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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:04 PM
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People, it's COLOMBIA, not Columbia...
Columbia can be the space shuttle, the district, the University, the glacier, the mount, the river, etc... but NOT the country.

It is spelled Colombia, with the O's. When you spell it Columbia, I feel like in freeperland, reading about morans... seriesly, it is nukular to me!!


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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:08 PM
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1. hey, y'all....like in "Romancing the Stone"....
see Cartagena up at the top?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:09 PM
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2. What brought on this post?
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:37 PM
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11. Constant posts referring to the conflict between Ecuador/Venezuela and "Columbia"... nt
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:10 PM
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3. How about when Columbia University is mentioned to a clueless
person & they say something about it being too hot in South America.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:13 PM
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4. ahh the country with all the drug cartels!!...gotcha!! eom
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:46 PM
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17. Hey I should feel insulted
some of them drug cartels are in Mexico, and if you pay attention even the US has a couple...


:-)

No, they don't have the monopoly
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:52 PM
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22. hey nadin ..the book i am reading is full of it...sorry ...i got carried away!!
i have just been reading about all the drug cartels there..and yes in mexico...

Barry and the Boys..whoaaaaaaaaaaa...i have brain freeze from all i am reading about it..

well and you could say..easily..my state of sunshine..Florida...

fly:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:13 PM
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5. Why do they mispell it with an O?
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 08:13 PM by aikoaiko

;)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:19 PM
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6. We Even Get The Dude's Name Wrong
Christopher Columbus? Try Colon...his real name.

In 7th grade I had a history teacher that flunked a bunch of kids on a test for spelling Colombia wrong...back in the days when you could open an atlass and most people knew where things were.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:34 PM
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10. Is that the feminine of "atlas"?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:43 PM
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16. No, it's an atlas of the gluteus regions. -nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:46 PM
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18. Is it hot there too?
What's the average temperature? Any active volcanoes?

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:49 PM
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21. Yes, it's hot - about 98 degrees Fahrenheit. One active volcano, located between two hills. -nt
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:54 PM
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23. A mud volcano n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:56 PM
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24. I'd love to go.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:29 PM
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36. Heh hehe he said Colon


Isn't "Colon" actually the Spanish version of his name, and the original Italian Cristoforo Colombo?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:48 PM
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38. Cristbal Coln
From which we get words like "colony," "colonial," "colonialism," and "colonization."


:evilgrin:

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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:20 PM
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7. because Columbia is the Gem of the Ocean and Colombia is the birthplace of Sinsemillia. n/t
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:25 PM
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8. Thank you. Gave a current events survey to a group of undergraduates
20 years ago, asking "Name three countries in Central America." My favorite response (among many doozeys) was "U.S. and Canada."
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:27 PM
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9. Just what kind of asparagus are you casting here?
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 08:31 PM by Kurovski
:rofl:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:34 PM
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41. Perhaps it's "providense"


Maybe we should ask Mat.

:hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:44 PM
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42. Do they grow aspersions in providense?
I love steamed aspersions with morals. :hi:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:00 PM
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43. Quit truffeling with me!
You know how I love creamy aspersion soup with peta bread. :hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:10 PM
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44. I had a peta bred asp, its mama was rescued from a lab.
And the lab was rescued from Lancome.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:21 PM
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46. She swallowed the lab to catch the asp. She swallowed the lancome gift bag to catch the lab,
lab, but I don't know why she swallowed the peta bred.. :silly:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:34 PM
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47. Perhaps she's ded?
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:37 PM
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12. Alsooooooooooo. It's 'serious' not 'series'.
Series is defined as a sequence or succession. Serious is defined as significant or imperative.

If you say, "I am series." You are a sequence and you can't really be serious.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:39 PM
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13. OMG!! Are you series???!!?! nt
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:40 PM
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14. You SERIES??!!?
I did not know that.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:49 PM
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20. i did not now that either.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:11 PM
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27. Its "series," d00d
Only morans spell it "serious."
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:41 PM
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15. well, we can at least agree that it's Equador, can't we?
;-)
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:48 PM
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19. Thank you......but I think you are a bit anal
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:07 PM
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25. THANK YOU! This drives me NUTS! COLOMBIA...beautiful country, beautiful people! (n/t)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:50 PM
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39. That's not a drive. It's a short putt ... and you should be so lucky.
"Nuts" is a Good Thing.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:08 PM
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26. Thank you! And thank you for the very handy map!
I was thinking of posting an OP entitled, "Can we please have a quiet little thread about Bush/U.S. military support of Colombian invasion of Ecuador?" - but it's too long for a title, and anyway would get lost in the CAPITALIZED ANNOUNCEMENTS OF NOTHING--no word yet on how OH, TX and others voted. Except, VT went for Obama, big--but then VTers also want to secede from Bush/U.S.A., so I dunno if that's good or bad for Obama--although a couple of times in the last two days I, too, have felt like "seceding" from Bush/U.S.A.

In one fell swoop, Bush/U.S.A. killed all hopes for more hostage releases in Colombia, and all hope for a peaceful settlement of Colombia's 40+ year civil war. Colombia sent bombs and soldiers into Ecuador, directed by U.S. surveillance, probably from the U.S./Bush spy base in Manta, Ecuador (and, with whatever other U.S. support we don't know - aside from the billions and billions of our taxpayer dollars for military aid to the fascist Colombian regime). They murdered the leftist guerrilla (FARC) hostage negotiator, Raul Reyes, who was about to release 12 more hostages, including the French-Colombian former presidential candidate, Ingrid Betancourt, to Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa.

Correa is VERY UPSET, both at the blatant violation of Ecuador's sovereignty, and at the end of hopes for peace in Colombia. He is also upset that Colombia's president lied to him--told him they were in hot pursuit, when, in truth, Raul Reyes and his group of 16 or so rebels, were ASLEEP, in a camp in the jungle on Ecuador's side of the border. Only one Colombian soldier was killed, and Reyes and all who were with him were killed, which means it was a massacre. Furthermore, they knew who they were killing--the hostage negotiator, the guy whom Correa, and also Chavez of Venezuela, and the President of France, were in contact with, for Betancourt's and others' release. The U.S. intercepted a phone call from Reyes, and pointed Colombia at the target.

The consequences of this U.S./Bush military cooperation with Colombia, on invading Ecuador and killing the hostage negotiator (who has been involved in FARC's release of six hostages this year--mostly Chavez's doing), in overwhelmingly leftist South America (leftist governments now in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile and Nicaragua--with strong alliances among them, on goals of social justice and regional self-determination) could be dire. It could even mean expulsion of the U.S. from the OAS (something that Nicaragua proposed to the meeting of Latin American countries, Spain and Portugal, only a few months ago).

The U.S. reputation in South America is totally in the mud. And the reason will not surprise you: This sabotage of a peace settlement in Colombia is part of a Donald Rumsfeld war plan to regain control of the Andes oil fields for his global corporate predator pals--Exxon Mobil, Occidental Petroleum and others. The key to his plan is the Bush/U.S.-militarized Colombia. He lays it out here...

"The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chvez," by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html

He urges a "free trade" deal for Colombia (free fire zone for killing union leaders) and economic warfare against Venezuela (with Exxon Mobil soon afterward taking legal action to freeze $12 billion in Venezuela's assets*) and other "tyrants" (Correa? Both Chavez and Correa are democratically elected leaders, and both are hugely popular as well.) He further urges that the U.S. take "swift action" in support of "friends and allies" in South America. The Bush Junta has almost no "friends and allies" in South America, except the fascists running Colombia, and fascist cells within Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Argentina, planning coups against these democratic governments, with Bush/U.S. funding.

These are the countries with the oil. Venezuela and Ecuador are members of OPEC, and have lots and lots of oil. Bolivia has some oil, and lots and lots of gas. There was a big oil find in Argentina recently, and they are strong allies with the other three.

The Bush Junta has been working on this war plan for some time, and, now that they've been denied Iran's oil fields, the plan is in motion. Oil War II. It's trickier than Iraq, because all of the governments they intend to topple are democracies--and not just democracies, but good democracies, with transparent elections (unlike our own) and social justice goals (unlike our own). A lot of covert work has been done. They've armed Colombia--a Bush Cartel client state--to the hilt. They have all along been trying to sabotage the hostage releases, and peace talks, but have failed. Now they mean to create a "hot" war, to destabilize the region. Pure Rumsfeld. Create "chaos and opportunity" with bloodshed.

And we, the people of the U.S., stand helplessly by--most of us deliberately kept ignorant of all of this by complicit corporate news monopolies, and our hapless, hopeless, or complicit Democratic Party leaders. In essence, we just invaded Ecuador--and started Oil War II--and hardly anybody knows it, in this country.

I've been watching and researching this situation for several years, and I thought they were going to strike first in Bolivia (further to the south). That may still happen. There is a Bush/U.S.-funded rightwing separatist movement in Bolivia, that could cause serious destabilization and armed conflict. Basically, the rich rural landowners want to split off their gas/oil rich provinces from the central government of Evo Morales, the first indigenous president of Bolivia--in a primarily indigenous country--to deny benefit of those resources to the poor urban majority. And the Bushites are naturally supporting the greedy elitists and their murderous militias. So this situation could also explode, as well. Morales is a strong ally of Venezuela. In fact, there is hardly a country in South America that isn't a strong ally of Venezuela. Which is why Rumsfeld will lose this war. But he is capable of creating havoc before he loses--and also of throwing this live hand grenade into the middle of the presidential election here, or into the lap of the new President.

And we thought Rumsfeld had "retired." Not so.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:12 PM
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28. Here's a hilarious web site about Bushite misadventures in South America...
that is up to date on current developments (and also very informative):
www.BoRev.net

You won't regret it.

And for the more serious-minded...

www.venezuelanalysis.com.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:21 PM
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32. I put the link up on digg.com the better to be seen. . .n/t
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:13 PM
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45. "CAPITALIZED ANNOUNCEMENTS OF NOTHING"
:applause:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:56 PM
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29. Kick. (nt)
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:06 PM
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30. I'll bet that they will declare 'marshall law' there soon
;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:08 PM
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31. Not if they call out the calvary.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:33 PM
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37. The calvary: armed religious fanatics on horses
Back in the Dark Ages, they were called nights.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:27 PM
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40. I think we should call it a knight.
I'm tired and horse.
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DrCory Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:36 PM
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33. Thanks for the reminder...
For some odd reason, this is something which I can't seem to remember when it's needed most.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:57 PM
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34. What a terrible fopah !!11!!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:05 PM
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35. Great map, thanks Arcos
Colombia one of the few places that rivals the beauty of Costa Rica.
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