(David) Shuster to Return to MSNBC Prior to Democratic Debate in Ohio

[Hepburn]

David Shuster, who made the unfortunate “pimped out” comment about Chelsea Clinton, will return to MSNBC Feb. 22, four days before the network’s Democratic debate in Ohio.

The Clinton campaign had threatened to boycott the debate, but with Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) feeling the heat from now-front-runner Barack Obama (Ill.), Clinton needs the exposure the debate will generate as much as, if not more than, MSNBC does.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6532629.html?industryid=47171

[mcctatas]

1. Good...

I missed him (and for those of you who think he should have been hoist on his own petard, we will just have to agree to disagree)

[Hepburn]

6. What he said was really out of line...

...however, it seems to me it was said in an unthinking moment and came out totally wrong. I was really steamed when I first heard about it, but the more I thought about it, seems like he just screwed up totally, but was not malicious about it.

[DainBramaged]

16. HE IS NOT Rush Limpdick OR Bill o'reilly

[KharmaTrain]

18. What If Someone Said That About Your Daughter?

I'm sick and tired of Chelsea being attacked with zero merit...not just attacked but called one of the worst names a man can associate to a woman. Slip of the tongue? Just kidding? Wasn't malicious? It was stupid and unprofessional. He still said it...stuff that should have been left at the watercooler, not put on a national network. Words have consequences...and Schuster deserved what he got.

[mod mom]

24. I have a 10 yo daughter, but I know "pimping out" is a slang and have heard it used repeatedly this

way for several years, so I would not take the offense that was shown by the Clintons. I recently talked to my 11 yo about using the word at school after he came home and said one of his friends said his new )skater) shoes were "pimp" (in this case it meant cool). I told him it had dual meaning.

It might have been politically expedient in the short term for the Clintons, but I fear the long term effects by those who really know and respect Shuster will not benefit them.

[WinkyDink]

27. I agree. But it's the fact that it IS slang that makes me despair. But then, I remember Cronkite.

I do like DS, overall.

[KharmaTrain]

30. I Hope It Doesn't Hurt His Work Either...

I appreciate Shuster's work as a reporter...one of the few that has taken on this regime. His remarks were made as a "host"...it was a stupid, flippant remark that I'm sure he regrets now...but words do have consequences. He was supposed to serve in a professional capacity...street slang shouldn't be part of that vernacular. I consider myself very tolerant on what is said on the tube and I don't think people should be censored, but I do feel that when they say things that are offensive, they should be held responsible.

I'm no Clinton supporter, and I do see some of this being used for political purposes by the Clintons, but there is not just validity here, but also hypocrisy and professionalism. You never saw these terms applied to the boooosh twins. Look at how quickly they jumped to Mary Cheney's "defense" when John Kerry mentioned her name...and that wasn't politically motivated?

Hopefully Shuster will now go back to his reporting and MSNBC will think long and hard before they let him play host again any time soon.

[DefenseLawyer]

29. I hate to rehash all of this

but his unfortunate remarks were not aimed at Chelsea, they were aimed at the Clinton campaign. His point wasn't that Chelsea was a prostitute, it was that campaign was putting her out there to work for them, doing their bidding while at the same time isolating themselves from bad press by making her "off limits" to reporters questions; using her or as one might crudely put it, "pimping her out". Either way the story is dead, she was outraged, he apologized. The end. Stop pimping this story.

[KharmaTrain]

31. Then State It As Such...

I hope this mess passes, too. However you stated Chelsea's role in a far better and appropriate way than saying she was "pimpin'"...the choice of words was the problem here. Shuster could have and should have used other words...and this was in light of on-going complaints of sexist comments by many hosts on that network. At the time I said that Shuster was the unlucky sole who went that one bridge too far. As I said, words have consequences.

Now would the same corporate media use that same terminology to describe how Lynn Cheney worked on behalf of her father? The Shuster story is hashed, but the double-standard the corporate media uses in attacking Democrats and the use of sexist and racist innuedoes goes on.

[DefenseLawyer]

32. You don't know what "pimpin" means

With all do respect, "pimpin" is not slang for working as a prostitute, it is slang for working as a pimp, the guy who the prostitute works for. He didn't say she was a pimp, that wouldn't have made any sense in any context; he said her mother's campaign was "pimpin" her, in the manner I previously described. Of course as Big Daddy Kane will tell you, pimpin ain't easy.

[KharmaTrain]

33. No I Don't Use The Word Nor Care To Use It

The fact is deals with the worlds oldest profession and this is viewed in our society in derogatory terms and that this was applied to a person as a nasty attack is the point. Is this characterization used on other campaigns? So are all the other advocates working on all the other campaigns "pimpin'" as well? Sorry...if I want to hear news as street slang, I'll watch MTV News.

Cheers...

[DefenseLawyer]

34. No, the advocates are not pimpin

they are being PIMPED. That's the point. I don't disagree with you that it was a distasteful description, but the fact remains it was not directed at all toward Chelsea Clinton. It was applied to the Clinton campaign. Okay I think we have officially beaten this topic to death.

[mod mom]

22. I agree-he is a very good investigative reporter. His coverage during Libby trial was not only

excellent but he was one of the few to include members members of the new media (think Marcy Wheeler for those who actively paid attention). He made a mistake, he apologized. Time to move on and not ruin the career of a reporter who has championed telling the truth on this criminal administration!

[AlCzervik]

2. no way can she miss this debate.

[Hepburn]

4. Yeah....

...this is pretty much a "has to" for Hillary.

[Diane R]

3. Good. I'm tired of gov't officials intimidating our media. He did apologize.

[WinkyDink]

25. Journalists who are NOT "commentators" (e.g., Limbaugh, Buchanan, etc.)

should be SCRUPULOUS in their language.
The best I've seen in the last 8 years has been John King.
Schuster was second. I have no idea what prompted him to "get down wirh rhe street slang", but his apology came only after his initial defiant defense.

So for me, he's on probation.

[Patsy Stone]

5. Good news

Enjoy the rest of your vacation, David.

[AlCzervik]

8. Hi Pats!

:toast:

[Patsy Stone]

14. Hiya!

:toast:

[grasswire]

7. thank goodness

The whole mess reflected badly on Hillary.

[Bandit]

23. In your opinion only

IMO it reflects very well on her that she stands up for her family and doesn't let them get slandered irresponsibly by the MSM. She was very justified in her defense of her daughter and her campaign and my respect for her grows daily. For you not so much..

[NJSecularist]

9. Hilary milked the sympathy vote as much as she could

But there is nothing more than she can do. Hopefully Shuster will be part of the debate.

[Hepburn]

10. That she most certainly did do.

At first, she was like the offended mom and as a parent (and a mom) I could fully understand the outrage. But then...it got to be just a bit over done and it seemed like another sympathy ploy, read "victim", from Hillary.

[AlCzervik]

12. agreed, it was a piss poor choice of words but in the end he apologized even if

it took him a whole, he got suspended and the media has been jumping his shit, i'm going to guess he learned a lesson but now it's over, time to move it along.

[John Q. Citizen]

11. She tried to milk it dry, and people noticed. She turned a half day story into a 3 day story.

But all the other news was worse, so she had to run with it.

[Hepburn]

13. It was going like a soap opera for awhile....

...but, yeah, she needed to get back and tend to her campaign and suddenly what happened was not so bad after all.

[DainBramaged]

15. He was right

But he apologized, time to move on. He is an ally to the Progressive Left. We need him back on the air.

He is not Imus.

[SoCalDem]

38. I guess the Clintons never watched "Enhance My Conveyance"

[mysteryman2]

17. Bad Man

He is really insensitive.

[Hepburn]

21. So are most people, IMO. n/t

[Bandit]

26. Especially on this board it would appear

How would you feel if someone accused your daughter of being a whore and you using her service to benefit yourself. Wouldn't one assume most children will speak up for their parents without them being accused of being whores for doing so?

[Hepburn]

28. I don't have a daughter....however, I do have a son....and....

...if anyone attacked him with words, they would be on the ground, in pain and looking up at me ~~ and I am a crippled up senior mom. What Shuster did was HORRIBLE. But take a look around and see what is said to and about people every day. Especially people in the public view. Look at all the crap, for instance, that is said about movie stars, politicians and their families in general. Look at the crap that has been said about the Kennedys for years and years. Is it right? Hell no!! But it is a fact of public life IMO.

Shuster was wrong and what he did was horrible...but he got punched and hit the ground and now it is time to let it pass. Hillary's outrage at the beginning was well placed and in line, IMO, with what any parent would feel and how any parent would act. However, at a certain point, it is time to stop playing victim and move on. We have reached and passed that point now.

JMHO

[mysteryman2]

36. Bless You

Bless you I hope you get better is all I have to say.

[DainBramaged]

35. So is life, so are Rethuglicans who interrupt the memorial service for a hero to politic.

[golddigger]

19. Wow, just in time to start attacking Obama!

Let me say this one last time. The M$M are not our friends.

[mwb970]

20. Glad to hear it.

Shuster is an important part of my enjoyment of MSNBC. He is a solid reporter who wandered too far off-script on one occasion and paid a price for it. I'll be glad to see him back.

[mitchtv]

37. Great reporter, I'm glad he's back

A suspension was warranted, a dismissal was not.