Rachel Maddow Speaking of Super Delegates

[fascisthunter]

She's right... time to get rid of the damn existence of "super delegates".

[DesertFlower]

1. i agree. nt

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

2. Where did these so-called "super delegates" become part of the

Democratic Party. I thought we got rid of all the "smoky back rooms" in 1972?

[Redbear]

3. I agree.

Very undemocratic.

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. A super delegate has the same voting power of 10,000 voters

or more. I've heard that number quoted at least 3 different times
from 3 different radio hosts. I believe Thom Hartman was the
first to explain it that way.

[fascisthunter]

6. I Believe That Is Right

[Maribelle]

8. And the regular delegates have the same voting power of how many?

And just who on earth selects these delegates - - if you guessed the party you are correct.

People vote for elected officials that become superdelegates. The party picks delegates out of a field of applicants.

The people do not select the regular delegates that will represent them.

[MrMickeysMom]

17. We heard the same thing today.

He's usually on top, but I'd like to hear more about this by others!

[Maribelle]

5. Most super delegates are elected officials....

yes elected by the people. In their roles as elected officials they are representatives of the people.

This whole nonsense about the supers and not the people selecting the nominee is total bunk.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. They weren't elected for public office to chose my president

The only reasons super delegates was to overlord the democratic process.

[fascisthunter]

10. nice

and it is a Hillary supporter. Call me suprised... corporations over people/

[Maribelle]

15. Call me suprised... Hillary bashers would rather talk about anything but the issues.

But thanks for injecting your pomp.

[fascisthunter]

22. Do You Stick Your Nose in the Air Too

[Maribelle]

24. Did you notice I didn't ask you where you stick your nose?

I truly am not interested. Not only that, knowing where could make me a tad unwell.

[fascisthunter]

25. lol....get over yourself

[Maribelle]

11. They are not going to chose your president.

They will be voting for their party's nominee.

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. Super delegates aren't even elected by the populace.

Bill Clinton is a super delegate and hasn't been elected for anything in the last 8 years.

[Maribelle]

21. Regular delegates are not elected by the populace

and if they go to the convention committed, for the most part the commitment is only on the first vote. On the second vote, most are totally free to vote for any nominee they choose - - yes vote for any nominee they choose not voted by the populace.

[Maribelle]

12. Maybe you need to learn more about superdelegates then before you vote for your representative n-t

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. Voter Caging eh.....

Sounds like a plan.

[Maribelle]

23. That was merely a suggestion. Good gawd.

[SeattleGirl]

7. It IS time to get rid of them, and the electoral college too.

Both of them invalidate the votes of a great many people.

[MrMickeysMom]

13. I heard Hartman talking historically about them today...

... I actually don't recall them, but maybe it's because it used to be all "closed door" and the reason they existed was to settle a stale mate. However, now, it seems they exist to use a 10,000 to 1 vote when they don't like the way their party's voting.

How fucked up is THAT? :wtf:

[SoFlaJet]

18. I fear they will do as much damage

as the Supreme Court did in 2000 to the democratic process and party

[RamboLiberal]

19. Dan Abrams has started a campaign against them as well

He had segments on his show both Wed and Thur. He vows to carry it all the way to the convention if necessary.

I'll be really pissed at the Democratic party if they decide this race for either Obama or Clinton. And if they are going to count Michigan or Florida then they need a new election or caucaus in each state and allow the candidates time to campaign there IMHO. It especially wasn't right that Clinton's name was still on the ballot in Michigan.

[Maribelle]

20. One can clearly see why Obama supporters suddenly don't like superdelegates

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html