught playing hide the salami with prostitutes, its still consensual


at least it doesn't involve little boys in the cloak room or propositioning strangers in various public restrooms across america, hahahaha

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. It's just rather unfortunate that it is, currently, against the law...and also

the very thing that Mr. Spitzer, himself, was publicly disgusted with. No pass. All of them are slime.

[KingOfLostSouls]

9. yeah, prostitution should be legal

its the worlds oldest profession. theres far more important things to worry about than regulating what people do with their bodies.


and yeah, I had such high hopes for eliot as a future presidential contender. I still like him, this doesn't change anything other than he made a stupid decision.

I'd rather have a public official who drinks, smokes cigars, and has the occassional daliance but does a damn fine than one who talks about going to church on sunday and votes republican and chases little boys around.

it worked for FDR and churchill and kennedy.

[ScreamingMeemie]

11. If he hadn't prosecuted that crime I might think differently.

If he hadn't lobbied for wiretaps, I might think differently. Sex aside, he's a hypocrite.

[KingOfLostSouls]

18. yeah

he stepped in it big time, thats for sure.

still though, for some reason my bullshit meter is going off. some kind of sixth sense on this thing that this is a political hit job.

they've probably known he's been involved with prostitutes before, its nothing new. but this is I dunno

kinda that hair standing up on the back of my neck thing that this has political hit job. I mean, just as the chimp administration is wanting more wire tapping I mean

I think we all know they've been using it to wire tap political enemies. I think spitzer was towards the top of the list

[ScreamingMeemie]

24. But the thing is, Spitzer joined with Pataki in asking for more wiretapping

privileges...

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Mr. Spitzer recently joined with Gov. George E. Pataki, a Republican, in proposing new legislation that would expand the state's wiretapping powers. The proposal is opposed by some Democrats in the Assembly.

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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C07E4DA163BF937A25757C0A9629C8B63


In 2004 he was right in line with the thing that eventually would nail him. I think he just believed he was above it all.


Edited for spelling...stupid privilege gets me every time.

[mac2]

27. Both parties are playing games with our rights and freedoms

[ScreamingMeemie]

28. ...and both need to pay.... Mr. Spitzer is not just a man who cheated

on his wife. What he does or does not do within his marriage is of no concern to me. It is when he is accused, and pretty much admits to, some dealings with a prostitution ring when he has prosecuted said dealings, that I begin to detest him.

[mac2]

30. See post #12

A lot more than getting rid of a governor who broke the law is at stake.

[ScreamingMeemie]

32. It is time to clean house. Across the aisles.

If you read my posts, that is what I believe it is time for. It ends now. And standing up for Spitzer is not on my agenda. That he thought he could get away with it blows my mind.

[KingOfLostSouls]

36. He should resign

I don't think he should be prosecuted, since I believe prostitution should be legal. its not like he's some crazed sex offender or something.

but he should definitely resign at this point unless he figures a way to work it out with the feds on the whole thing. he's a good politician, I'd hate to see his career come to an end because he couldn't keep his winky in his pants.

[KingOfLostSouls]

33. well I do have to give him credit

and this is me being a male pig here but at least he was getting his money's worth, heh.


seriously, if not for the Mann act part about transporting her across state lines, it'd be one of those shrug your shoulders things like, "oh boy another politician caught with his pants down."


I'm just glad it was with some attractive young ladies in a consensual manner rather than pulling a mark foley. I mean, there you had the whole republican party covering for a pedophile. at least our guys will you know, keep it more on the austin powers side of things.

[mac2]

35. I'm sick to death of these politicans

We appoint them to public office so they represent our interests. They don't. And now they let us down allowing the other party to gain over us...once again.

When can we get back to our daily lives without fear and worrying about what they will do next?

[KingOfLostSouls]

37. they're human

its that the republican noise machine has built up this bullshit mentality in society that politicians have to be squeaky clean.

if a politician told me he didn't drink, didn't smoke, didn't check out women, had never gambled, told a lie, or looked at boobies I'd call them a liar.

it was disgusting watching hannity sit there on his fat fucking ass with his whole fake, shit whats the word...the whole false indignation of it, like conservatives are so much better and so much cleaner.

I swear to god they'll find a bunch of 12 year old boys chained up in cages in hannity and rick santorum's basements. its like bill hicks said about jesse helms.

I mean those fuckers were covering up for a PEDOPHILE. the entire republican house membership was covering for a known pedophile, conservative talk show hosts were making excuses for a PEDOPHILE. and they wanna act outraged because, oh no eliot spitzer made sweet lovin to an attractive young woman. CONSENSUALLY.

the more righteous a person tends to act, the more they're full of shit. its why I don't like vice laws. spitzer stepped in it by prosecuting prostitution but overall, the whole morality thing needs to come to an end.

[mac2]

39. I understand.

I did not support the impeachment of Clinton for his affair with Monica. It was a painful thing to see our government go through that embarrassing sex thing. The world laughing at us.

I did want him impeached for NAFTA and media consolidation. It was unconstitutional.

Most of Congress would have come under impeachment for ignoring our Constitution and borders.

Once again "Monica" sex covered it all up. Don't you wonder now how many outrageous things they are covering up now?

[KingOfLostSouls]

40. plenty

the administration and republicans are desperate to clear the news cycle

anything to get the recession, the failed war, bolton and miers being held in contempt, etc etc


ANYTHING to get this off the air.


what I'm wondering is what is coming up.

if the democrats drop their charges against bolton and miers, there you go. that'd be the biggest one I could think of because that involves the USA scandal.

[KingOfLostSouls]

29. true

but he was looking for state ones, not exactly the same as federal ones.

and he just wanted to update it for new technology, not to expand it to warrentless wiretapping like the chimp administration.


I dunno, something just doesn't "feel" right about this whole thing. I'm definitely starting to feel a political hit on this one. especially with miers and bolton blowing up in congress, maybe sending a little message. "we got the goods on one of your best, imagine what we have on you."

we'll find out as things go along but I have a sick feeling that the dots will connect on this one.

[ScreamingMeemie]

31. He was lobbying for a change in Federal Law. A loophole in the

FCC laws. That is not state level.

[KingOfLostSouls]

34. yeah I read that part

I can see how he wanted to expand it but yeah I get what you're saying.

[mac2]

38. Roosevelt said something like...

Nothing is by accident in government.

I feel you are right about the dots...being a dot person regarding story about 911 and Katrina.

[CookCountyResident]

14. It's not the "dalliance" for which he'll be prosecuted.

It will be the moving around of the cash (concealment which is what brought on the IRS/Feds attention in the first place) and the interstate commerce aspect of paying for her travel, etc. from NY to DC (or vice versa?).

[KingOfLostSouls]

23. the mann act

dan abrams had it on tonight.

that was stupid on his part.

but while it is breaking the law its like one of those stupid laws that make you go, "so what, he paid for sex."

its like david vitter, ok so he was paying for sex, big deal. as long as children aren't harmed and its consensual, I generally don't care

still, real stupid on spitzer's part.

[RB TexLa]

2. Democrats used to have the courage to stand up and fight the charges. I guess this one doesn't

[ScreamingMeemie]

3. Well, of course not, because then he would be a certified hypocritical

ass.

[RB TexLa]

4. Not really a concern.

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. Completely and utterly a concern. After having locked up people for it.

After having lobbied for more wiretapping, right alongside Bush:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C07E4DA163BF937A25757C0A9629C8B63

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Mr. Spitzer wants the commission to compel communications companies to build surveillance capabilities into cellphones that use new technology, and into the new Internet-based telephone services. That puts Mr. Spitzer, a Democrat who is said to be considering a run for governor, in step with the Bush administration's Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation, which have similarly asked the commission for the change.

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New York State accounts for roughly 30 percent of all the wiretaps done in the nation, Mr. Spitzer said in a filing with the commission.

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Mr. Spitzer recently joined with Gov. George E. Pataki, a Republican, in proposing new legislation that would expand the state's wiretapping powers. The proposal is opposed by some Democrats in the Assembly.

-snip


He set the trap himself and now he can't gnaw his way out. Sorry.

[RB TexLa]

8. Sorry, I'm not part of the "Ethics, ethics, ethics choir" here.

[ScreamingMeemie]

10. I am. Only if you speak it. If you speak it, you best act it...otherwise

you're nothing but a fucking hypocrite. Right on the level with the Republicans who have been caught.

[CookCountyResident]

25. You nailed it.

He can be ultimately disbarred if found guilty of what are likely to be some sort of felony (i.e. interstate) charges.

It's not about the sex act, folks.

It's about the money - he was definitely trying to conceal his activities, knowing full well that a credit card transaction would leave a wire trace.

And it's also about transporting the woman for these "business" activities over state borders - there is some sort of interstate trafficking thing going on here too.

[CookCountyResident]

15. Keep in mind he's a former prosecutor

and probably knows the evidence is HUGELY stacked against him at this point.

[mac2]

43. Did that ever bother any Republican in high office?

[CookCountyResident]

17. Keep in mind he's a former prosecutor and....

and probably knows the evidence is HUGELY stacked against him at this point.

[EFerrari]

5. Yes, Democratic sex scandals tend to be between adults and consensual

and not about forcing yourself on children or animals.

Maybe that's why Republicans hate sex so much. They don't know how to do it or when or where.

[KingOfLostSouls]

13. republicans hate sex so much

because they fail at it.


no woman could tell me that the idea of snuggling up to rush limbaugh's pasty sweaty smelly ass at night makes them not only get turned on like a rabbit in springtime but makes them want to vote republican.


the only fucking over republicans are capable of involves doing it to the american people.

[EFerrari]

19. Republicans hate sex because they imagine other people enjoy it.

That's enough for them. Republican sex is what we know as envy.

[KingOfLostSouls]

20. republican sex

"sean I absolutely agree with you"

"I'm glad you do too, dick morris."



the fact republicans consider ann coulter a sex symbol means they probably think day of the dead is a porno.

[mac2]

21. They are riddled with guilt.

[mondo joe]

22. Republicans just believe sex is DIRTY, so they have to deal with it by repression or by force,

or both. It's how they can do it but still think they're "clean".

[DainBramaged]

6. "Hide the salami"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Is that the same as bury the weiner?


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[mac2]

12. Yes they're back in the wings waiting to rape NY once again.

RW media wants Governor Spitzer (like the governor of New Jersey) to resign but not the other boy abusers in Congress? Media you stink to high partisan politics.

Just in time for the elections? Can't win NY State back for Republican plundering otherwise.

They said, it is much more than prostitution...money across state lines, etc. Criminal activity, etc.

What about public sex acts in airports...across state lines.

Frankly I can't see how any public figure would believe no one would be following and listening in on their lives. They have enemies. It's the age of Bush and international spy rings for god sake! New York State governor is a very powerful person. NY State has lots of resources the Republicans aren't through pillaging.

NY State you had better elect a Democratic governor again...a Progressive. The thieves are at the door!!

I even wonder if the party leaders don't seek out candidates for high office because they have some part of their lives which are "dark". Then they can bribe them. When they push them to far...they say OK tell the world but I won't do this or that. Just a thought I've had about this criminal gang in our country for some time.

[frazzled]

16. Pssst: the adjectival form for Democrat is DemocratIC

If you don't want to be accused of/exposed as a winger, I'd suggest you use the correct form of the word, not the one Newt Gingrich told Republicans to use (as in "Democrat" Party).

Just a friendly hint.

[KingOfLostSouls]

26. Republican sex

comes in one of three categories


1. three hours of begging, 30 seconds of grunting, then the women openly weeping

2. duct tape, a van, and "IT PUTS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN!!!"

3. karl rove and sean hannity cruising public schools with a bag of candy and a clown costume.

[Echo In Light]

44. LOL ...#2! Rightists seem to harbor a lot of sexual frustration/anxiety, so..

It manifests in unhealthy ways. They're also highly projective, imputing to others that which they themselves unconsciously harbor, and therefore fear and loath. Hence their lip service "contempt" for most issues that are sexual in nature.

[Generic Brad]

41. There's also guilt

Democrats apologize and resign. Republicans apologize for getting caught and then stubbornly remain in office.

[mac2]

42. See post #38

[niceypoo]

45. Democrats have sex with ADULTS

and if they have sex with ADULTS of their same gender, BIG DEAL. With republicans it is either sex with a kid or the most anti-gay homophobe on earth having sex with some guy in a mens room.

[Balbus]

46. In other words, what you're saying is, at least it was between a man and a woman...

Not that disgusting gay sex stuff....

Isn't that what you really mean?

[mondo joe]

48. I took it to mean: at least it was between adults, rather than coerced teenagers. NT

[Ganja Ninja]

47. Yes, at least these were classy hookers and not some bum in a

bathroom or farm animals or little boys or house pages. And as far as we know no diapers were involved.