Tom Toles on Ralph Nader

[Buzz Clik]

[Richardo]

1. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

I love Tom Toles. Thanks! :rofl:

[bryant69]

2. That is a pretty good one

I like the line at the bottom.

Bryant
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[Buzz Clik]

3. I happened to see Tucker Carlson's interview of Nader yesterday...

Carlson egged on Nader with great delight in Nader's hammering of Clinton and Obama, and Carlson encouraged Nader's campaign.

However, when Nader started to criticize current Bush policies, Carlson cut him off in mid sentence and ended the interview.

It was a classic moment.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Tucker who????????????

:rofl:

Oh yes, that nitwit in the bowtie....

Great cartoon. Thanks for posting.

[DemoTex]

5. Give Nader a Chevy Corvair ..

.. and put him on the infamous Washington, DC, beltway.

:kick:

[wtmusic]

6. Nader has saved more lives than any American in history

yet we feel no compunction about tossing him under the bus for a wooden campaign and a bad SCOTUS decision.

History rewriting at its finest.

[Buzz Clik]

7. I am a HUGE Nader fan.

Nader was a fantastic consumer advocate, and I adored him.

I supported his right to run in 2000, and I've defended him here at DU for the past 7 years.

This latest announcement is hollow and lacks his past credibility. His simply doesn't know when to stop. He doesn't know how to be a continued influence.

Now, despite his glorious past, he's coming across as nothing more than someone desperate for attention.

[wtmusic]

8. Nader harbors no illusions of winning

and simply wants corporate accountability and antitrust enforced.

Has either Obama/Hillary so much as mentioned antitrust or media consolidation? Someone has to hold their feet to the fire.

[Buzz Clik]

9. And rather than become part of the process of change, he wants only to disrupt.

In 2000, Nader literally laughed out loud and said that if Bush won the election, the environmentalists would have a lot more to do in 2008. Indeed, Bush has nearly destroyed the environmental industry in this country. Rather than help get us back on track, he now wants to try to set us back another 4 to 8 years.

Not this time.

I will be vocal and loud against Nader's campaign even though I believe in his ideals. He is no longer helping the cause.

[Bake]

11. Because his candidacy endangers YOUR guy's chances?

Yeah, that's different, isn't it.

Nader fucked us in 2000, and he'll fuck us this year if he can. And the Pukes will fund his campaign.

Bake

[Buzz Clik]

13. Relax. I voted for Gore in 2000.

When I said I supported his candidacy, I meant that I supported his right to run.

And, yes, he fucked us. I think I made that pretty clear.

We're on the same side here.

[blondeatlast]

16. Then he needs to use his considerable influence to help build a viable third party.

But instead he goes on talk shows.

[Touchdown]

10. You got proof of that? I call bullshit.

Jonas Salk anyone?

You've been taking your hyperbole classes too seriously.:eyes:

[wtmusic]

12. How dare you make me back up my claims

and be late for work...again.

They're comparable:

"NHTSA estimates that safety belts have saved 147,246 lives in the period 1975-2001, and air bags saved 8,369 lives savings in the period 1991-2001, during which about 109,000 lives were saved by belts and 8,000 by air bags."

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-01/esv/esv18/CD/Files/18ESV-000500.pdf

"Before polio vaccine was available, 13,000 to 20,000 cases of paralytic polio were reported each year in the United States. These annual epidemics of polio often left thousands of victims--mostly children--in braces, crutches, wheelchairs, and iron lungs. The effects were life-long."


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/whatifstop.htm#polio

"The polio vaccines developed by Jonas Salk in 1952 and Albert Sabin in 1962 are credited with reducing the annual number of polio cases from many hundreds of thousands to around a thousand."

But polio was rarely fatal:
"Overall, 5–10% of patients with paralytic polio die due to the paralysis of muscles used for breathing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio

There ya go.

[Buzz Clik]

14. Ok... but what about Jeebus?

:evilgrin:

[wtmusic]

15. The Jeeb has multiple citizenship, and takes a lot of lives too

If we're venturing into the faith realm my vote goes to St. Chris:

[Touchdown]

17. And nobody but Nadir was pushing for seat belts?

At least Salk invented the Vaccine. It took Preston Tucker to install them in his Torpedo in the late 40s to get it started. Nadir was part of the drive, but he wasn't the only voice out there talking about safety belts or air bags, neither of which he invented, like Salk did.

Try again!

[wtmusic]

18. As a matter of fact it was only Nader

pushing singlehandedly, and it wasn't just seat belts but everything from safety glass to airbags:

"Nader's advocacy of automobile safety and the publicity generated by the publication of Unsafe at Any Speed, along with concern over escalating nationwide traffic fatalities, led to the unanimous passage of the 1966 National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. The Act established the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and marked an historic shift in responsibility for automobile safety from the consumer to the manufacturer. The legislation mandated a series of safety features for automobiles, beginning with safety belts and stronger windshields."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader

"Salk's so-called "killed" vaccine was tested and released for use in 1955 . It was effective in preventing most of the complications of polio, but did not prevent the initial, intestinal, infection from occurring. Sabin's "live" virus vaccine began international testing through the World Health Organization in 1957 when large groups of children in Russia, Holland, Mexico, Chile, Sweden and Japan received it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Sabin

Whoops! Try again yourself!