DODD is on the Senate Floor NOW -- re: FISA nt

[gateley]

[MissMillie]

1. my hero!

:thumbsup:

[gateley]

11. Your choice of hero speaks very highly of you.

:headbang:

[SoFlaJet]

2. Funny you should mention that

look at my thread right above yours

[gateley]

10. I saw that! And I couldn't agree more!

I keep asking, but not getting a real answer -- is there anything WE can DO?

[rodeodance]

3. talking of how Bush not following law--it has been a Pattern last 6-7 years.

[TwilightGardener]

4. Go Chris! The guardian of our Constitutional rights.

[ThomWV]

5. Stirring Speech!

[rodeodance]

6. I missed the beginning--Is Reid still pushing the bill giving Immunity?

[gateley]

19. I don't know -- I missed the beginning, too. Tuesday night I heard Reid

say he wanted to "wrap up" FISA by Thursday or Friday, but I don't know what he means by that.

[gateley]

7. Kick - I want everyone who's interested to know. nt

[EFerrari]

8. What a day. Earlier today, Barbara Boxer was kicking EPA b#tt

over the denial of CA's waiver. Too bad we don't have an army of both of these Senators.

[rodeodance]

12. good to about Boxer. yes, we need at LEAST 67 of these types.

[rodeodance]

13. REC

[gateley]

36. Boxer filibustered with Dodd on FISA last time. My fantasy ticket was

Biden/Boxer.

[maddezmom]

9. thanks for the reminder

:hi:

[rodeodance]

14. yes, Great to listen to real issues (been in GD-P too long).

[snappyturtle]

15. K&R I've been listening...Dodd is wonderful!

Wish this was on every channel across America. However, I predict the bill will pass.

[Eurobabe]

16. hi guys, just turned on C-SPAN 2, thanks!

[canoeist52]

17. Been switching from epa to fisa

Been switching from epa to fisa channels. Impressed with REAL patriotic democrats. At least the opposition can't say Dodd's running for office and it's political like last time.

[G_Leo_Criley]

18. Chris Dodd - great American patriot!

my hero too!

Here are the phone numbers courtesy of christy at firedoglake.com:


Call Call Call!!!! You support Chris Dodd and ask that these other Senators do the same! No retroactive immunity for telecomms! No blanket damn warrants against Americans either!

(Hope this list formats ok! first number is fax, followed by phone number)

Fax Phone
Feingold [phone] [phone]
Dodd [phone] [phone]
Obama [phone] [phone]
Sanders [phone] [phone]
Menendez [phone] [phone]
Biden [phone] [phone]
Brown [phone] [phone]
Harkin [phone] [phone]
Cardin [phone] [phone]
Clinton [phone] [phone]
Akaka [phone] [phone]
Webb [phone] [phone]
Kennedy [phone] [phone]
Boxer [phone] [phone]

Go Chris Dodd! :patriot:


glc

[rodeodance]

23. Thanks for phone #'s---I will do my duty and put a call into my Sentors. but

i know where russ fiengold stands (i will call and give him huggy)--and then call the other one--

[kelligesq]

26. How about repub numbers? need to let them know

where it's at. especially Spector

[G_Leo_Criley]

34. here's a link

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Where you can find any Senator's phone number.

The dems whose numbers I listed are those who've promised to support Dodd in this action to stop or amend the FISA bill so that it won't give retroactive immunity to the telecomms. Let's hold them to that promise.

Remember that a large part of this fight that Dodd is doing is not only against the repubs but against our own Democratic Party leadership! (Hard to believe that this even needs to happen!)

Let's support Dodd in this effort. He is working for us; for our rights!

glc

[kelligesq]

38. THIS NEW TOLL FREE WORKS

Toll Free Number


[phone]

we pay for that number and now they want us to pay legal fees and awards for
ATT wrong doing.

Sorry about the first number, guess they shut it off but I just checked this number and it works.

[G_Leo_Criley]

41. thanks kelligesq!

call 'em , call 'em, call 'em all!

glc

:toast:

[kelligesq]

43. :)

:KICK:

[VP505]

20. I just sent him

a big thank you for his well reasoned objection to this immunity crap, hope everyone will also thank him!

[gateley]

21. IMPORTANT: Link to ACLU Petition re: FISA if you haven't signed yet.

They'll also send a copy to your reps.

https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=Reid_FISA_petition3&s_s=AO&JServSessionIdr004=pfpjbgwdh2.app26a

[rodeodance]

24. will do

[gateley]

25. Thanks! nt

[rodeodance]

29. done---I had signed a Dodd one a while ago but this is new (to me)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

42. Done and thank you for providing this! nt

[antigop]

22. "The Constitution is not a partisan document." Thanks for that, Sen. Dodd.n/t

[rodeodance]

28. 'protecting the American people"--that Repug said it 20x in 5 mins!!

[Eurobabe]

27. Saxby Chambliss bloviating about how govt. needs private sector

help to protect Americans against terror. :puke:

[A wise Man]

33. Anyone that listens to Saxby

needs their head examined.

[kelligesq]

30. K & R - free phone numbers

unbelievable. Our own dems are against enforcing the law and the Constitution
because they know they are in safe districts for re-election.

When they do not do what is right for America and American citizens, when they do not follow the law and the constitution, Dems should let them knkow we will not support them for re-election or vote for them. As a matter of fact we will
look for another dem in their district to run and replace them. That should get their attention.

I think these are the toll free numbers to Congress -

1 800 862 5530
828-0498
614-2803
340-9281
338-1015
220-0044

ask for the Senator Congressman you want to speak to


1) demanding impeachment,especially Jerry Nadler, Pelosi, Conyers, anyone on
Judiciary Committee.

2) demanding no immunity for telcoms that violated the law which protects
Americans right to privacy . we demand ceasing of illegal wiretapping of
AMericans

[kelligesq]

39. OOPS - change - THIS TOLL FREE ONE WORKS

Toll Free Number


[phone]

we pay for that number and now they want us to pay legal fees and awards for
ATT wrong doing.

Sorry about the first number, guess they shut it off but I just checked this number and it works.

[rodeodance]

31. THIS EXPLAINS PRETTY WELL WHAT IS GOING ON NOW:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/005130.php

Reid Challenges GOP to Filibuster Anti-Immunity Provision
By Paul Kiel - January 24, 2008, 11:50AM


So here is where the FISA debate, which kicked off in earnest this morning, stands.

The first vote today will be on the Senate Judiciary Committee's version of the surveillance legislation, which contains no retroactive immunity for the telecoms who collaborated with the administration's warrantless wiretapping program. That will be at two o'clock this afternoon. There is no agreement that such a vote meet a 60-vote threshold, so when the Republicans move to block that bill, the vote will be held on a 50-vote threshold. If they win that vote, then the bill will revert back to the Senate intelligence committee's bill, which has a retroactive immunity provision.

After that will come a number of amendments, among them Sens. Chris Dodd's (D-CT) and Russ Feingold's (D-WI), which contains a provision to strip the immunity from the bill. Reid says that he supports such a bill. And he said today that Republicans will have to actually filibuster if they want to stop any of the amendments from getting a simple majority vote:

"As I have said before, if there are Senators who don't like these amendments and think they should be subjected to 60-vote thresholds, these Senators are going to have to engage in an old-fashioned filibuster. These amendments are by and large germane, and I believe they should be adopted if a majority of the Senate supports them."

You can Reid's entire statement here:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/reid_statemen...

When Reid said something similar yesterday, a number of people interpreted it as in reference to Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) who has said that he would filibuster any bill that contained retroactive immunity. Now it seems as if that remark was meant for everyone.

As for what happens next, I think we'll just have to wait and see. We'll keep you updated.

[rodeodance]

32. k--and give it a REC

[rodeodance]

35. Specter Suggests that the Federal Government be substituted for the Telecoms

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Specter Suggests that the Federal Government be substituted for the Telecoms
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2756577#2756577
2756577, Specter Suggests that the Federal Government be substituted for the Telecoms
Posted by ThomWV on Thu Jan-24-08 11:09 AM

In whatever lawsuit might come out of the illegal surveillance they have assisted with Specter suggests that the Federal Government be substituted as the defendant. That way the suits go forward. What do you think?

No immunity.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

37. Isn't Specter being clever! He sure knows how to be legally creative, huh!

He knows damn well his assertion leads to ABSOLUTELY NO ACCOUNTABILITY by any 'person' for breaking the damn law!!!

He can go to hell! :mad:

[G_Leo_Criley]

40. thanks rodeodance !

To tell you the truth, I doubt that I can ever support Harry Reid again. He's invested a lot of time and effort into being against Chris Dodd on the FISA bill, so frankly I'm distrustful of this change on his part.

I'm making calls and saying that I hope Sen. so and so will support Sen. Dodd and his campaign to remove any sort of immunity for telecomms from any FISA Bill. NO IMMUNITY FOR TELECOMMS -- retroactive or otherwise!


glc